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The omission of tom parsons from the 2017 all star team has to be the most appalling decision in all star history. Diff the best midfielder on show this year. mayomanic (Mayo) - Posts: 85 - 03/11/2017 23:10:13 2060313 Link
Agree. Parsons was sacrificed so O'Shea could be included. Its a numbers game. Cillian was never going to get one this year. Midfield should be Parsons/McCarthy with Colm Cavanagh in the half forward line at the expense of O'Shea. Jason Doherty extremely unlucky also, for me he was the unsung hero for Mayo in the forward line. It was guys like him, Boyle and Keegan that dragged Mayo through when the pressure was on. hamstring (Limerick) - Posts: 318 - 03/11/2017 23:58:59 2060319 Link
Poor decision, but no worse than John Galvin's omission in 2010 or 2011. football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 04/11/2017 00:28:12 2060327 Link
Should be there instead of Cavanagh for sure, hard done by. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 04/11/2017 00:32:12 2060328 Link
Would have given parsons and Doherty all stars myself but how Clarke got in ahead of cluxton is a disgrace. Delighted for Andy Moran fully deserved Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 04/11/2017 01:45:55 2060338 Link
Both had good years. For me Cavanagh was excellent though and just pips Parsons although an argument can be made either way. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 04/11/2017 01:55:15 2060339 Link
All the players that received All Stars are fantastic players. Well done to all of the team. It is a just reward for their dedication and effort. I just wonder do the committee look at any other games besides the All Ireland semi final and final though? Carlow won three championship games this year for the first time in 60 odd years. Brendan Murphy was outstanding in his games - against Division 1 sides like Dublin and Monaghan. Seán Powter was phenomenal against Mayo and Kerry when all around him mostly just gave up. As a 19 year old on his debut he was the leader. This has been acknowledged with Ireland call up and young football of year nomination. Louth have gotten successive promotions. They play in Division 2 next year. Any of their players deserve a nomination for that? In the 1980s, the team was for more inclusive. Hurlers from Westmeath and Laois were included despite never winning provincial championships or playing in Division 1. They were recognised though for their outstanding performances. 13 players from All Ireland finalists (12 in hurling) shows this is very much past tense. Tom Parsons may feel aggrieved. Given that he played well in the three games that the team gets selected, he has a point. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 04/11/2017 08:03:41 2060361 Link
First world problems.... MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 04/11/2017 08:17:43 2060362 Link
Replying To mayomanic: "The omission of tom parsons from the 2017 all star team has to be the most appalling decision in all star history. Diff the best midfielder on show this year." Definitely should have made the team , was outstanding for Mayo all season imo, Colm Cavanagh to get in ahead of him was crazy. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 04/11/2017 09:17:16 2060366 Link
The problem in saying one lads deserves over another inevitably means the lad who gets in gets slated , I agree Parsons is very unlucky he's a player fans can relate to, not flash wears heart on sleeve and you know your getting the max out of him , Id have had him in but it doesn't mean Cavanagh was poor far from it I think he was excellent Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/11/2017 09:24:01 2060367 Link
Would have Kananagh all day myself, Parsons had a very good year though. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/11/2017 09:30:18 2060370 Link
Replying To football first: "Poor decision, but no worse than John Galvin's omission in 2010 or 2011." Ya, Galvin's omission in 2010 is the worst ever decision. He was sacrificed for Paddy Keenan of Louth who got a sympathy award as a result of referee Sludden's appalling mistake in the Leinster final that robbed him of a medal. Galvin dominated virtually every opponent for 7 or 8 years but never got a single award. Same scenario here with Parsons being sacrificed to accommodate AOS as both couldn't be picked, its a numbers game.!!! hamstring (Limerick) - Posts: 318 - 04/11/2017 10:32:59 2060382 Link
Really think tom Parsons deserved an all star even ahead of AOS or Cavanaugh but every year we see silly choices made dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1043 - 04/11/2017 11:24:19 2060394 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Both had good years. For me Cavanagh was excellent though and just pips Parsons although an argument can be made either way." You're too objective, mesamis; remember Parsons lost out to a Tyrone man, so that automatically is a wrong decision. Tyrone is a horrible team of very bad players; none of them should get anything. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 04/11/2017 11:37:13 2060401 Link
By common consent, two excellent players. Either could have got it. In that context, chat about a decision for either Parsons or Cavanagh as being 'outrageous' etc is illogical. Not that logic features strongly recommended in the annual post all stars whinge-fest. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 04/11/2017 11:50:28 2060403 Link
All stars based on 3 games. Simple as that. Same in hurling. To be honest no true reflection of the value a player is to a team for the whole year irrespective of how his team does in terms of success/non success. Parsons was never going to get one once Mayo had 4 in before midfield was chosen and with O'Shea to be accommodated. There have been many poor omissions over the years. Parsons won't be the last. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 04/11/2017 12:06:23 2060411 Link
Replying To mayomanic: "The omission of tom parsons from the 2017 all star team has to be the most appalling decision in all star history. Diff the best midfielder on show this year." Agree totally. If midfielders can be accomodated in the half forward line the same should apply for half back. James McCarthy should have been put into the half back line at the expense of either Cian O'Sullivan or Jack McCaffrey - neither of those two put the year in that Parsons did. And in the final he was the best midfielder on the day. People will argue that would leave Mayo on same number as Dublin but latter won the All-Ireland and therefore should have more. Not necessarily (and from memory Meath had more than Down in 2001 - now there was a team with an attack if you look at some footage) as I'd contend that their win was spread over a greater number of players and therefore the individual effort lessened, all other things equal, i.e. Kevin Mc, Connolly, Flynn etc., and therefore the Mayo first 15 from whom their All Stars are taken played more game time and had less assistance from the bench than Dublin. So how McCaffrey (brilliant, top tier 1 footballer that he is) got one ahead of Parsons beggars belief. It reflects a contention that if you had to start and end games with the same 15, or even only allow 3 subs, would it have been worth a point or two points more to Mayo? Would Dublin's first 15, played the entire game, have beaten Mayo's? Not sure. Bench plays a bigger role for Dublin than any other county. Parsons should have had got an award last night. DonegalAtlantic (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 04/11/2017 14:40:42 2060429 Link
Replying To DonegalAtlantic: "Agree totally. If midfielders can be accomodated in the half forward line the same should apply for half back. James McCarthy should have been put into the half back line at the expense of either Cian O'Sullivan or Jack McCaffrey - neither of those two put the year in that Parsons did. And in the final he was the best midfielder on the day. People will argue that would leave Mayo on same number as Dublin but latter won the All-Ireland and therefore should have more. Not necessarily (and from memory Meath had more than Down in 2001 - now there was a team with an attack if you look at some footage) as I'd contend that their win was spread over a greater number of players and therefore the individual effort lessened, all other things equal, i.e. Kevin Mc, Connolly, Flynn etc., and therefore the Mayo first 15 from whom their All Stars are taken played more game time and had less assistance from the bench than Dublin. So how McCaffrey (brilliant, top tier 1 footballer that he is) got one ahead of Parsons beggars belief. It reflects a contention that if you had to start and end games with the same 15, or even only allow 3 subs, would it have been worth a point or two points more to Mayo? Would Dublin's first 15, played the entire game, have beaten Mayo's? Not sure. Bench plays a bigger role for Dublin than any other county. Parsons should have had got an award last night." All good points as well you could also say Mayo were beaten twice, didn't win their province and drew most of their games. That's not a slight on Mayo, but they haven't won a trophy in two seasons, yet cumulatively have won player of the year two years in a row and have well over double figures in all stars. I'd feel hard done by if I was from Tyrone or especially Kerry who won the league and their province. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/11/2017 16:21:57 2060446 Link
Replying To hamstring: "Agree. Parsons was sacrificed so O'Shea could be included. Its a numbers game. Cillian was never going to get one this year. Midfield should be Parsons/McCarthy with Colm Cavanagh in the half forward line at the expense of O'Shea. Jason Doherty extremely unlucky also, for me he was the unsung hero for Mayo in the forward line. It was guys like him, Boyle and Keegan that dragged Mayo through when the pressure was on." Firstly, it would've been even more laughable if Cavanagh got 1 in the half forward line. He was a midfielder at times and a sweeper the rest of the time. Had an excellent year. I would have picked Parsons tho. Now that that's said. . . What the hell have people been watching all year if they don't think Aidan Oshea deserved an all star. He was excellent! He and cillian oconnor get an awful raw deal from some quarters and it's baffling! Put the personal dislike aside and judge on performances. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 04/11/2017 19:20:00 2060467 Link
Parsons unlucky but Cavanagh had a great year. McCarty also top class. You might disagree with decision but it was hardly robbery. AOS dragged Mayo through early stages of qualifiers when they were muck. He also had a good semi final replay and final. Deserves award but couldn't argue if he was left out due to standard of competition. Think both keepers are a tad overrated this season. Cluxton didn't do anything wrong but nothing eye-catching either bar kick outs. Thought Clarke was got and miss with kick outs. Didn't pay enough attention to other keepers so I can't say they didn't deserve it. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1825 - 04/11/2017 19:31:46 2060473 Link