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Stephen Cluxton.

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Cluxton deserved it IMO. I would have Parsons over Cavanagh and McCann for McCaffrey. Overall, I think the team was well picked, better than most years.

NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 124 - 03/11/2017 21:14:48    2060273

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "No All Star for Stephen Cluxton has to be the worst decision in the history of the awards, the man didn't put a foot wrong all season from the very first league game to the All Ireland final with unbelievable saves great catches and kick outs he's been the best by a mile , we played Mayo in the league this year Clarke was brutal his kick outs were a joke , yes he's a good keeper but when his team needed him most this year he kicks the ball over the side line, Cluxton has been
Robbed really bad call. Well done to Andy Moran it would never happen if it was the other way round but to be fair he had a great year."
Give it a rest clondalkin, you were at the same oul whinging a few years back about ROC.

It doesn't matter to 99% of the population & I'm sure Cluxton couldn't care less either. He has more than enough awards to keep him happy & he doesn't strike me as the sort who would be too bothered one way or the other.

You should take a leaf out of his book.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 03/11/2017 21:16:55    2060275

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Replying To Whammo86:  "I'd have plumped for Cluxton alright.

Clarke did have another good season.

I think Cluxton gets more heavily criticised when a few things go wrong for him. Last year v Kerry his 5 minute spell before half time was treated very harshly. I think he was penalised this year for the first half against Mayo where you struggled a bit more on your own kick out. He still had a good game though and made a huge save in the second half."
He didn't struggle Mayo pushed up so he'd no one free so he kicked it out 50/50 to midfield where Mayo destroyed us for the whole of the first half.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/11/2017 21:24:01    2060282

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Got a couple he shouldn't have in past years.

Different isn't necessarily better.

Clarke deserves it as he did last year. The best in the country.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 03/11/2017 21:25:42    2060284

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Congratulations to the all stars and the players and young players of the year I think it's hard to argue against any of the players picked in fairness.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 03/11/2017 21:33:47    2060285

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Give it a rest clondalkin, you were at the same oul whinging a few years back about ROC.

It doesn't matter to 99% of the population & I'm sure Cluxton couldn't care less either. He has more than enough awards to keep him happy & he doesn't strike me as the sort who would be too bothered one way or the other.

You should take a leaf out of his book."
Ha you told me to give the 5 in a row crazy posts a rest well I've bad news my friend the 5 in a row is on so will you please give it a rest.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/11/2017 21:35:42    2060287

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To be fair they could give it to Cluxton every year, he already has five and it would just get embarrassing.

Look it's a pony show and a big night out for the sponsors. I was reasonably hoping as few Dublin players won as possible, the glitz, hype and razzmatazz isn't our thing. Con summed it up for me, couldn't have had any less interest in it.

The funny one in my opinion was Aidan O Shea ahead of Ciran Kilkenny, you can't really take it seriously with that kind of stuff.

Also no Lee Keegan.

Congrats to Andy Moran, he had a great year, great to see the Mayo lads get the cap tipped at them.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/11/2017 21:46:59    2060288

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Got a couple he shouldn't have in past years.

Different isn't necessarily better.

Clarke deserves it as he did last year. The best in the country."
So good he was dropped twice last year but hey whatever you say.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/11/2017 21:49:07    2060289

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "That's a tough one alright. Team wins All Ireland v Player of the Year. Perhaps a hint there?"
No its not a tough one. James mccadthy v andy moran??

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 03/11/2017 21:52:15    2060292

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Replying To TheUsername:  "To be fair they could give it to Cluxton every year, he already has five and it would just get embarrassing.

Look it's a pony show and a big night out for the sponsors. I was reasonably hoping as few Dublin players won as possible, the glitz, hype and razzmatazz isn't our thing. Con summed it up for me, couldn't have had any less interest in it.

The funny one in my opinion was Aidan O Shea ahead of Ciran Kilkenny, you can't really take it seriously with that kind of stuff.

Also no Lee Keegan.

Congrats to Andy Moran, he had a great year, great to see the Mayo lads get the cap tipped at them."
Riddle me this! Mayo win zilch are one point down to Kerry in the drawn game with 73 mins played in drawn semifinal Kerry are not beaten by Dublin in league win Munster title and league Mayo get 6 All Stars Kerry get 1. ???? I have a
Ways had difficulty with the way the All Stars are selected it hinges on the All Ireland final and was there a better young footballer than David Clifford I suppose Mayo would trade all the statues for one Celtic Cross what's another year!

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 752 - 03/11/2017 22:11:04    2060295

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "So good he was dropped twice last year but hey whatever you say."
So good he's won the last 2 all stars. But hey, whatever you say.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 03/11/2017 22:12:08    2060296

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theres always controversy over a few positions every year. parsons and cluxton were the hard luck guys this year .but im sure a lot of people thought clarke and cavanagh would be close to getting one..and the opening poster asked "was it the worst all star ommision ever" not by a long shot.that was the year brian whelehan got man of the match in every offaly match including the final,got every award up to the all star awards night including hurler of the year..then he wasnt awarded an all star.they changed the rules on how they are picked after that i think?

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 03/11/2017 22:26:42    2060298

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Replying To Brianmac78:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "That's a tough one alright. Team wins All Ireland v Player of the Year. Perhaps a hint there?"
No its not a tough one. James mccadthy v andy moran??"
going by your logic Conor McHugh deserves POTY more than Andy Moran because he got an all-ireland medal. laughable.

NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 124 - 03/11/2017 22:32:20    2060301

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Replying To 37sowhat:  "Riddle me this! Mayo win zilch are one point down to Kerry in the drawn game with 73 mins played in drawn semifinal Kerry are not beaten by Dublin in league win Munster title and league Mayo get 6 All Stars Kerry get 1. ???? I have a
Ways had difficulty with the way the All Stars are selected it hinges on the All Ireland final and was there a better young footballer than David Clifford I suppose Mayo would trade all the statues for one Celtic Cross what's another year!"
To be honest mate I would struggle to put any Kerry player ahead of one of the Mayo ones picked, who would have added and subtracted? I take your point on Mayo winning nothing and actually we're beaten in the championship, purists would say they shouldn't have been in the final. That's not my opinion though.

As fine a player as young Cliffard seems to be mate, Young Con won three All Ireland medals this year and he wasn't dancing around the edges he was in the vanguard of all three. Young David's time will come I am sure, but he's playing at three levels lower then Con (one at U21). It's not yet known if young David can be another Con.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/11/2017 22:38:35    2060303

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "No All Star for Stephen Cluxton has to be the worst decision in the history of the awards, the man didn't put a foot wrong all season from the very first league game to the All Ireland final with unbelievable saves great catches and kick outs he's been the best by a mile , we played Mayo in the league this year Clarke was brutal his kick outs were a joke , yes he's a good keeper but when his team needed him most this year he kicks the ball over the side line, Cluxton has been
Robbed really bad call. Well done to Andy Moran it would never happen if it was the other way round but to be fair he had a great year."
Classic over the top reaction. I think it's very strange he has not won since 2013 seeing how dominant Dublin are and it's widely accepted his kick outs are a huge reason for this. However, I think if you look at the season in an unbiased way, you'd have to say Clarke was the stand out keeper. Maybe because he had more to do granted.

Somebody else pointing out how many all Ireland's they have is a bit silly. It's about individual performances, otherwise you may as well just put the whole winning team up.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 03/11/2017 22:50:44    2060306

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The whole thing is utter tripe! It should reflect the best players in each position, we have forwards as fullbacks etc etc We have none scoring forwards as all stars, goalies that get dropped and make howlers! And on and on goes this circus every year, 13 spots reserved for All ireland finalists if an all star is to mean anything they have to do away with the quota system and it should be based on all county in all positions.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 03/11/2017 22:52:30    2060307

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "No problem the rest is fair enough , actually Tom Parsons should be in ahead of Cavanagh.

The Cluxton one is the worst call ever."
Tom Parsons should be in midfield with McCarthy, with Cavanagh in the half forward line instead of O'Shea.
What O'Shea done to merit an All-Star is mind-boggling, again.

hamstring (Limerick) - Posts: 318 - 03/11/2017 22:55:48    2060310

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I think Clarke fully merits his award. However, I feel that if the award had gone to Cluxton then Parsons would have got one also. The champions always get more awards than the beaten finalists so numbers count

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 03/11/2017 23:31:46    2060315

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Replying To TheUsername:  "To be honest mate I would struggle to put any Kerry player ahead of one of the Mayo ones picked, who would have added and subtracted? I take your point on Mayo winning nothing and actually we're beaten in the championship, purists would say they shouldn't have been in the final. That's not my opinion though.

As fine a player as young Cliffard seems to be mate, Young Con won three All Ireland medals this year and he wasn't dancing around the edges he was in the vanguard of all three. Young David's time will come I am sure, but he's playing at three levels lower then Con (one at U21). It's not yet known if young David can be another Con."
Where was 'Con' 68 mins of final? Donnacha Walsh, a forward not renowned for proficiency in the scoring stakes, scored 6 pts against Tyrone!!so for me Cons big game was devalued by the poverty of this present Tyrone bunch I saw them in Killarney in the league they were pitiful Ulster football is weak 6 mediocre teams and 3 who don't enter calculations not even Brolly could make a case for the province just look at the Derry minors who won the Ulster minor title.

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 752 - 03/11/2017 23:40:00    2060317

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Replying To hamstring:  "Tom Parsons should be in midfield with McCarthy, with Cavanagh in the half forward line instead of O'Shea.
What O'Shea done to merit an All-Star is mind-boggling, again."
Didn't watch many games in 2017 then?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 04/11/2017 00:00:06    2060320

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