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Why have a go at Parsons. Cavanagh won the All star. He was the only Tyrone player who showed up v dublin so that's how he won't it. He played sweeper all year but won an all star at midfield. It was more of a Tyrone sympathy vote. Would you like ketchup for that that chip on shoulder. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 05/11/2017 10:52:06 2060545 Link 0 |
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The post was about a specific area of the All stars. The most interesting aspect- debating who got what and arguing who should have got what. Irrelevant how many Dublin fans posted on any topic. Sorry but using the 'little more humility' thing should be confined to cliche status. Look at JG. Says very little after the success but yet is branded for not saying enough. He overdone it on the humility thing it seems.
poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 05/11/2017 12:22:47 2060558 Link 0 |
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The Allstar team has just turned into an acknowledgement of the All ireland finalists and to a much lesser extent the semi-finalists. Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 05/11/2017 14:47:58 2060586 Link 0 |
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Read more than one of two posts before making sweeping generalizations, I didn't congratulate any Dub as I don't see this topic as the normal parochial bullshi7 debate , its about the best players and as a GAA fan that's how I've approached recent topics , others may well be taking the same approach
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/11/2017 16:21:31 2060605 Link 0 |
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Perhaps the all star selection should just enforce positions more ,who would you rather in midfield on your team parsons or Kavanagh? As a midfielder parsons is better. In a free defensive role Kavanagh excelled and was very useful just the way Cian o Sullivan was a few years ago but we all remember he was overlooked once even though his sweeping was integral to Dublin. They overlooked him but not Kavanagh. Consistency in position selection would help this. And as a half forward mc gloughlin Doherty Kilkenny were all better than Aidan o sea that said he was still very important for mayos run but is he a top six forward this year? probably not royalcounty1 (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 05/11/2017 16:42:31 2060616 Link 1 |
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He didnt catch 1 ball in final until seamie o shea went off so was he outstanding i think not as for cluxton clarke was a better goalie over the year i also think jack mccaffery was lucky to get one as wad colm boyle i think keegan was ahead of both of them
mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 240 - 05/11/2017 21:22:25 2060661 Link 1 |
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I thought Boyle and McLoughlin were the players who contributed most to Mayo's cause this year. I would agree with you about McCarthy, don't know how he could have been shortlisted for POTY.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 05/11/2017 22:53:39 2060679 Link 0 |
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So catching the ball has to be quantified as a skill now, fair enough.Imporant to note he caught the ball at the business end of the final. Also had the small matter of knocking over two very fine points as he/Dublin turned the final around. His all round game is excellent and has been excellent for several years now, including this one. An MVP in GAA terms if there was such a recognition.
poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 06/11/2017 11:38:27 2060742 Link 1 |
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Woud have to question anyone who says that James Mc shouldn't even have been considered for POTY. Are you seriously offering an opinion that you don't think he's that good a player?
poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 06/11/2017 11:40:18 2060744 Link 2 |
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I wouldn't worry about it. Most of the people on here didn't play the game past U12 I'd say. Personally I said he was player of the year after the Q final and his performances actually got better after that. Some people cant see past their dislike for certain counties
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 06/11/2017 14:24:25 2060783 Link 1 |
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You're right. I don't taking opinions to heart, just genuinelly surprised that anyone who watched the championship this year could not see the massive contribution from McCarthy. At club level, he's been equally impressive. It is nothing against Andy Moran's fine performances but McCarthy drove his team on when it mattered. A key reason why Dublin are so hard to beat and the sort of player Managers love to have in their team. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 06/11/2017 16:09:05 2060817 Link 1 |
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In an all Ireland final that was decided by a single point again! I don't see why the dub posts are so put out. Some of the stuff on social media (disgraceful, serial losers and sympathy) is really low for GAA. Everyone going into the final were saying that Dublin would win because they had a stronger panel of players and that some of the subs were as good as what was going to be playing. In terms of Mayo this fact meant that our 15 were going to have to outplay the dubs 15 and there subs as well. This came to pass when you seen Dublin reaching for the bench at half time! So why do Dublin supporters feel that individually they are miles ahead of the Mayo players. Better yes, and that was proved with the win and the 7 vs 6 selection of All Stars. After winning an All Ireland it seems very bitter. Two teams separated by a single point for two All Ireland finals in a row and Dublin win 7 and Mayo win 6 all stars I don't see what all fuss is about. There are discussions around players every year (Cluxton, Parsons) buts that's all it is not sympathy or disgraceful. For all the players that received awards congratulations to them!!!
As_it_is (Mayo) - Posts: 6 - 06/11/2017 16:13:08 2060820 Link 1 |
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The comment is not on his ability as a player but on his performances. As the Mayo poster pointed out, he was outplayed for most of the final but had a strong finish after O'Shea tired and was withdrawn.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 06/11/2017 22:51:01 2060891 Link 0 |
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He wasn't playing in midfield for most of the final whilst Mayo were dominant in that sector. He went to half back when McCaffrey was taken off injured in the first few minutes. Mayo's dominance of the midfield area began to wane when McCarthy was moved back there after half time. It's amazing what people see and don't see from games imo. In anyways Andy Moran was fully deserving of POTY but to suggest McCarthy was dominated by the Mayo midfield is plainly wrong seeing as it was only in the second half of the game that he was directly up against them and in that second half he was, quite simply, the dominant figure in the match. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 07/11/2017 10:17:03 2060936 Link 5 |
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Poor with 0-3 from play against Clare (all in the first half when Mayo were under serious pressure) and 0-4 from play against Cork. Hardly class that as poor.
BuffyBoffy (Mayo) - Posts: 244 - 07/11/2017 11:39:27 2060959 Link 1 |
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TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 07/11/2017 15:30:28 2061013 Link 0 |
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Afraid so , long winter
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 07/11/2017 17:50:10 2061046 Link 0 |