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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Yeah, they needed 15 and everything to go right for them and the penalty miss/ save was the end of any comeback."
They battle as best they could be let's be honest the game was over after 15 mins just too much of a gulf between the two sides. Galway champs up next which won't be easy.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/12/2017 15:55:19    2064324

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Replying To tiobraid:  "The Galway hurling cship is the most intriguing competition in this country every year and one I always try keep an eye on. Mellows coasted through their group and Gort just snook through a real group of death. Gort are rightly hot favs tho in my opinion but I always wondered why mellow's never competed more often. Their big names are on the wrong side of 30 now so it's a big surprise albeit they possibly got the luck of the draw. Gort by 6"
Great win for Liam Mellows.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 03/12/2017 16:01:21    2064326

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6 different winners in the last 8 years in the Galway hurling championship now. For whatever reason Galway seem to perform better when there is no dominant club side in the county. It was the same in the 1980's when there was almost a different county champion year after year.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2208 - 03/12/2017 17:14:58    2064330

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "They battle as best they could be let's be honest the game was over after 15 mins just too much of a gulf between the two sides. Galway champs up next which won't be easy."
Of course it was.
Cuala were way better side and would have won anyway but the penalty would have made it a little more interesting.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 03/12/2017 18:26:04    2064337

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3 city teams and Slaughtneil make up the last 4 in the hurling. Probably a reflection on both the excellent work done promoting hurling in some bigger urban areas and the challenge facing rural clubs due to aging populations.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 03/12/2017 19:14:45    2064342

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Congrts to Cuala better team on the day.
The send off was for interfering with the helment acording to the ref.
Cuala are a class act but the Ref today had his head turn by the media around Cuala,
Cuala number 12 took the Helment off K-K wing back which the ref saw and let Cuala play on and get a score that was a few mins before the sending off.
He came back and warned the Cuala player Clear red. He let the Cuala backs hold the K-K lad down under the dropping ball while given Free for the same thing at the other end.
K-K players were been pull back, had the hurling held and at least 4 time had there helment removed and nothing done.
Cuala didn't need any help but by jesus they got it.
Cleere has a history with Offaly teams.
No problem Ref making mistake, its an impossable job but consistency is what i'm look for.

Best of luck to Cuala but if they get Ref like they did today, They win the fecking World Cup in the Summer not just the Club championship.

toxicity234 (Offaly) - Posts: 31 - 03/12/2017 19:21:28    2064343

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Replying To Marooned:  "6 different winners in the last 8 years in the Galway hurling championship now. For whatever reason Galway seem to perform better when there is no dominant club side in the county. It was the same in the 1980's when there was almost a different county champion year after year."
Fantastic for hurling in Galway city and for Mellows. I'd imagine they'd have been down as far as 10th in the betting at the start of the year?
It's some championship. Sarsfields came from no where a couple of years ago and Mellows similarly this year. There's probably not a more interesting and competitive championship in any sport in the country.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/12/2017 09:09:00    2064358

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Replying To toxicity234:  "Congrts to Cuala better team on the day.
The send off was for interfering with the helment acording to the ref.
Cuala are a class act but the Ref today had his head turn by the media around Cuala,
Cuala number 12 took the Helment off K-K wing back which the ref saw and let Cuala play on and get a score that was a few mins before the sending off.
He came back and warned the Cuala player Clear red. He let the Cuala backs hold the K-K lad down under the dropping ball while given Free for the same thing at the other end.
K-K players were been pull back, had the hurling held and at least 4 time had there helment removed and nothing done.
Cuala didn't need any help but by jesus they got it.
Cleere has a history with Offaly teams.
No problem Ref making mistake, its an impossable job but consistency is what i'm look for.

Best of luck to Cuala but if they get Ref like they did today, They win the fecking World Cup in the Summer not just the Club championship."
You got hammered by 14 points the game was over after 15 minutes and you come on here blaming the ref ha sweet Jesus. The ref had nothing to do with the hammering you's took just simply the way better team won.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 04/12/2017 10:36:56    2064364

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Fantastic for hurling in Galway city and for Mellows. I'd imagine they'd have been down as far as 10th in the betting at the start of the year?
It's some championship. Sarsfields came from no where a couple of years ago and Mellows similarly this year. There's probably not a more interesting and competitive championship in any sport in the country."
Yeah very even standard in Galway in recent years. You could probably make a case for 8 to 10 clubs that could win the county championship if they got on a bit of a run at the right time. Mellows themselves probably should have lost to Clarinbridge in the quarter-final stage. A few weeks later and they are champions. Small margins.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2208 - 04/12/2017 14:00:48    2064382

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Cuala are deservedly back to back Leinster champions and Kilcormac Killoughey can have no complaints after their disastrous start. The referee gave some contentious but he definitely made the right call in sending off Conor Mahon for a grab of the faceguard. Cuala are a serious team - they beat Dicksboro by 7, St Martin's by 11 and KK by 14 - a combined total of 32 points! KK were all over the shop and couldn't handle a much fitter and skilful Cuala team but I'm sure with some fresh blood they will be back competing for Leinster titles.

Fantastic win for Liam Mellows in Galway. Well done to them. They will really be up against it next February as will Slaughtneil I think.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 04/12/2017 14:12:01    2064383

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Replying To toxicity234:  "Congrts to Cuala better team on the day.
The send off was for interfering with the helment acording to the ref.
Cuala are a class act but the Ref today had his head turn by the media around Cuala,
Cuala number 12 took the Helment off K-K wing back which the ref saw and let Cuala play on and get a score that was a few mins before the sending off.
He came back and warned the Cuala player Clear red. He let the Cuala backs hold the K-K lad down under the dropping ball while given Free for the same thing at the other end.
K-K players were been pull back, had the hurling held and at least 4 time had there helment removed and nothing done.
Cuala didn't need any help but by jesus they got it.
Cleere has a history with Offaly teams.
No problem Ref making mistake, its an impossable job but consistency is what i'm look for.

Best of luck to Cuala but if they get Ref like they did today, They win the fecking World Cup in the Summer not just the Club championship."
The KK supporters seemed to be on the ref's back from early on but watching on TV it was very hard to see why. Most decisions seemed correct when seen on replays. He got a few calls wrong for both teams with a couple of soft frees to KK and to Cuala.

The sending off was as clear as day. He pulled the helmet as well as pulling across another player who was nowhere near the ball. It was a bizarre couple of things to do, it's exactly what you'd do if you decided that you wanted to get sent off.

When a team's 1-8 to no score down it seems fairly churlish to start blaming the referee.

Instead of blaming the ref maybe they shouldn't have left their slowest defender on Cuala's fastest and most dangerous forward. It's not as if Con O'Callaghan being quite good and fast came as a massive shock! Schoolboy stuff from KK I thought.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 04/12/2017 18:05:20    2064404

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Fantastic for hurling in Galway city and for Mellows. I'd imagine they'd have been down as far as 10th in the betting at the start of the year?
It's some championship. Sarsfields came from no where a couple of years ago and Mellows similarly this year. There's probably not a more interesting and competitive championship in any sport in the country."
Agreed 100%. I was pulling hard for Gort but fair play to the deserving winners. And Mellows won without John Lee and his brother. Amazing feat.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 04/12/2017 19:05:56    2064412

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Replying To Marooned:  "Yeah very even standard in Galway in recent years. You could probably make a case for 8 to 10 clubs that could win the county championship if they got on a bit of a run at the right time. Mellows themselves probably should have lost to Clarinbridge in the quarter-final stage. A few weeks later and they are champions. Small margins."
Very very true. A lot of draws/replays and 1 point wins and losses. Nothing between a lot of these teams. Even Gort were fairly fortunate to get the draw a few weeks ago. I thought Gort would take it in the second half when they made that run after halftime but fair play to Mellows for weathering the storm. Deserving champs.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 04/12/2017 19:10:38    2064413

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O'Callaghan looks to be quite the finisher with the small ball, its tough on our hurlers not being able to avail of his services, but I'd be more of a football man myself.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 04/12/2017 20:53:27    2064424

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "You got hammered by 14 points the game was over after 15 minutes and you come on here blaming the ref ha sweet Jesus. The ref had nothing to do with the hammering you's took just simply the way better team won."
Best team won without a doubt. But equally without a doubt the ref was a lot harder on the Offaly team.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 04/12/2017 22:44:28    2064436

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Replying To realdub:  "O'Callaghan looks to be quite the finisher with the small ball, its tough on our hurlers not being able to avail of his services, but I'd be more of a football man myself."
Still though it would be nice to see if he could help put Dublin over the top in hurling. The footballers don't need him as bad as the Hurlers do. Shame.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 04/12/2017 22:54:37    2064437

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Very very true. A lot of draws/replays and 1 point wins and losses. Nothing between a lot of these teams. Even Gort were fairly fortunate to get the draw a few weeks ago. I thought Gort would take it in the second half when they made that run after halftime but fair play to Mellows for weathering the storm. Deserving champs."
Agreed. A very well deserved title for Mellows. With this and Sarsfields' win a couple of years ago, there must be a good 10+ teams believing they can win the championship next year. That kind of competitiveness can only be good for Galway hurling. As someone else mentioned, we don't tend to do well when a small number of clubs are very dominant.
As good as it is to see Mellows win, I can't see them challenging Cuala too strongly. Their inexperience at that stage along with Cuala's quality will be too much. Barring any shocks in the semi finals, I'd expect Na Piarsaigh and Cuala to be a cracker.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2036 - 04/12/2017 23:30:45    2064439

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Very very true. A lot of draws/replays and 1 point wins and losses. Nothing between a lot of these teams. Even Gort were fairly fortunate to get the draw a few weeks ago. I thought Gort would take it in the second half when they made that run after halftime but fair play to Mellows for weathering the storm. Deserving champs."
Can anyone remember a county final winning team (same year) from the home of the All Ireland Champions with no county panellist?
Probably not a first but would be interesting to know if it happened before.
(Or even any county final winning team with no county panellist must be pretty rare)

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 05/12/2017 11:40:07    2064448

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Do Moorefield have anyone on the Kildare team?

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 05/12/2017 13:09:53    2064460

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Can anyone remember a county final winning team (same year) from the home of the All Ireland Champions with no county panellist?
Probably not a first but would be interesting to know if it happened before.
(Or even any county final winning team with no county panellist must be pretty rare)"
A county final winning team with no county panellist is certainly rare never mind a county final winning team from the All-Ireland champions with no county panellist! Not the same but in 2015 when Clara won the county title they had only one player in the Kilkenny All-Ireland starting fifteen in Shane Prendergast. He wouldn't have been near the team only for Jackie Tyrrell got injured in the Leinster final.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 05/12/2017 13:11:14    2064462

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