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Can't blame Paddy for stepping away, some of the stuff that gets shouted at him but so called Meath fans is crazy.... could well be Joe we start with, Burlingham and Hannigan options also, Johnny Lynch has an awful lot to learn before he is near ready, makes a lot of errors, and very costly ones at that.

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 03/11/2017 11:30:16    2060024

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POR's been a very good servant to us. Wish him nothing but the best, maybe see him back in a Meath jersey one day.

Who would be the forum's choice to replace him? You guys go to more clubs games, so you'd be better aware of who'd be best to take the jersey.

GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 03/11/2017 11:45:56    2060030

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Mickey Newman will be the next to step away and Harnan with big question marks over Keoghan and Donnacha Tobin.

Meathmaster (Meath) - Posts: 251 - 03/11/2017 12:15:23    2060038

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Can see at least some of the Ratoath players stepping away too.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 03/11/2017 12:38:42    2060056

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Lenihan probably frees and yeah Rory had a good day but didn't repeat it again ! Biggy is a step above Rory"
Lenihan got 5, 3 from play.

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 03/11/2017 13:01:18    2060065

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Can see at least some of the Ratoath players stepping away too."
A lot of players had it easy under O'Dowd perhaps they are not willing to put in what it takes

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 03/11/2017 13:05:20    2060068

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Can see at least some of the Ratoath players stepping away too."
A lot of players had it easy under O'Dowd perhaps they are not willing to put in what it takes

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 03/11/2017 13:13:21    2060071

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Can see at least some of the Ratoath players stepping away too."
What's going on? I mean the commitment required to be an inter county football didn't increase that much in 6 months did it!? If someone or something is causing many of our best players to quit that needs to be addressed, urgently. If Keoghan and Donnacha Tobin leave we'll be sure to get out of D2 straight down to D3.

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 03/11/2017 13:19:44    2060078

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Replying To ziggy320001:  "A lot of players had it easy under O'Dowd perhaps they are not willing to put in what it takes"
A ziggy would you cop on. Blame the previous manager, time to move on from that. Hopefully a few posters around here will follow the players lead and take a year out.

manof93 (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 03/11/2017 13:33:58    2060090

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Replying To ziggy320001:  "A lot of players had it easy under O'Dowd perhaps they are not willing to put in what it takes"
You could be right Ziggy, but if it was a less trusted manger other than McAntee they would be saying they will not play under him etc. I reckon a few cant stand the heat others just probably dont us winning anything anytime soon are not will to commit. POR, Ó Coileáin, Haran, Jones all gone its a massive amount of experience at one go.

bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 03/11/2017 13:54:47    2060097

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Wouldn't be too bothered and Por quitting. Too error prone in pressure situations and also can't be trusted not to lose the head and get sent off. A new goalkeeper was needed imo to try and progress to the next level and now with him gone the issue will be forced. Fair play to him for his effort and commitment over a number of years u can't fault that but I don't see it as a major loss."
If he won't be such a loss why don't you name his replacement then? Paddy is by far the best keeper in the county. Haven't seen too much of Hannigan but Burlingham hasn't been near as good as last year in my opinion.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 03/11/2017 14:00:14    2060098

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Replying To manof93:  "A ziggy would you cop on. Blame the previous manager, time to move on from that. Hopefully a few posters around here will follow the players lead and take a year out."
That's the spirit!

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 03/11/2017 14:02:03    2060101

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Replying To bobkarlgees:  "You could be right Ziggy, but if it was a less trusted manger other than McAntee they would be saying they will not play under him etc. I reckon a few cant stand the heat others just probably dont us winning anything anytime soon are not will to commit. POR, Ó Coileáin, Haran, Jones all gone its a massive amount of experience at one go."
In would say Andy has a harder line approach for sure and a more professional approach. Either you follow that or you leave the panel as simple as that.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 03/11/2017 14:03:53    2060102

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Replying To manof93:  "A ziggy would you cop on. Blame the previous manager, time to move on from that. Hopefully a few posters around here will follow the players lead and take a year out."
Andy has been a success wherever he has been and players often say he has a great approach that is very professional and a lot of hard work.
You think Meath will improve without hard work? Mick was a nice man but he had a softer approach and players got used to that.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 03/11/2017 14:08:53    2060107

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Replying To ziggy320001:  "A lot of players had it easy under O'Dowd perhaps they are not willing to put in what it takes"
What a load of rubbish.
I assume the squad members in Kerry, Dublin, Mayo and the likes of Monaghan and Tipp are willing to "do what it takes". Yet they don't have, what appears to be, a mass exodus from their squads.
You're either calling a number of the Meath squad weak willed, if so shame on you, or you'll have to admit that there is something or someone that's making Meath players reevaluate the intercounty careers, en masse. We should find out who or what that is and get rid of it.
POR and Haran aside the rest of the absentees are very rationally explained. Others are unsubstantiated rumors, let's hope they true out to be false.

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 03/11/2017 14:24:40    2060113

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Replying To begining:  "Heard it on the grapevine that there are to be more departures than Harnon, O'Coileann and Jones. Possibly another 3 from last years starting team. Anyone else hear this?"
4 of the 6 departures confirmed.

Strange McEntee didn't announce Harnon and O'Rourke in his interview midweek. Must have been trying to convince them to stay.

Two more players (starters) to be announced in coming weeks. Watch this space

begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 03/11/2017 14:25:03    2060114

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Well I know that one player in particular has played a ridiculous amount over the last number of years with almost no break whatsoever.
Honestly, I'd be happy if they focus on the club. Doesn't help that there's quite a vocal (hopefully) minority that seem to blame Ratoath for Meath's current woes. And I wish that was just online but I've heard similar things at games.
At the moment, it's a huge commitment for young players and old with very little reward. All they tend to get is abuse from fans. So I don't blame any players who want to take time out to live their lives.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 03/11/2017 14:31:48    2060125

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Replying To pauk123:  "What's going on? I mean the commitment required to be an inter county football didn't increase that much in 6 months did it!? If someone or something is causing many of our best players to quit that needs to be addressed, urgently. If Keoghan and Donnacha Tobin leave we'll be sure to get out of D2 straight down to D3."
Not having a go at this poster or their post but of the players who haven't reported back many have reasons for not doing so.

Jones and O'Coilean are off to serve time doing internships etc - they are ensuring their future and work lives. Unfortunately staying home to play GAA is not going to pay their for their future. We can't hold that agaonst them. It happened to Dublin last year when Mannion, McCaffrey and O'Carroll all went at the same time for study/ work reasons to spend time abroad. Dublin got on with it and so should we.

Keoghan - i believe or read somewhere is doing likewise to complete his masters abroad. as above Gaa won't pay his future bills.

Harnan - has done headed off for the last two winters, again for study/ work experience reasons. He should be back for the later rounds of the league and championship. If Andy is ok with that then who are we to complain.

Tobin - haven't heard he's going but tbh he was a bit part player last year. His role coming in and closing the game out actually suited him in my opinion. Maybe Amdy told him that's his role and DT said not interested.

Paddy - has been there for 10 years and seems to have just had enough. Good luck to him

Anyone else leaving won't be a major diappointment.

The commitment required is massive and maybe Andy has laid it on the line to the panel and said this is whats expected if we want to be a top team and players aren't willing to give it. I can understand their point of view on it. Players are now retiring in their late 20's from nigh on exhaustion and burnout. Given our current position players possibly felt i'm not giving that effort for no chance of success and that's their choice. I'd prefer to not have people who want to half ass it pulling on a Meath Jersey.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 03/11/2017 14:49:24    2060137

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Well I know that one player in particular has played a ridiculous amount over the last number of years with almost no break whatsoever.
Honestly, I'd be happy if they focus on the club. Doesn't help that there's quite a vocal (hopefully) minority that seem to blame Ratoath for Meath's current woes. And I wish that was just online but I've heard similar things at games.
At the moment, it's a huge commitment for young players and old with very little reward. All they tend to get is abuse from fans. So I don't blame any players who want to take time out to live their lives."
They have been much maligned, as was PO'R and as the old saying goes you only miss something when it's gone. There's a bit of history with that here, I remember Liam Hayes being tore to shreds on many occasions by supporters back in the 80's but who wouldn't say he was a legend now? Paddy made mistakes and made me pull my own hair out at times but he certainly did not deserve, nor does any player, the type of abuse he got for example in the Donegal game. These guys have put savage effort in for their county, we press buttons on keypads, there is no comparison

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 03/11/2017 14:52:27    2060139

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Brilliant and great article from Fergal Lynch in the Meath Chronicle about players leaving and not committing.
He suggests that players should be delighted to play for Meath,I suggest people here read it..

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 03/11/2017 15:00:00    2060142

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