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Replying To ratlag: "While I respect your opinion on this, I have to disagree. The reason being (and I mean this in the most respectful way possible) but teams like Blackhall, Rathkenny etc know that realisticlly they will not win a Senior Championship at the moment and will do enough to survive which means the drive from the players and club as a whole is not the same as Simonstown, Summerhill, Ratoath, Dunboyne etc who all have realistic chances of winning each year. This mentality can become infectious to younger players coming through and have a hugely negative impact on the club. However by reducing to 16 teams and these clubs dropping to intermediate, all of a sudden a team that had very little chance of competeing at their current level now have a chance to win a Championship medal, and when a club is competeing on a continuous basis the it spreads right down through the entire club, the best example being my own club Ratoath, in the last 6-7 years since winning the Junior title and Minor the year previous they have been competing in Division 1 at most underage grades and winning their fair share as well. Yes the increase in population does help but doesn't guarantee success, the underage has fed off the belief and drive from the Adult section." Truth is that in any one year only about 8 teams in the senior grade have any hope of success. The same applies to the county set ups where realistically only about 8 teams (or less) have any notions of potentially winning an all Ireland. We still want our county team to compete in it as it brings great excitement to the county and honour to the players. Reducing the number of teams to 16 in the senior club championship makes no difference to the situation. Last year Skyrne finished their championship with one point and would have been relegated if the proposal to reduce was in play for then. This year they are leading the league and have a chance of going all the way in the championship. I don't agree that it is a fact that players and supporters from Rathkenny Blackhall etc would prefer to be intermediate. They live in hope like the rest of us that perhaps this will be our year to progress. Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 20/04/2018 12:34:45 2094099 Link
"I have seen my players, collectively, once in the last 20 days" Comment from Hurling manager Nick Fitzgerald I note the way he and Andy call the players as "Their players" all players are club players first and foremost. The club players may make themselves available for county but they are Club players first Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 20/04/2018 19:02:50 2094141 Link
Replying To Analyst: ""I have seen my players, collectively, once in the last 20 days" Comment from Hurling manager Nick Fitzgerald I note the way he and Andy call the players as "Their players" all players are club players first and foremost. The club players may make themselves available for county but they are Club players first" When they play for Meath they are the management players. I don't think you can have a pop at the hurling manager for saying that. He views them as his players cause they will play for him at county level. I'd say it's stretching a argument to have a go at the him, hurling is very much in minority in county (I myself am not a fan) but they do their best royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/04/2018 19:39:41 2094146 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "When they play for Meath they are the management players. I don't think you can have a pop at the hurling manager for saying that. He views them as his players cause they will play for him at county level. I'd say it's stretching a argument to have a go at the him, hurling is very much in minority in county (I myself am not a fan) but they do their best" Point is this is club month and the players should be at home with their clubs who they belong to Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 20/04/2018 21:51:50 2094154 Link
If anyone has ever heard of "The Mandela Effect" the Meath SFC is a great example. It's amazing the number of times I've read of people remembering the football being great at club and county level when we played 4 groups of 4. It's a myth though. Some kind soul has taken the time to input 70 years worth of Meath SFC results and tables into wikipedia if you look. 2 things are worth noting looking at the last 40 years: 1. We've rarely had a settled championship. The format and number of teams changed pretty much year to year with anything from 13 to 20 teams in 2, 3 or 4 groups. 2. The famous 4 groups of 4 has occurred once. From 1998 till 2001 we had 4 groups alright, but some groups had 5 and some had 4. Eventually they got down to 44 for one year in 2002....and the following year moved to 2 groups of 8, which became 3 uneven groups about 5 years later, and 3 groups of 6 about 5 years after that. CastleBravo (Meath)* - Posts: 1643 - 21/04/2018 14:00:49 2094214 Link
Padraig McKeever has left the panel now too. What is going on? Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 22/04/2018 21:54:55 2094399 Link
Replying To Maestro: "Padraig McKeever has left the panel now too. What is going on?" ssshhh lad. Everything is going great don't you know. Sure he was never any good anyway/He couldn't hack the pressure and commitment/Better players on the panel etc etc Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 23/04/2018 14:02:34 2094504 Link
Replying To Crinigan: "ssshhh lad. Everything is going great don't you know. Sure he was never any good anyway/He couldn't hack the pressure and commitment/Better players on the panel etc etc" He has not left the panel, nor has Tobin longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 23/04/2018 15:53:59 2094556 Link
Replying To longroadback: "He has not left the panel, nor has Tobin" It was reported in the chronicle that Tobin, Conlon, Rooney, Dardis and Toner have all left TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 230 - 23/04/2018 16:26:45 2094565 Link
Replying To TakeYourPoints6: "It was reported in the chronicle that Tobin, Conlon, Rooney, Dardis and Toner have all left" ok.. not what is being said in Simonstown but if the chronicle have it must be something in it...worrying longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 325 - 23/04/2018 17:02:04 2094572 Link
Replying To longroadback: "He has not left the panel, nor has Tobin" They are both definitely gone from the panel Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 23/04/2018 17:57:06 2094582 Link
Replying To Maestro: "They are both definitely gone from the panel" Not so sure about that. Mckeever in particular asked not to take part in the training but I have ben lead to believe that he is still on panel. Time will tell. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/04/2018 19:19:33 2094594 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Not so sure about that. Mckeever in particular asked not to take part in the training but I have ben lead to believe that he is still on panel. Time will tell." The news should come out soon enough.... Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 23/04/2018 19:58:01 2094599 Link
Replying To Maestro: "The news should come out soon enough...." True. Sooner the better. Get rid of all speculation. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/04/2018 20:20:06 2094605 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "True. Sooner the better. Get rid of all speculation." yes they must be favourites now but with that comes extra pressure buy they certainly are good enough. Ratoath are also one to watch and have built up experience . I think Mahoneys will do it this year as it will be last year for a lot of their players Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 23/04/2018 21:38:33 2094625 Link
McKeever, Tobin and Conlon are all 100% gone. Meathmaster (Meath) - Posts: 251 - 23/04/2018 22:35:42 2094641 Link
Replying To Analyst: ""I have seen my players, collectively, once in the last 20 days" Comment from Hurling manager Nick Fitzgerald I note the way he and Andy call the players as "Their players" all players are club players first and foremost. The club players may make themselves available for county but they are Club players first" I have seen my players collectively once in the last 20 days is not true,ask the clubs how many times they had not got the players for training in April. gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 24/04/2018 12:25:09 2094723 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "When they play for Meath they are the management players. I don't think you can have a pop at the hurling manager for saying that. He views them as his players cause they will play for him at county level. I'd say it's stretching a argument to have a go at the him, hurling is very much in minority in county (I myself am not a fan) but they do their best" Royaldunne your not a hurling fan ???? yet you continually post about hurling on these forum pages, ??????????????? gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 24/04/2018 12:27:16 2094725 Link
Replying To Analyst: "Point is this is club month and the players should be at home with their clubs who they belong to" April Club only month , this is not governed by any GAA rule , Its a suggestion from Croke Park and was a way of keeping the CPA and club players quite when the super 8s were announced. More Lip service from Croke Park and the clubs and CPA fell for it as usual. gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 24/04/2018 12:30:30 2094727 Link
Replying To Meathmaster: "McKeever, Tobin and Conlon are all 100% gone." so has Rooney, Dardis and Toner , they have all left" Anybody know how many players have walked since January ??? gardentree (Meath) - Posts: 194 - 24/04/2018 12:34:08 2094729 Link