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One of the news reports said Newman is only out due to injury, so presumably he'll be available when fit?
GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 20/12/2017 18:09:20
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Replying To Barney123: "I'm actually for McEntee, think he is the best thing to happen to Meath football in 10+ years but you do have to look at the amount of players leaving.
Paddy O'Rourke, it wasn't worded that he retired, he quit the panel. No bs reasons or anything just he quit the panel.
Not sure whether D.Tobin was dropped or left himself but I did hear there was a disagreement.
I can accept Joe did retire but it was a strange time to announce it in my opinion, he started back training but then decided to retire.
I heard Keogan was going away but it had nothing to do with his "studies", not sure when or if he will be back.
James Toher has decided to go back to hurling.
R'O Coilean, Ronan Jones and Harnan all seem to be away studying which wouldn't be McEntee's fault.
That is 7 players (didn't include joe) who would have gotten a good few games for Meath next year and I don't think there is the depth in MEath to replace them.
I still think we will do better than a lot of people are saying but surely that amount of players leaving in a year is some type of record?" Only one thing.
KEOGHAN IS ON THE PANEL OF 41
He is gone NOWHERE.
Now can people stop saying he is?
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Replying To royaldunne: "Only one thing.
KEOGHAN IS ON THE PANEL OF 41
He is gone NOWHERE.
Now can people stop saying he is?" People so desperate for their misinformation to be true to fit with their negative narrative. Pathetic.
GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 20/12/2017 22:02:37
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Replying To GlasgowRoyal: "People so desperate for their misinformation to be true to fit with their negative narrative. Pathetic." Getting sick of it to be honest.
When you post a message on a thread and say let's support the lads who are on the panel and you get a thumbs down, well what does that say about some supporters?
ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 20/12/2017 22:22:13
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Replying To ziggy320001: "Getting sick of it to be honest.
When you post a message on a thread and say let's support the lads who are on the panel and you get a thumbs down, well what does that say about some supporters?" Don't get me wrong, there's a few big misses from the panel, but some on here are already trying to blame Andy McEntee for this, when in most cases, it simply seems like commitment is an issue for some and academia/career enhancement is one for others. That's really nobody's fault, it's just life. Hopefully some are young enough that we might see them again at some point, but for now, as a Meath fan, I'm right behind those whom Andy chose for this year's panel. And there is some real talent on it in my opinion.
GlasgowRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 20/12/2017 23:11:35
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Challenge game tomorrow evening vs Tipp in Simonstown I'm told.
Meathgaa5 (Meath) - Posts: 339 - 21/12/2017 05:56:35
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Replying To Meathgaa5: "Challenge game tomorrow evening vs Tipp in Simonstown I'm told." Time?
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 21/12/2017 11:18:12
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I went to a lot of Meath games over the years. And especially over the past 2 or 3 years. I always look forward to this time of year with new players getting a chance a fresh new year and you never know whats going to happen etc. I secretly hope for the or a miracle. But this year I have to lowest expectation since I can member. With the mass exodus of players and given experience gone like Haran and exiting new players like ROC and Jones gone. It doesn't bode well at all. For me maintaining Div 2 status and if dont make show out of ourselves in in the championship will be enough for me. And sure it will give new players a chance but what if in 3 or 4 years time some new players coming thought find they can't commit to the ridiculous hard commitment that is required for inter county level at the moment and getting very little rewarded for it especially if your playing for Meath at the moment. I do not blame players for saying the cant commit. I do not blame managers for requiring a high level of commitment from players . I do blame the GAA inter county model is unsustainable at the moment. Too much commitment is required. There is about 4 teams that have realistic chance of wining the ALL-Ireland this year and that's been the case for past 4 or five years. Below is interesting teams that contested the All-Ireland final since 1990. In two blocks of fourteen. Currently fewer and fewer teams are getting to even contest the final. But the GAA seem happy enough with whats going.
2017-2004 ( contested by 7 teams over 14 year period )
Kerry 9
Mayo 6
Dublin 5
Cork 3
Tyrone 2
Donegal 2
Down 1
2003-1990 ( contested by 12 teams over 14 year period )
Meath 5
Galway 3
Kerry 3
Cork 3
Dublin 3
Armargh 2
Tyrone 2
Mayo 2
Down 2
Donegal 1
Derry 1
Kildare 1
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 21/12/2017 12:16:15
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Replying To bobkarlgees: "I went to a lot of Meath games over the years. And especially over the past 2 or 3 years. I always look forward to this time of year with new players getting a chance a fresh new year and you never know whats going to happen etc. I secretly hope for the or a miracle. But this year I have to lowest expectation since I can member. With the mass exodus of players and given experience gone like Haran and exiting new players like ROC and Jones gone. It doesn't bode well at all. For me maintaining Div 2 status and if dont make show out of ourselves in in the championship will be enough for me. And sure it will give new players a chance but what if in 3 or 4 years time some new players coming thought find they can't commit to the ridiculous hard commitment that is required for inter county level at the moment and getting very little rewarded for it especially if your playing for Meath at the moment. I do not blame players for saying the cant commit. I do not blame managers for requiring a high level of commitment from players . I do blame the GAA inter county model is unsustainable at the moment. Too much commitment is required. There is about 4 teams that have realistic chance of wining the ALL-Ireland this year and that's been the case for past 4 or five years. Below is interesting teams that contested the All-Ireland final since 1990. In two blocks of fourteen. Currently fewer and fewer teams are getting to even contest the final. But the GAA seem happy enough with whats going.
2017-2004 ( contested by 7 teams over 14 year period )
Kerry 9
Mayo 6
Dublin 5
Cork 3
Tyrone 2
Donegal 2
Down 1
2003-1990 ( contested by 12 teams over 14 year period )
Meath 5
Galway 3
Kerry 3
Cork 3
Dublin 3
Armargh 2
Tyrone 2
Mayo 2
Down 2
Donegal 1
Derry 1
Kildare 1" Interesting way of looking at it! And I think you are right to a degree - Dublin, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone are realistically the teams that you would expect to contest the final. Cork, Galway and Monaghan could surprise but most likely only if there is a shock result or two! After that I don't think there are any other contenders!
Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 473 - 21/12/2017 12:24:23
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Replying To bobkarlgees: "I went to a lot of Meath games over the years. And especially over the past 2 or 3 years. I always look forward to this time of year with new players getting a chance a fresh new year and you never know whats going to happen etc. I secretly hope for the or a miracle. But this year I have to lowest expectation since I can member. With the mass exodus of players and given experience gone like Haran and exiting new players like ROC and Jones gone. It doesn't bode well at all. For me maintaining Div 2 status and if dont make show out of ourselves in in the championship will be enough for me. And sure it will give new players a chance but what if in 3 or 4 years time some new players coming thought find they can't commit to the ridiculous hard commitment that is required for inter county level at the moment and getting very little rewarded for it especially if your playing for Meath at the moment. I do not blame players for saying the cant commit. I do not blame managers for requiring a high level of commitment from players . I do blame the GAA inter county model is unsustainable at the moment. Too much commitment is required. There is about 4 teams that have realistic chance of wining the ALL-Ireland this year and that's been the case for past 4 or five years. Below is interesting teams that contested the All-Ireland final since 1990. In two blocks of fourteen. Currently fewer and fewer teams are getting to even contest the final. But the GAA seem happy enough with whats going.
2017-2004 ( contested by 7 teams over 14 year period )
Kerry 9
Mayo 6
Dublin 5
Cork 3
Tyrone 2
Donegal 2
Down 1
2003-1990 ( contested by 12 teams over 14 year period )
Meath 5
Galway 3
Kerry 3
Cork 3
Dublin 3
Armargh 2
Tyrone 2
Mayo 2
Down 2
Donegal 1
Derry 1
Kildare 1" This also ties in with the introduction of the back door as well (which was 2001). And with the introduction of the super 8s I think you could see less teams making it through to the final.
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Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 21/12/2017 14:09:25
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Replying To Analyst: "No there will still be 2 teams in the final, have no doubt about that" Haha - that is funny!!
Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 473 - 21/12/2017 14:36:01
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Joe Sheridan Interview-Seneschalstown Legend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6xGZcAFDb4
grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 21/12/2017 19:17:15
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Replying To ziggy320001: "Getting sick of it to be honest.
When you post a message on a thread and say let's support the lads who are on the panel and you get a thumbs down, well what does that say about some supporters?" Excellent post
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 22/12/2017 20:17:48
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I know its a bit early for new year resolutions , im only too well aware of the uphill task ahead of our senior squad, that there seems to be a lack of strength especially around the middle but maybe we should concentrate on those that are in squad and not undermine them by essentially saying they wouldn't be there if so and so were available. I fully understand that this is a forum and everyone is entitled to their views but maybe at least keep the individual criticism to a minimum. Its a huge honour to play for your county but its also a massive commitment and no one goes out to give any less than 100%!!! I think/hope that we are heading in the right direction and the squad is very young but anyone you talk to, says that we have talanted youngsters and they must be given time. In relation to Andy mcentee, I don't know him personally, but honestly ,who here believes that that he is not the best man for the job in hand. Best of luck to them for the year ahead and happy Christmas to all
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Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 23/12/2017 12:59:58
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Lads not too much drinking over Christmas , us supporters need to be fit for January. :)
ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 23/12/2017 15:44:25
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Replying To Footnote: "I know its a bit early for new year resolutions , im only too well aware of the uphill task ahead of our senior squad, that there seems to be a lack of strength especially around the middle but maybe we should concentrate on those that are in squad and not undermine them by essentially saying they wouldn't be there if so and so were available. I fully understand that this is a forum and everyone is entitled to their views but maybe at least keep the individual criticism to a minimum. Its a huge honour to play for your county but its also a massive commitment and no one goes out to give any less than 100%!!! I think/hope that we are heading in the right direction and the squad is very young but anyone you talk to, says that we have talanted youngsters and they must be given time. In relation to Andy mcentee, I don't know him personally, but honestly ,who here believes that that he is not the best man for the job in hand. Best of luck to them for the year ahead and happy Christmas to all" Total agreement
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Replying To Footnote: "I know its a bit early for new year resolutions , im only too well aware of the uphill task ahead of our senior squad, that there seems to be a lack of strength especially around the middle but maybe we should concentrate on those that are in squad and not undermine them by essentially saying they wouldn't be there if so and so were available. I fully understand that this is a forum and everyone is entitled to their views but maybe at least keep the individual criticism to a minimum. Its a huge honour to play for your county but its also a massive commitment and no one goes out to give any less than 100%!!! I think/hope that we are heading in the right direction and the squad is very young but anyone you talk to, says that we have talanted youngsters and they must be given time. In relation to Andy mcentee, I don't know him personally, but honestly ,who here believes that that he is not the best man for the job in hand. Best of luck to them for the year ahead and happy Christmas to all" Absolutely spot on. To the guys who chose not to join the panel this year I thank them for their efforts in a Meath jersey and hope maybe to see some of them don it again in the future.
Happy Christmas to each and every Royal, hope you have a blessed festive period.
GR
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Ahh I'm stuffed with turkey. And one week to go till driving to Carlow. Life is good. Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/12/2017 18:05:37
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