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Going on that, the ref had a big part to play in this, through his action/inaction at the wrong time. The mainstream printed media certainly won't buy that cos it won't suit their outlook!
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 22/10/2017 18:41:19 2057017 Link 0 |
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A lot of referees are becoming fuss pots of the highest order in recent years ,this fellow would send off 4 at a under 10 blitz by the sounds of things, this referee should never again be allowed ref a game OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 669 - 22/10/2017 19:02:13 2057027 Link 0 |
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That's a well rehearsed line that I keep hearing trotted out but ask yourself if the club game means more to gaa people as you call us then why does the all ireland club finals played as a double header of both football and hurling only get 30-35 thousand people going every year? Yet the so called club people up and down the country demand tickets for the inter county all ireland finals but don't look for the very thing the all ireland club final tickets? Yet they could sell 250thousand tickets if they had the capacity for thw inter county finals.Club and county championships should be both played throughout the summer and Autumn and that would solve the whole club problem of being run off too late in the year it's the archaic club members who don't vote to play the club championships regardless of county player's availability. Nobody is saying they cannot play but holding championships up to suit possibly one player off two clubs is ridiculous.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/10/2017 19:46:52 2057037 Link 1 |
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agree....this is exactly WHY the inter county scene needs to be compressed.better time of year,better pitches,the game is easier to play. the clubs involved deserve better than to be playing this time of year. fair play to kilbride,it is great to know they actually play a match,i drive past their pitch a couple of times a week with my job and i have never ever seen a match being played! incidentally,were any of the 10 sent off 'that kind of player'? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/10/2017 09:34:28 2057136 Link 0 |
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Its the county managers who won't let that happen why should any club especially smaller ones have to play without their star man/men who don't forget were nurtured and coached by the club from a young age until deemed good enough for the county I agree the club and county championships should run side by side but its the county set up that won't allow it
runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 23/10/2017 09:44:19 2057143 Link 1 |
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Replying To hill16no1man: "That's a well rehearsed line that I keep hearing trotted out but ask yourself if the club game means more to gaa people as you call us then why does the all ireland club finals played as a double header of both football and hurling only get 30-35 thousand people going every year? browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 23/10/2017 10:28:43 2057159 Link 0 |
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There played on our national day what perfect chance for people to go to the game's? Particularly these hard working club people who demand tickets for the inter county all Ireland's. surely they would rather go to the club finals over inter county if they are that way inclined??? hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/10/2017 14:20:21 2057240 Link 0 |
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Its not thw county managers stopping clubs championships being played its clubs won't play the game's without the availability of a county player and block the county boards from running them until they are available. It's not fair on the 99% of club players who have to wait till possibly one guy returns from involvement with county set up. if team a is missing a county player and team b is missing a countu player then tough play the game regardless. If team a is missing a non county player due to family,work or a death or occasion the game goes ahead regardless and they are the ones who have been held up all summer. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/10/2017 14:26:24 2057242 Link 0 |
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If it wasn't for the club scene there would not be a county scene if the clubs are forced to play without their players why would any club bother investing time coaching players to that standard or maybe they wont release their player to play county the club scene is far from rubbish as you put it its the life and soul of the organisation the GAA does not begin and end in Croke Park
runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 23/10/2017 17:11:16 2057302 Link 0 |
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Club games do not attract the crowds the inter-county games do, as a Na Fianna man the only way I would go to an all ireland with Vinnies in it would be to support the opposition, its a completely different dynamic. And to be very clear we are talking about the Senior club scene being held up by Inter-county championship, some of the teams in Dublin have so many inter-county blow ins its no wonder they cannot play.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 23/10/2017 18:49:33 2057320 Link 0 |
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Nobody is saying do away with the club game so why so defensive, the point is inter county is streets ahead in terms of ability and entertainment, reducing it makes no sense. Nobody is saying county players can't play club championship just that fixtures are set out at the start of the year and they go ahead on them dates regardless, that way its fairer on the 100% of club players as everybody knows well in advance not just running a competition to suit the 1% who are already playing at a much better level as it is and are getting games at a high level while the guys who's only outlet to play is the club team are left waiting for them to come back. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/10/2017 20:34:21 2057346 Link 0 |
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Exactly the point inter county is far more entertaining and the interest is far greater yet we are reducing it to play lower standard games at club level that nobody cares about unless it's there actual club. There's no demand for it like there is inter county. It's the county team holding up the clubs championship it's the clubs themselves not choosing to play without certain players available that is holding it up, county boards have tried to fix games but because of ridiculous rules denying games to be played unless a countu player is available stops these games proceeding. how is that fair on the rest of that clubs panel who miss out, then the game could be fixed for a date when they have something they cannot get out of but the game goes ahead regardless how is that fair? It's simple but it's the clubs themselves blocking it if you just made a master fixture list for the year in each county and played the game's on them dates regardless then it's fair to all players not just suiting one or two. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/10/2017 20:41:49 2057348 Link 0 |
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I never said anything about doing away with club scene or reducing the county condense it by all means and allow the club championships run along side it with the county players playing club also that's the fairest way for all to have a defined season and don't cod yourself that the county is miles better there were about 4 or 5 decent games in the whole season its so lopsided its ridiculous and a lot games are poorly attended and at least club football is graded properly to keep it competitive
runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 23/10/2017 21:28:59 2057371 Link 0 |
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expecting club players to play the biggest games of their season without their county players is amongst the stupidest things iv ever seen posted on this thread..then i looked at who posted it...someone who has an agenda and an axe to grind against club football and those involved in it alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 23/10/2017 23:06:12 2057407 Link 3 |
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You could also have pointed to the paltry attendances at most county finals.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 23/10/2017 23:25:05 2057411 Link 0 |
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The ref was probably correct. He played by the rules. every single match in Gaelic football is littered with fouls that don't get punished yet the ref gets blamed if he doesn't let the game flow or is whistle-happy. I wasn't at this game and I do realise that every foul should not be a yellow but it is time that we all started playing by the rules as laid down. Instead of trying to come up with new rules to improve the game why not implement the existing ones. Players being man-handled when in possession by a posse of players and then being blown-up for over-carrying is so frustrating yet the rules state that you must attempt to play the ball not the man. Either play Aussie rules or play GAA rules . s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 24/10/2017 10:16:16 2057451 Link 0 |
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Such a ridiculous post you can't see the wood from the trees my friend. I play club football and hurling currently that's how little you actually observe about me. Nobody is saying if your a countu player you cannot play club championship, every year I'm sick of people whinging about the club championship and what to do to please everyone well that's never going to happen if you have two teams for certain players throughout one season, it's like how dual players are now a thing of the past at inter county level could you imagine if they held up inter county games because a certain county had a guy playing hurling the weekend before so the match can't take place, how ridiculous that would be, that's exactly what's happening with the club championship, it's been run to suit county players instead of being fair on all club players, put a fixture list in place and stick to it regardless its the fairest way for all clubs and players alike. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/10/2017 20:24:47 2057686 Link 0 |
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if your sick of it then make a legit argument to counter it or ignore it as suggesting clubs should play without county players is hilarious....its up to the gaa to make things work for everyone involved
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/10/2017 23:45:50 2057737 Link 0 |
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Yeah I think there's a way to give club players more meaningful regular games whilst also making sure that teams with a large number of county players are still able to be competitive. Take the Dublin championship it's going to senior A of 16 teams. Have every team play every other team once. Those 15 rounds are scheduled from the start of the year and are played throughout the summer. During the season a round gets designated as being either with or without county players depending on the county teams progress. So at the end of the season we could have say 11 non county player rounds and 4 county player rounds. Rank teams based on those results separately so that you get 2 tables. One based on 11 games the other based on 4 with county players. Top 4 in each table qualify for the championship playoffs. If a team is top 4 in both tables they get a bye into the semifinals. The teams who were top 4 in 1 of the tables play off for the remaining semifinal spots. If there's a season where the county team is knocked out early more rounds get played with county players. The competition isn't held up for county players but clubs still get maximum use of them and a team that's struggling without their big players still can have a shot at the championship when they get them back. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4208 - 25/10/2017 05:59:04 2057748 Link 0 |
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I just did put a fixture list in place at the start of the year and stick to it regardless of players availability be that county players or non county players, you seen to feel it's ok to postpone games ot a countu player is missing but it's ok to go ahead with games ot a non county player is missing.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 25/10/2017 12:32:38 2057832 Link 0 |