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Fitzmaurice TIL 2020

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Don't get it , can't understand this contract , I mean he has unbelievable underage teams since '14 and has basically brought none of them through, how can he get this contract? He got a lucky All Ireland in '14 and should of known that but he's basically stood by a very lucky team instead of bringing through the ridiculous amount of talent he has. Crazy decision Jack O Conor or someone in the know with the underage teams should be the manager. Look at our success under Gavin he knew all these underage players having been involved with them Fitzmaurice is still playing Donaghy , O Sullivan and Gooch if he stayed ,madness.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - 19/10/2017 11:43:29    2056182

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0 championship wins against Dublin during his tenure.

Gets an extension til 2020.

Happy days :)

waynoI (Dublin) - 19/10/2017 13:19:32    2056206

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Opinion is very divided on him but I am glad he is staying on personally. I would not want Jack back at Senior level, the game has moved on and I don't think he is the man for the Senior job any more, nor would he want it I would guess.

Fitzmaurice made a tactical mess of the Mayo replay this year, but in most games he has got most things right over the years. This is the poorest Kerry panel since the 90's and unbelievably he got an All Ireland out of them. If Dublin were not so exceptionally good we would arguably have at least another All Ireland as well.

On the underage teams, the best player from 14/15 by a country mile is now playing in the AFL, and the best of the rest were in training with the senior panel this year. They struggled physically in training and A vs B matches if reports are to be believed, we can hardly blame Fitzmaurice for that. A winter of S & C work should see some of them ready for the spring. I would expect several new faces next year, but I would not back us for an All Ireland until 2019/20 at the earliest. It all depends on how these guys take to Senior football.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - 19/10/2017 13:30:50    2056209

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Yerra the Dub's Blue Wave is drowning all before it and getting stronger every passing month - all we down here can hope for is that our little Kerry life-raft can ride out the Tsunami and reach dry land once again. In fairness we have a history of outlasting and out surviving our opponents, so hope springs eternal.

TheHermit (Kerry) - 19/10/2017 14:34:05    2056233

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Bonkers decision to give Fitzmaurice and extension he left an all ireland behind him against Dublin in 2015, He took off O'Donoghue and Geaney who both scored 3 points from play to leave on Colm Copper who was terrible. That day was enough to me to prove he wasn't ruthless enough for the kerry job.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - 19/10/2017 18:25:58    2056316

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Soon as I saw Galvin back in the fold I knew he was not a manager that would stand out as a heavyweight.
Contributed little or nothing to the panel on the field of play which is where it counts.
Enough said.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - 19/10/2017 19:33:11    2056328

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Soon as I saw Galvin back in the fold I knew he was not a manager that would stand out as a heavyweight.
Contributed little or nothing to the panel on the field of play which is where it counts.
Enough said."
Who didn't contribute Galvin or fitzmaurice?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - 19/10/2017 20:28:26    2056343

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Think he is a very good manager myself, the job he did on Dublin in the league final was a masterclass. Personally feel he underestimated Mayo this year, I think he's a bit odsessed with Dublin and if they had gotten that far I think Kerry would have done well, I'd say much of there prep went into A Dublin game. The game is a cruel mistress.

He has all the tools, resources, facilities and talent, let's see what he can do.

Best of luck to him.

TheUsername (Dublin) - 19/10/2017 21:14:00    2056357

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He's doing ok, he hasn't got the most talented Kerry team of all time and they're still formidable! I mean, who else is there?

realdub (Dublin) - 19/10/2017 22:07:02    2056386

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Bad for Kerry!!!

oakleafersir (Derry) - 19/10/2017 22:38:24    2056411

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Opinion is very divided on him but I am glad he is staying on personally. I would not want Jack back at Senior level, the game has moved on and I don't think he is the man for the Senior job any more, nor would he want it I would guess.

Fitzmaurice made a tactical mess of the Mayo replay this year, but in most games he has got most things right over the years. This is the poorest Kerry panel since the 90's and unbelievably he got an All Ireland out of them. If Dublin were not so exceptionally good we would arguably have at least another All Ireland as well.

On the underage teams, the best player from 14/15 by a country mile is now playing in the AFL, and the best of the rest were in training with the senior panel this year. They struggled physically in training and A vs B matches if reports are to be believed, we can hardly blame Fitzmaurice for that. A winter of S & C work should see some of them ready for the spring. I would expect several new faces next year, but I would not back us for an All Ireland until 2019/20 at the earliest. It all depends on how these guys take to Senior football."
I wasnt a tactical mess.
Kerry had too many on the field problems to fix within such a short time frame for the replay.
Mayo had less..

Vishred (Mayo) - 20/10/2017 00:36:48    2056429

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Yerra the Dub's Blue Wave is drowning all before it and getting stronger every passing month - all we down here can hope for is that our little Kerry life-raft can ride out the Tsunami and reach dry land once again. In fairness we have a history of outlasting and out surviving our opponents, so hope springs eternal."
You forgot to say "Yerra".

MesAmis (Dublin) - 20/10/2017 08:13:17    2056442

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Who didn't contribute Galvin or fitzmaurice?"
Galvin didn't do much to deserve to be brought back in once he retired.
I know EF and Galvin played together and he's related but a manager has to be able to make those tough calls.
Everyone in Kerry loves Galvin but I think that was more about what was good for P.Galvin than about Kerry.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - 20/10/2017 08:15:26    2056443

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Replying To Vishred:  "I wasnt a tactical mess.
Kerry had too many on the field problems to fix within such a short time frame for the replay.
Mayo had less.."
Yes and no. We set up very defensively for the second game and played in to Mayo's hands. Dropping JOD for a rookie defender was madness, as was putting Murphy in to an unfamiliar sweeper role, the new system didn't solve any of the problems we had the previous week because he didn't know what he was doing, and you also lost our best threat going forward from deep. As for leaving Enright marking Moran for two games when he was getting destroyed, nobody in Kerry seems to know what that was about, surely it was worth switching him to see if anybody else could manage him. The whole thing was a mess and we could and should have done better.

Not trying to take anything away from Mayo btw, I'm looking at things from a Kerry point of view, and with the benefit of hindsight that EF didn't have. There were mistakes made and I don't think anybody would deny that, not even Eamon.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - 20/10/2017 10:19:18    2056473

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Galvin didn't do much to deserve to be brought back in once he retired.
I know EF and Galvin played together and he's related but a manager has to be able to make those tough calls.
Everyone in Kerry loves Galvin but I think that was more about what was good for P.Galvin than about Kerry."
I 100% agree with you , I wasn't happy with that decision amongst many others plus Galvin hadn't even played with his club that year.

That was a massive boo boo.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - 20/10/2017 11:31:14    2056498

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I'm happy with the appointment. Think Fitz has done better than most with a limited enough Kerry team.
Regardless of how a minor team does you're lucky to get 1 or 2 that make a decent impact at senior level within a few year.
One that would have is out in Oz.
As for the others? They aren't exactly settling the world alight at club or colleges level.

On the topic of minors, the 2017 minor team is the best of the 4 even if you don't count Clifford in my opinion.
They have been overshadowed by him but are the team I'd expect the most from.
Would also like to see Peter Keane have a crack at senior mgmt next as he had these minor playing an excellent brand of football

Superglue (Kerry) - 20/10/2017 15:40:30    2056608

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Replying To Superglue:  "I'm happy with the appointment. Think Fitz has done better than most with a limited enough Kerry team.
Regardless of how a minor team does you're lucky to get 1 or 2 that make a decent impact at senior level within a few year.
One that would have is out in Oz.
As for the others? They aren't exactly settling the world alight at club or colleges level.

On the topic of minors, the 2017 minor team is the best of the 4 even if you don't count Clifford in my opinion.
They have been overshadowed by him but are the team I'd expect the most from.
Would also like to see Peter Keane have a crack at senior mgmt next as he had these minor playing an excellent brand of football"
I Agree 100% .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - 20/10/2017 18:38:11    2056673

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Fitzmaurice has stood by Jonny Buckley time after time and the fella is just not good enough, the South Kerry number 9 took him to the cleaners today it got so bad for Buckley that 3 times he wanted out and should of been black carded the roasting he took, also how is Daithi Casey not in the Kerry squad ? He runs amok every time I see him,gives Griffin a roasting today , what is Fitzmaurice not seeing with him? White at 7 is outstanding for Crokes again Fitzmaurice mustn't rate him? Kieran O Leary is not better than Barry John keane off the bench?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - 22/10/2017 17:53:21    2057003

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Fitzmaurice has stood by Jonny Buckley time after time and the fella is just not good enough, the South Kerry number 9 took him to the cleaners today it got so bad for Buckley that 3 times he wanted out and should of been black carded the roasting he took, also how is Daithi Casey not in the Kerry squad ? He runs amok every time I see him,gives Griffin a roasting today , what is Fitzmaurice not seeing with him? White at 7 is outstanding for Crokes again Fitzmaurice mustn't rate him? Kieran O Leary is not better than Barry John keane off the bench?"
Casey got numerous chances for Kerry over the years and never really impressed, but he seems to thrive in the crokes setup. White is outstanding but Eamon couldn't give him a run in the league last year because Crokes were still in the club championship until March and he joined the U21's then. He is very well regarded in the county and his time will come.

Buckley is our of form and will be looking over his shoulder next year for sure. He is playing in our weakest line at centre forward where we are short for now so I think his place in the panel is safe but I'm not sure I'd be starting him any more.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - 22/10/2017 20:23:00    2057057

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Casey got numerous chances for Kerry over the years and never really impressed, but he seems to thrive in the crokes setup. White is outstanding but Eamon couldn't give him a run in the league last year because Crokes were still in the club championship until March and he joined the U21's then. He is very well regarded in the county and his time will come.

Buckley is our of form and will be looking over his shoulder next year for sure. He is playing in our weakest line at centre forward where we are short for now so I think his place in the panel is safe but I'm not sure I'd be starting him any more."
He consistently struggles against the fast paced teams like Mayo and Dublin , I honestly can't believe he's a better forward option than the speedster that is Casey who is outstanding. Buckley has some lovely moments but not good enough for the top level, his direct opponent today absolutely roasted him the whole game.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - 22/10/2017 20:49:06    2057061

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