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Yeah sledging is why we won the All Ireland Gooch!

Listen I have always had a lot of time for Kerry, especially the team of the noughties.

They are a fantastic county with a great tradition and some very humble and likeable characters but Colm is really starting to let himself down since his retirement.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 02/10/2017 16:10:52    2052459

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/10/2017 17:18:51    2052494

Cooper has every right to give his views now he's retired IMO.

It's no secret he was given a very rough ride by some of the antics of Tyrone in those games, but as he's said himself Tyrone were willing to do whatever it took back then, don't necessarily see that as an insult to Tyrone.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 02/10/2017 17:27:48    2052499

Hard to go toe to toe with Kerry in an All-Ireland Final but that Tyrone team were well able for it.A serious Tyrone team and I'm sure Gooch has the height of respect for them.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2155 - 02/10/2017 19:33:39    2052542

I read the extract about him being dropped in 2009 and thought he came across as a bit self-important. His comments about Tyrone are a bit ungracious as well. I had a good view of him and Ricey in the second-half of the 2005 final and there wasn't too much chit-chat that I could see. Not saying it didn't happen at all, I'm sure it did, but I think he's exaggerating a bit. Whatever sells though.

MichaelO (Tyrone) - Posts: 820 - 02/10/2017 19:58:13    2052545

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 02/10/2017 20:49:24    2052560

If you take out all the fu*ks in his book there is very little in it.

It seems our gaa stars think by swearing alot it endeard them to the public.

Between his fu*ks and his testimonial he is fast losing his appeal to me anyway.

The tyrone team of the 00s had some great players. Canavan, cavanagh, gormley, o'neill, mcginley, ryan mc, jordan and mellon would easily make the kerry team

Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 594 - 02/10/2017 20:52:10    2052561

That Tyrone team could mix it anyway they wanted , any team that wins 3 all Irelands is a superb team . One thing he is right about though is the off the ball stuff that goes on , not just Tyrone but every county does it and umpires , linesmen ignore it

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 02/10/2017 21:15:12    2052566

Certain amount of bitterness there still? Bit of a sweeping generalisation to suggest that the entire Tyrone team of that era were professional sledgers. Ricey, maybe(!); but incorrect to say that the likes of Seán Cavanagh, Enda McGinley, Cormac McAnallen, Stevie O'Neill etc were sledgers; they weren't.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 02/10/2017 22:01:28    2052570

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 02/10/2017 22:10:50    2052572

Ya look the Tyrone team of the naughties got under all our skins down here big time but I have nothing but respect now for what they achieved winning 3 allirelands, I spent many a league game in Tyrone over the years and the Tyrone people are very gracious in defeat and in victory .

I had some great sessions with Tyrone people after games in Dublin too.

Look Colm is cashing in on his intercounty career now so I wouldn't take too much notice of what's in the book as drama sells.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/10/2017 22:38:43    2052578

Tyrone were a great side, didn't like some of the off the ball stuff from them mind but the present Dub side are doing the same stuff and no one seems to mind.


Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 02/10/2017 22:41:26    2052579

Is he really downing Tyrone for sledging, in the article it says 'Tyrone were pushing the boundaries that year - maybe overstepping them at times - and who could really blame them?'. These books if you don't get some specific details like this can be boring.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1338 - 02/10/2017 23:27:09    2052586

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/10/2017 23:44:48    2052589

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 03/10/2017 09:02:11    2052612

I find the extract where he said he didn't mind marking Ricey because he wasnt the slickest corner back around hilarious. I was them games Gooch and you didnt look to be enjoying yourself.

3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 294 - 03/10/2017 09:41:54    2052620

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 03/10/2017 10:16:29    2052627

I wouldn't take much notice of what Gooch has to say about Tyrone anymore to be honest.

He's all about cashing in now so it's hard to take anything he says as verbatim.

Some Hunger.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 03/10/2017 10:40:19    2052635

While score-settling in a book may give the writer a short-term satisfaction, in a small country, you'd be far better advised to follow the example of the diplomacy and charm of the likes of Mick O'Dwyer, Páidí Ó Sé, Darragh Ó Sé - those men knew / know how to handle themselves both on and off the pitch and are respected and well-liked all over the country. Even if you have a good reason to give out about someone, there's a time and a place to do it, and that's not years later in a book, but of course the publishers will always be putting pressure on to spice things up; the final version is as much down to the publisher as the player, in fairness.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 03/10/2017 10:52:58    2052640

I'm surprised that he didn't finish each chapter off with the line
"Needless to say, I had the last laugh"

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 03/10/2017 11:16:06    2052650