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Should not 23 Irish-based players be flying to Oz?

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I have always thought lads who have went to Oz should not be picked. I would far sooner see 3 lads from weaker counties who never have the chance to win anything individually or with there county but yet put in years of commitment to there teams picked.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 29/09/2017 07:27:27    2051561

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Its GAA v AFL so if those Irish lads that walked out on their clubs and counties want to play they should be togging out for Australia.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 29/09/2017 08:57:48    2051574

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Bring the best players available and try and win it.

Really looking forward to this. Would love to see it extended. The Railway cup is dead. This game could take its place. Munster v South Australia, Ulster v Western Australia.. Play it every couple of years."
Throw in an oval ball and bobs your uncle benny...super 14 v pro 14! :)

I find it rather boring now, much preferred it when they were allowed to also practise their boxing/wrestling skills

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 29/09/2017 10:46:47    2051613

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Replying To RoyalBadger:  "Its GAA v AFL so if those Irish lads that walked out on their clubs and counties want to play they should be togging out for Australia."
Walked out, ha , the cheek of them.
Who do they think they are going abroad to follow their dream and make a better living for themselves. Not like anyone from Ireland ever done that before. Should they be considered less Irish in that case ?

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 29/09/2017 11:06:18    2051620

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Walked out, ha , the cheek of them.
Who do they think they are going abroad to follow their dream and make a better living for themselves. Not like anyone from Ireland ever done that before. Should they be considered less Irish in that case ?"
Following a dream is a bit of a stretch to say the least, 99% of them would never have touched an Aussie rules ball until they want for a trial, call it what it is that they got offered a job and went for the money not the sport

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/09/2017 11:35:51    2051638

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On the original point of the thread I don't see a problem with the Irish afl players participating in the game, it's a mixture of Gaelic football and Aussie rules not just Gaelic football so they are available for selection, the only question you would ask is who they should be selected for considering the Irish team is ment to be a representive of team of the gaa and the Australian team a representive team of the afl and they currently are part of the afl organization not the gaa

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/09/2017 11:44:54    2051642

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Following a dream is a bit of a stretch to say the least, 99% of them would never have touched an Aussie rules ball until they want for a trial, call it what it is that they got offered a job and went for the money not the sport"
Yes they went for the money obviously as did many thousands.
The point being they are no less Irish.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 29/09/2017 11:58:38    2051644

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Not that bothered by the International Rules anymore but it is a GAA team versus an AFL team, so we should probably pick players in the GAA who are actively representing their clubs and counties.
Imagine if Joe Kernan picked a lad from Antrim, Leitrim or Wicklow instead of one of the three lads who now play in Australia? That would be a great message to send out and there are certainly players in those counties good enough.

49erroyal (Meath) - Posts: 65 - 29/09/2017 12:59:00    2051667

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Replying To keeper7:  "Rugby league? All modern sports have 'evolved' from more primitive beginnings."
rugby league is still a game of rugby a couple of different rule changes, not changing the shape of the ball or trying to make 2 games fit into 1. The suits seem to be the biggest cheerleaders for this series as it gets them a nice wee jolly to Australia every other year. Still would suit them better { pardon the pun } to try and sort the rule book and tie up the loop holes that are exploited every year and give a proper structure to club games and setting down laws to be followed by county boards around the country or putting in a meaningful championship for the weaker teams similar to hurling

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 29/09/2017 12:59:07    2051668

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Yes they went for the money obviously as did many thousands.
The point being they are no less Irish."
Never suggested anything to do with nationality I just commented on your suggestion they are following a dream which is clearly not the case.
if they were not being offered money would they go to Australia to play a new sport?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/09/2017 14:44:26    2051713

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Replying To ROS1:  "I have always thought lads who have went to Oz should not be picked. I would far sooner see 3 lads from weaker counties who never have the chance to win anything individually or with there county but yet put in years of commitment to there teams picked."
Why shouldn't they play they are Irish they all have links to the GAA every right to play.

I do think the oval ball should be tried for one game see how it goes

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 29/09/2017 16:20:09    2051742

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Never suggested anything to do with nationality I just commented on your suggestion they are following a dream which is clearly not the case.
if they were not being offered money would they go to Australia to play a new sport?"
My remark in relation to them following their dream is that of most amateur sportspeople in that they can earn a living and do well for themselves playing a sport. Yes the sport in question isn't Gaelic football but is closely related and one of the only professional options open to them.
I know plenty who would love the opportunity to do that and to be given the chance to live the life of a professional sportsman or woman so if you don't consider that a dream come true for those individuals then call it what you want but to me it would be worthy of the term.
There are thousands of young kids playing soccer and involved in athletics and other sports that can only dream of that opportunity .

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 29/09/2017 16:42:14    2051750

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "It's like this a if you go to a swingers party you'll have more joy if you bring the wife."
Go on Offside tell us a bit more

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 29/09/2017 19:51:47    2051792

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Why shouldn't they play they are Irish they all have links to the GAA every right to play.

I do think the oval ball should be tried for one game see how it goes"
The have left the gaa. That is a bit like saying why don't we pick Tommy bowe or Simon zebo.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 29/09/2017 21:15:42    2051805

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Why shouldn't they play they are Irish they all have links to the GAA every right to play.

I do think the oval ball should be tried for one game see how it goes"
I agree. Would love to see one test with oval ball.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 29/09/2017 21:20:39    2051806

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Replying To bennybunny:  "I agree. Would love to see one test with oval ball."
Would be interesting Benny but i imagine we'd be destroyed. I can see instinct kicking in and lads trying to solo it etc!

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 29/09/2017 21:44:22    2051813

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "On the original point of the thread I don't see a problem with the Irish afl players participating in the game, it's a mixture of Gaelic football and Aussie rules not just Gaelic football so they are available for selection, the only question you would ask is who they should be selected for considering the Irish team is ment to be a representive of team of the gaa and the Australian team a representive team of the afl and they currently are part of the afl organization not the gaa"
fair point..suppose its up to us if want to give ourselves best possible chance of winning

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 30/09/2017 00:59:52    2051846

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Its a mad thread, of course they should they are Irish men, as anyone who has ever been in that part of the world will tell you there are many GAA clubs in Australia and other ares of high immigration. They serve as a community and networking hub for those who moved away for whatever reason. In many ways the community aspect of these clubs is stronger then places Ireland and the spirit of the Gaa and its values are alive and well. Im sure many of these lads are involved despite also earning a living from the AFL. Just because they left one country for another doesn't mean the still dont contribute or cant be proud of their origins.

Some great work being done abroad on behalf of the GAA.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/09/2017 10:44:14    2051887

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Never suggested anything to do with nationality I just commented on your suggestion they are following a dream which is clearly not the case.
if they were not being offered money would they go to Australia to play a new sport?"
their dream might be to make it as a professional athlete. Most GAA players I know certainly didnt limit themselves to the one game growing up. Some people just thrive of competition and if they are offered the opportunity to get paid for it then it surely falls into that category.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 30/09/2017 12:18:15    2051905

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It should be 30 players from Ireland only, they deserve a nice brake in Oz. I have no interest in watching that sport, never have, I just want the players to have a nice experience.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1667 - 30/09/2017 15:20:56    2051933

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