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Replying To SallinsMan: "I have the utmost respect for Andy Moran and think he is a great footballer with a great attitude but the plaudits he is receiving this week for not retiring are way over the top. Here is a man at the top of his game, doing something that he loves, representing people who love him and would never say a bad thing about him. He is receiving the very best treatment and benefits, while doors are opening for him that may never have opened if he didn't play football for Mayo. He is probably about to win the Player of the Year!! Let me state he is fully deserving of all that he has received. For me the real heroes are the lads (and ladies) who are still plugging away at their clubs just so that their club can turn a team out. Or those intercounty footballers playing for counties that will never get to play football in August, not to mind September. The same lads that are getting dogs abuse for trying their best. A lot of the time, the actual benefits are few and far between. A lot of the time it's pure love of the game, local passion and / or a fear of retirement that is driving them. Nothing against Andy. I wish him the best for next year but all those showering him with plaudits might look closer to home and pay some due respect to the other heroes that make up the GAA." Your not wrong but this is an inter county website Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 27/09/2017 16:12:58 2051074 Link
I'm talking about the wider population, not necessarily the Hoganstand forum. SallinsMan (Kildare) - Posts: 77 - 27/09/2017 17:45:40 2051102 Link
Replying To panamasam: "In the form of his life why would he not be playing next year. These Mayo players have great resolve and resilience including Andy and give 2 fat fingers up to the certain sections of the biased media who have nothing better to do than write about players from certain counties in or around the age of 30 who should be retiring or retiring soon. From a Donegal perspective it was not just the media but management using the same excuse especially when it came to progressing through the qualifiers after not obtaining an Ulster championship. So here is hoping Andy plays just as well next year along with players of the same ilk in Colm Boyle and Keith Higgins who continue to show that age is no barometer. Manage these players correctly and no reason why they cannot play well into their mid thirties." I bet you'll hear it from these same pundits in the next year or two how Michael Murphy has a lot of miles on the clock and will be retiring soon, I think Mayo should bring a handful of younger players onboard next year, imagine the benefit they'd get having trained for a season or two along with the likes of Andy Moran? Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2746 - 27/09/2017 21:58:52 2051172 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "On OTB last night great interview interesting how he struggles big time with confidence the week of a big game and how his family are all Roscommon Gaels people but he's proud to play for Mayo being a Roscommon man." That's not exactly what he said. Andy said that his father's people played for Western Gaels and consider themselves from Roscommon, but that he's a Mayo man through and through. It's all on the last two minutes of the link below. http://www.offtheball.com/GAA/Andy-Moran:-Its-been-an-unusual-week-really- Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 27/09/2017 22:00:10 2051173 Link
If Andy Moran contributes half what he did this year his decision will be a success. It's up to other forwards to stand up and be counted and make up the balance. Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 27/09/2017 23:30:57 2051208 Link
Replying To SallinsMan: "I'm talking about the wider population, not necessarily the Hoganstand forum." Oh right. Just your are replying to a thread on here on the topic! TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7889 - 28/09/2017 06:59:33 2051222 Link
Replying To Laois76: "If Andy Moran contributes half what he did this year his decision will be a success. It's up to other forwards to stand up and be counted and make up the balance." Of the following Mayo forwards, I'm curious, who do you think didn't stand up and be counted this year. . Cillian O'Connor Jason Doherty Aidan O'Shea Kevin Mcloughlin Diarmuid O'Connor (when fully fit) cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 28/09/2017 09:21:07 2051239 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Of the following Mayo forwards, I'm curious, who do you think didn't stand up and be counted this year. . Cillian O'Connor Jason Doherty Aidan O'Shea Kevin Mcloughlin Diarmuid O'Connor (when fully fit)" Cillian O'Connor - While a heavy scorer yet again, I think by his own high standards he did miss free's he should be putting over. This was a theme all through the year. Jason Doherty - Though Jason had a great year. Also does so much work to win possession. Aidan O'Shea - Dragged Mayo through the qualifiers. He is not a forward though. Kevin Mcloughlin - Good year. Diarmuid O'Connor (when fully fit) - Something not right with Diarmuid. I hope he cant return to 2015 form for next year. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 28/09/2017 10:36:50 2051263 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Oh right. Just your are replying to a thread on here on the topic!" Do you disagree with my comments or are you only interested in being pedantic? SallinsMan (Kildare) - Posts: 77 - 28/09/2017 11:50:20 2051292 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Of the following Mayo forwards, I'm curious, who do you think didn't stand up and be counted this year. . Cillian O'Connor Jason Doherty Aidan O'Shea Kevin Mcloughlin Diarmuid O'Connor (when fully fit)" Jason Doherty is the only forward listed their that you could say improved on his status during this year. The bottom line is that on the day, the All Ireland was there to be won but Mayo missed too many of their chances. Their forwards did not perform well enough to win. You cannot say the same of their backs. SallinsMan (Kildare) - Posts: 77 - 28/09/2017 11:55:10 2051297 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Of the following Mayo forwards, I'm curious, who do you think didn't stand up and be counted this year. . Cillian O'Connor Jason Doherty Aidan O'Shea Kevin Mcloughlin Diarmuid O'Connor (when fully fit)" The 2 O'Connors could do a little more looking back on the season in general. Substitute forwards like Loftus, Drake, Conor O'Shea etc need to push harder for places and make more of an impact. A blind man can see that Mayo were overly reliant on Andy. If that's the case others need to up their game by a few percent. Even if they have been playing well, they need to play better. Take Andy Moran away from Mayo this year and they would have been gone in July. Take Dublin's best forward away and they would still probably win the all-ireland. And the fact that it's hard to name Dublin's best forward says it all. Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 28/09/2017 12:49:58 2051313 Link
Replying To Laois76: "The 2 O'Connors could do a little more looking back on the season in general. Substitute forwards like Loftus, Drake, Conor O'Shea etc need to push harder for places and make more of an impact. A blind man can see that Mayo were overly reliant on Andy. If that's the case others need to up their game by a few percent. Even if they have been playing well, they need to play better. Take Andy Moran away from Mayo this year and they would have been gone in July. Take Dublin's best forward away and they would still probably win the all-ireland. And the fact that it's hard to name Dublin's best forward says it all." Agree on most of that. I like most don't actually know what Drake adds to anything. He must be class in training!!Still think COC gets unfair analysis if you look at the semi final and final. 3 points from play on the biggest day of them all but people only remember the missed free. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7889 - 28/09/2017 12:58:52 2051317 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Agree on most of that. I like most don't actually know what Drake adds to anything. He must be class in training!!Still think COC gets unfair analysis if you look at the semi final and final. 3 points from play on the biggest day of them all but people only remember the missed free." It's something that always happens with Cillian, probably because he gets up to his fair share of mischief out the field. I can point to the Sligo, Cork, Roscommon (replay), Kerry (drawn) and Dublin games where he put up good scores from play this season, but you'll always get people who'll say that all he contributes is frees. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 28/09/2017 14:34:33 2051365 Link
If Mayo had Diarmuid Connolly or Bernard Brogan in our team the last few years and firing in a final, I think we would have won an All Ireland. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 28/09/2017 15:26:55 2051381 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "If Mayo had Diarmuid Connolly or Bernard Brogan in our team the last few years and firing in a final, I think we would have won an All Ireland." If you had Colm Cooper you would probably have won 5 37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 752 - 28/09/2017 15:30:53 2051383 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Agree on most of that. I like most don't actually know what Drake adds to anything. He must be class in training!!Still think COC gets unfair analysis if you look at the semi final and final. 3 points from play on the biggest day of them all but people only remember the missed free." The thing is The Flaker. Lads can no longer be seen as the U21 2016 winners with potential. One of them has to do a Con Callaghan on it, grab it by the scruff and be the man. I think it was Heffo who used say that if you weren't good enough for inter county at 21 you'd never be good enough. A bit of a generalisation but a lot of truth in it too. It would be next to impossible for Andy to repeat this year's performances. He may well be very good but he can't be expected to do so much. Yes Drake! The jusry is out. Last September i opened a thread Mayo's one to 2 year window to win an all-ireland before Kerry and others come back. I really think 2018 is year 2! Surely must be last chance saloon. Like Munster reached the holy grail in 2006 after an odyssey from 1999. 6 and a half years. Mayo will be at 2011 to 2018, 7 and a half years. Munster had huge personnel changes compared to Mayo too. In 2000 they had Galwey, Langford, Keith Wood, Clohessy, Halvey, Mike Mullins, Dutchie Holland, Crotty among others on the first team. All gone by 2006. Fellas like Halstedt, Ian Dowling, Paul O'Connell, Donncha O'Callaghan, Leamy etc on the team. The only real constants were Stringer, O'Gara, Foley, Quinlan, David Wallace (from 2001). Munster rugby in the 2000s and Mayo this decade are the 2 teams in my lifetime that just fall short. Hope history repeats itself. I suppose Wexford 1996 are similar too. George O'Connor lost 17 finals between Leinster's and League from 1979-1996. And he won his all-ireland medal and knelt down and prayed with his knobbled broken fingers! I cried! http://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/941775/original/?width=150&version=941775 Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 28/09/2017 15:51:15 2051388 Link
Replying To Gleebo: "That's not exactly what he said. Andy said that his father's people played for Western Gaels and consider themselves from Roscommon, but that he's a Mayo man through and through. It's all on the last two minutes of the link below. Question;" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.offtheball.com/GAA/Andy-Moran:-Its-been-an-unusual-week-really-" Question; If all my family and I are from Dublin and live in Dublin all our lives but i say I'm a Belfast man through and through does that make me a Belfast man? clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/09/2017 19:04:18 2051440 Link
Laois 76 Does the 76 refer to the number of profiles you log in on to like your own posts? ;) cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 28/09/2017 19:41:41 2051448 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Question; If all my family and I are from Dublin and live in Dublin all our lives but i say I'm a Belfast man through and through does that make me a Belfast man?" As far as I know, Belfast was never a part of Dublin and wasn't transferred to Antrim solely for the benefit of a local MP's business interests. So I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that your analogy is a rather inaccurate one which is merely intended to get a reaction. You've already been caught out once on this thread... Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 28/09/2017 19:42:31 2051450 Link
Replying To Gleebo: "As far as I know, Belfast was never a part of Dublin and wasn't transferred to Antrim solely for the benefit of a local MP's business interests. So I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that your analogy is a rather inaccurate one which is merely intended to get a reaction. You've already been caught out once on this thread..." So his family are all Roscommon but cause they moved to Ballaghadereen that makes him a Mayo man through and through ???? This is confusing Tom Parsons is in the same boat a Sligo man playing for Mayo, what is the story with you lot? clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/09/2017 20:03:33 2051461 Link