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Joe Canning for Hurler of the Year

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Ya that's the one year that springs to mind but I'm sure there were others too. He will go down as one of the greats but I'll stand by my opinion on this year"
were any of those other years when Tipp player got the award

mooncat (Kilkenny) - 07/11/2017 19:30:58    2061068

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Ya that's the one year that springs to mind but I'm sure there were others too. He will go down as one of the greats but I'll stand by my opinion on this year"
Fair play to you. You've been very consistent on this topic. I couldn't fault them if they picked Barron.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 07/11/2017 20:46:51    2061084

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Replying To tiobraid:  "His stats that year were off the scale. This year is probably his poorest return from play and amazingly the first year he didn't score a goal (one year out of 8/9 isn't bad going!), albeit playing much further from the goals. I'd be surprised if next year you don't see Canning doing a few 10 min stints at full forward as Donoughue may tweak a few things to bring back a goal threat to the Galway forward line.
Cody constantly tweaked his teams to bring continued success"
But if they're picking their points and winning that way why tweak it? But if you were in charge of Galway wouldn't Conor Whelan be better to get goals than Canning?

Trump2020 (Galway) - 07/11/2017 20:50:14    2061086

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Replying To Trump2020:  "But if they're picking their points and winning that way why tweak it? But if you were in charge of Galway wouldn't Conor Whelan be better to get goals than Canning?"
Personally I don't think the old saying if it isn't broken don't fix it approach works in sport. Winning teams constantly evolve. Teams will figure out how to reduce Galway's point scoring. A team that doesn't score goals is heavily reliant on their defence not conceding a few goals at the other end. Callanan would undoubtedly be a loss if he retired as would any of the 6 backs if they were injured. That's all if's buts and maybes but it can happen. Look what happened Tipp this year. Barrett was dropped and a lot of players didn't play to their best but their goal threat still nearly got them to the final (which they wouldn't have deserved)
With regards Whelan, firstly I think he's a class player but at senior level I don't believe he had one shot for a goal all year, even when in good positions. Maybe he can tweak his game but over the years if Canning got a sniff he would go for it every time. Even if he isn't playing well at full forward he almost always inevitably scored a goal or two from that position. It'll be an interesting year next year but that's just my opinion!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 08/11/2017 08:49:21    2061132

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Replying To mooncat:  "were any of those other years when Tipp player got the award"
Tipp got one award in 15 years and that was given to the wrong Tipp man but Canning had a good year that year too but I would've given it to Brendan Maher that year

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 08/11/2017 08:54:19    2061134

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Personally I don't think the old saying if it isn't broken don't fix it approach works in sport. Winning teams constantly evolve. Teams will figure out how to reduce Galway's point scoring. A team that doesn't score goals is heavily reliant on their defence not conceding a few goals at the other end. Callanan would undoubtedly be a loss if he retired as would any of the 6 backs if they were injured. That's all if's buts and maybes but it can happen. Look what happened Tipp this year. Barrett was dropped and a lot of players didn't play to their best but their goal threat still nearly got them to the final (which they wouldn't have deserved)
With regards Whelan, firstly I think he's a class player but at senior level I don't believe he had one shot for a goal all year, even when in good positions. Maybe he can tweak his game but over the years if Canning got a sniff he would go for it every time. Even if he isn't playing well at full forward he almost always inevitably scored a goal or two from that position. It'll be an interesting year next year but that's just my opinion!"
Tip your knowledge of the game is excellent, sorry that you lost the few bob on your bet, I am very happy JC got his deserved hurler of the year and
I also agree that the voting system is flawed. I would love to see each county panel nominate their player of the year then we would have say 20 players of the year ( one from each competing county) from that get the 20 players to vote 1,2,3 on their choice of best player or a similar system to that. under no circumstances should media or members of Sunday game have input into player of the year as they have their own agenda.

In regards to Galways chances next year, at the moment we are parting hard so I expect plenty of fringe players to get their chances in the league. I would hope that we win 1B but I be a bit worried , Re Galways lack of goals well Dublin, Ofifly, Waterford and Wexford parked the bus so Galway just went for pints anyone that thinks that Galway cant score goals would want their heads examined. Bar Kilkenny, retaining the All Ireland for the wining county has proven elusive over the past decade. Galway have the players up and coming to win all ireland next year they just need to be hungry and committed post well deserved team holiday

heartbroken (Galway) - 08/11/2017 10:32:53    2061156

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Replying To heartbroken:  "Tip your knowledge of the game is excellent, sorry that you lost the few bob on your bet, I am very happy JC got his deserved hurler of the year and
I also agree that the voting system is flawed. I would love to see each county panel nominate their player of the year then we would have say 20 players of the year ( one from each competing county) from that get the 20 players to vote 1,2,3 on their choice of best player or a similar system to that. under no circumstances should media or members of Sunday game have input into player of the year as they have their own agenda.

In regards to Galways chances next year, at the moment we are parting hard so I expect plenty of fringe players to get their chances in the league. I would hope that we win 1B but I be a bit worried , Re Galways lack of goals well Dublin, Ofifly, Waterford and Wexford parked the bus so Galway just went for pints anyone that thinks that Galway cant score goals would want their heads examined. Bar Kilkenny, retaining the All Ireland for the wining county has proven elusive over the past decade. Galway have the players up and coming to win all ireland next year they just need to be hungry and committed post well deserved team holiday"
Thanks for the compliment!

Galway will be happy enough to be in 1B this year I'm sure. They will probably hit the ground a bit slower than other counties due to celebrations and holidays etc and 1B should suit them perfectly for that reason.

I take your point regarding parking the bus, but Tipp have found a way to score 3+ goals against all them teams in the last two years. It'll sound like I'm saying Tipp is great! But I'm using them to make the point. I'm not running Galway down either but I'm just making the point that Donoghue might tweak his play next year to create more goal chances. When he looks back over the year he will know that Waterford shouldn't have been in that game right til full time as Galway were far superior

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 08/11/2017 11:09:26    2061171

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Tipp got one award in 15 years and that was given to the wrong Tipp man but Canning had a good year that year too but I would've given it to Brendan Maher that year"
shold have been a Tipp man last year

mooncat (Kilkenny) - 08/11/2017 18:04:19    2061269

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Personally I don't think the old saying if it isn't broken don't fix it approach works in sport. Winning teams constantly evolve. Teams will figure out how to reduce Galway's point scoring. A team that doesn't score goals is heavily reliant on their defence not conceding a few goals at the other end. Callanan would undoubtedly be a loss if he retired as would any of the 6 backs if they were injured. That's all if's buts and maybes but it can happen. Look what happened Tipp this year. Barrett was dropped and a lot of players didn't play to their best but their goal threat still nearly got them to the final (which they wouldn't have deserved)
With regards Whelan, firstly I think he's a class player but at senior level I don't believe he had one shot for a goal all year, even when in good positions. Maybe he can tweak his game but over the years if Canning got a sniff he would go for it every time. Even if he isn't playing well at full forward he almost always inevitably scored a goal or two from that position. It'll be an interesting year next year but that's just my opinion!"
Connor Cooney more likely to get a goal than Whelo!

The_DOC (Galway) - 08/11/2017 18:15:37    2061272

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Replying To mooncat:  "shold have been a Tipp man last year"
Personally I would've given it to Maher all day long but that's the joys of the voting system as it stands

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 09/11/2017 16:58:14    2061422

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Connor Cooney more likely to get a goal than Whelo!"
Ya agreed and even Joe Cooney coming at speed from the half forward line is always a threat at both club and county level as well

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 09/11/2017 16:59:27    2061423

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Ya agreed and even Joe Cooney coming at speed from the half forward line is always a threat at both club and county level as well"
Well i suppose its a good problem for Galway to have trying to pick between all them lads.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 10/11/2017 04:36:09    2061514

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Do Galway people feel he deserves it more than Whelan , C Cooney, MCinerney or Daithi Burke? There's not one Galway hurling man I know who thinks he does but maybe people here do...

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Conor Whelan got Young Hurler of the Year so it's not like he was ignored or overlooked while the others and Whelan were all picked as All Stars I believe. They ALL had great years and they had to for Galway to be so successful in 2017 but Canning was great too but had the huge signature moment against Tipp that may have sealed it for him.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 19/11/2017 22:42:12    2063042

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