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Joe Canning for Hurler of the Year

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Congrats Joe, I thought the first point against Waterford was an awesome demonstration of power and intent. He was the game changer. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1667 - 04/11/2017 12:31:35 2060416 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Are you for real? If you said he was excellent all year you might have a point but to say he deserved it on that performance..... If that's the case you could say anyone that was in Thurles to see the KK-Waterford game would be in no doubt who the hurler of the decade is!" He was excellent all year though.A thoroughly deserved win for Joe. Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 05/11/2017 14:50:03 2060587 Link
To those that disagree with Joe Canning being Hurler of the Year: was there ever a year when he DID deserve it but did not get it due to someone else getting it or was he never ever worthy of the Hurler of the Year? Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 06/11/2017 02:54:47 2060682 Link
Replying To Trump2020: "To those that disagree with Joe Canning being Hurler of the Year: was there ever a year when he DID deserve it but did not get it due to someone else getting it or was he never ever worthy of the Hurler of the Year?" Ya his first year in 2008 (despite KK sweeping all before him he deserved senior player of the year). Excellent club campaign and excellent debut year at senior. But unfortunately you don't get hurler of the year anymore unless you get to the final at least tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 06/11/2017 13:17:29 2060761 Link
Replying To Trump2020: "To those that disagree with Joe Canning being Hurler of the Year: was there ever a year when he DID deserve it but did not get it due to someone else getting it or was he never ever worthy of the Hurler of the Year?" 2 wrongs dont make a right Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 06/11/2017 13:26:24 2060766 Link
I can understand Galway people defending Joe The reality is this whole process stinks when the guy who actually deserved Player of the year wasn't even shortlisted for political reasons There will always be an asterisk after Joe's name as Player of the Year 2017 which is a pity. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 06/11/2017 13:41:28 2060771 Link
Replying To Ban: "I can understand Galway people defending Joe The reality is this whole process stinks when the guy who actually deserved Player of the year wasn't even shortlisted for political reasons There will always be an asterisk after Joe's name as Player of the Year 2017 which is a pity." Nonsense! I don't think that its that important, Joe already has the biggest prize to be won this or any other year, an All Ireland medal. Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 06/11/2017 14:13:27 2060778 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Ya his first year in 2008 (despite KK sweeping all before him he deserved senior player of the year). Excellent club campaign and excellent debut year at senior. But unfortunately you don't get hurler of the year anymore unless you get to the final at least" The award was won last year by a player who didn't make the final! A case can be made for a number of players most years and there is no doubt Canning is a deserving winner this year. However having the players vote for the winner makes little sense - I know a number of players who would watch very few games each year. Instead they will be playing or training with their clubs when intercounry games are on, or just out living life rather than spending their Sundays watching provincial games. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 06/11/2017 14:23:26 2060781 Link
Congratulations to Canning. And to certain begrudgers, dry your eyes. BlackAndBlue (UK) - Posts: 100 - 06/11/2017 15:47:44 2060810 Link
Replying To Soma: "The award was won last year by a player who didn't make the final! A case can be made for a number of players most years and there is no doubt Canning is a deserving winner this year. However having the players vote for the winner makes little sense - I know a number of players who would watch very few games each year. Instead they will be playing or training with their clubs when intercounry games are on, or just out living life rather than spending their Sundays watching provincial games." As buff would say " that was a bad statement by me"! I do agree that players aren't the best judges. How many players seen Tipp -Westmeath or Tipp- Dublin this year for example? None from outside those counties. A lot of people missed the KK - Waterford game also as it was on Sky. And why would they actually care either? As you say they have their own commitments. It's amazing how pundits selections can be so far removed from the players votes which means someone must be wrong. One thing that can't be questioned though is that the last two years have thrown up far more debate on this forum than any other year beforehand. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 06/11/2017 16:34:44 2060824 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Ya his first year in 2008 (despite KK sweeping all before him he deserved senior player of the year). Excellent club campaign and excellent debut year at senior. But unfortunately you don't get hurler of the year anymore unless you get to the final at least" His stats that year were off the scale. This year is probably his poorest return from play and amazingly the first year he didn't score a goal (one year out of 8/9 isn't bad going!), albeit playing much further from the goals. I'd be surprised if next year you don't see Canning doing a few 10 min stints at full forward as Donoughue may tweak a few things to bring back a goal threat to the Galway forward line. Cody constantly tweaked his teams to bring continued success tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 06/11/2017 16:39:55 2060827 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "His stats that year were off the scale. This year is probably his poorest return from play and amazingly the first year he didn't score a goal (one year out of 8/9 isn't bad going!), albeit playing much further from the goals. I'd be surprised if next year you don't see Canning doing a few 10 min stints at full forward as Donoughue may tweak a few things to bring back a goal threat to the Galway forward line. Cody constantly tweaked his teams to bring continued success" Cody also brought in new players and even a successful team needs to be freshened up.galway will need one or two new players next year to retain their title. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2154 - 06/11/2017 18:18:46 2060847 Link
Replying To endgame: "Cody also brought in new players and even a successful team needs to be freshened up.galway will need one or two new players next year to retain their title." Already have the likes of Tom Monaghan and Sean Loftus getting some exposure this year, added with the fact plenty of competition on the bench can't see too many changes in personal maybe Cyril and Colm might go as both are past 30. grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 06/11/2017 23:24:27 2060899 Link
Replying To endgame: "Cody also brought in new players and even a successful team needs to be freshened up.galway will need one or two new players next year to retain their title." Yep that's what I'm getting at tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/11/2017 08:21:55 2060916 Link
Replying To Ban: "I can understand Galway people defending Joe The reality is this whole process stinks when the guy who actually deserved Player of the year wasn't even shortlisted for political reasons There will always be an asterisk after Joe's name as Player of the Year 2017 which is a pity." what asterisk? Fake news there lad.................Canning is the hurler of the year he won it, now go and pick your grapes for your whine maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 07/11/2017 10:46:04 2060946 Link
Replying To maroondiesel: "what asterisk? Fake news there lad.................Canning is the hurler of the year he won it, now go and pick your grapes for your whine" My reference to an asterisk is more a mental one which people will have. I've nothing but admiration for Joe. My beef is the way the GAA steered the sheep. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 07/11/2017 11:14:05 2060948 Link
Replying To Ban: "2 wrongs dont make a right" Wrongs? You didn't answer the question at all. Did he EVER deserve it? Are you saying he was wronged in the past and got this years award due to that? Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 07/11/2017 15:48:18 2061021 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Ya his first year in 2008 (despite KK sweeping all before him he deserved senior player of the year). Excellent club campaign and excellent debut year at senior. But unfortunately you don't get hurler of the year anymore unless you get to the final at least" 2008? That was the year he scored almost all Galway's total against Cork I think. And they still lost. Yeah it's the finals or nothing anymore I guess. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 07/11/2017 15:50:34 2061022 Link
Replying To Trump2020: "2008? That was the year he scored almost all Galway's total against Cork I think. And they still lost. Yeah it's the finals or nothing anymore I guess." Ya that's the one year that springs to mind but I'm sure there were others too. He will go down as one of the greats but I'll stand by my opinion on this year tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/11/2017 16:21:27 2061028 Link
Replying To Trump2020: "Wrongs? You didn't answer the question at all. Did he EVER deserve it? Are you saying he was wronged in the past and got this years award due to that?" Apologies - I thought your question/comment was an insinuation Unfortunately I'm unable to answer your question - My memory inst sufficient enough to make an accurate stab at the answer Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 07/11/2017 17:34:06 2061043 Link