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Joe Canning for Hurler of the Year

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Just watched the first half again and what a half of hurling Barron had and he was still quiet by his own standards! By my rough calculations he had more possessions than any other player and more than Burke and canning combined. I'm 100% sure he hashirler of the year sewn up"
Why are you judging players on first half performances, most big games are won in the last 20 minutes? You thought Canning being quiet in the first half against Tipperary should be one of the reasons he doesn't win player of the year and Barron getting on the ball a lot in the first half of the final a reason he should win it. Watch the 2nd half and tell us who was supposed to be picking up Burke for his 2 points, which were huge scores in the game. If your man gets man of the match I don't know how you can have had a good game - a player has 2 roles and that is to stop your opponent and contribute to your own sides play. The lads voting for these awards often only see highlights of most championship games but as Canning is a popular figure in the hurling world Id say he should have a real good chance.

Soma (UK) - 08/10/2017 16:29:06    2053877

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Replying To Soma:  "Why are you judging players on first half performances, most big games are won in the last 20 minutes? You thought Canning being quiet in the first half against Tipperary should be one of the reasons he doesn't win player of the year and Barron getting on the ball a lot in the first half of the final a reason he should win it. Watch the 2nd half and tell us who was supposed to be picking up Burke for his 2 points, which were huge scores in the game. If your man gets man of the match I don't know how you can have had a good game - a player has 2 roles and that is to stop your opponent and contribute to your own sides play. The lads voting for these awards often only see highlights of most championship games but as Canning is a popular figure in the hurling world Id say he should have a real good chance."
I was making the point that he hadn't a bad game not he deserves it on that game. Who was picking Barron up for his scores? He had a huge impact on that game.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 09/10/2017 08:39:50    2053991

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Replying To Trump2020:  "100% Sure??? I hope you're not a betting man. I'm more 60/40 in Cannings favor partially due to Moran taking votes away from Barron."
I am indeed! Moran wont take any votes away from Barron in my opinion. The consensus last year was that Callanan would get it but I'd imagine Maher got a lot of votes (I thought he was definitely hurler of the year last year). Moran was excellent this year but if Canning wins it this year, I don't think the same logic can be used that was used by some last year for the Hurling and Football winners.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 09/10/2017 08:42:41    2053993

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Its the "Hurler of the Year " award not the "hurler of the All Ireland Final" or even the Hurler of the All Ireland Championship for that matter and therefore the winner should be Canning who played a massive role in winning the league title for Galway as well as the Leinster and All Ireland Championships.

Condorman (Dublin) - 11/10/2017 09:42:27    2054574

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Replying To Condorman:  "Its the "Hurler of the Year " award not the "hurler of the All Ireland Final" or even the Hurler of the All Ireland Championship for that matter and therefore the winner should be Canning who played a massive role in winning the league title for Galway as well as the Leinster and All Ireland Championships."
Amen.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 13/10/2017 18:52:09    2055122

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I am indeed! Moran wont take any votes away from Barron in my opinion. The consensus last year was that Callanan would get it but I'd imagine Maher got a lot of votes (I thought he was definitely hurler of the year last year). Moran was excellent this year but if Canning wins it this year, I don't think the same logic can be used that was used by some last year for the Hurling and Football winners."
I disagree with you. Moran will take SOME votes from Barron just like Geroid Mac would have hurt Canning if he was to get through. Whether Barron wins or not Moran will get some of his votes.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 13/10/2017 19:00:43    2055124

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Too bad the club scene doesn't count towards the vote as Joe Canning scored all 12 of Portumna's point total in their loss this past weekend.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 24/10/2017 12:55:26    2057514

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I am indeed! Moran wont take any votes away from Barron in my opinion. The consensus last year was that Callanan would get it but I'd imagine Maher got a lot of votes (I thought he was definitely hurler of the year last year). Moran was excellent this year but if Canning wins it this year, I don't think the same logic can be used that was used by some last year for the Hurling and Football winners."
"if Canning wins it this year"? Are you serious? There's no ifs about it Canning is going to win Hurler of the Year. It became a fait accompli once Gearóid McInerney was omitted from the nominees. (The Sunday Game panel unanimously named the 26-year-old as their player of the year).

Joe Canning was 10/1 on to win it with the bookies a month ago; now the books have been closed, you can't get a bet.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - 24/10/2017 13:27:03    2057527

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""if Canning wins it this year"? Are you serious? There's no ifs about it Canning is going to win Hurler of the Year. It became a fait accompli once Gearóid McInerney was omitted from the nominees. (The Sunday Game panel unanimously named the 26-year-old as their player of the year).

Joe Canning was 10/1 on to win it with the bookies a month ago; now the books have been closed, you can't get a bet."
He wasn't 10/1 at any stage. He was favourite since the All Ireland. I don't agree with that as I said but its blatant lies to say he was 10/1

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 24/10/2017 16:58:18    2057597

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Replying To tiobraid:  "He wasn't 10/1 at any stage. He was favourite since the All Ireland. I don't agree with that as I said but its blatant lies to say he was 10/1"
I said 10/1 on, In other words 1/10.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - 24/10/2017 20:24:07    2057685

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "I said 10/1 on, In other words 1/10."
Yes clearly Tiobraid is not a betting man.

endgame (Roscommon) - 24/10/2017 20:46:34    2057696

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Replying To tiobraid:  "He wasn't 10/1 at any stage. He was favourite since the All Ireland. I don't agree with that as I said but its blatant lies to say he was 10/1"
Wrong. Canning was 10/1 with Paddy Power up to about July. There is a lot being made here about the first half of this or the first half of that. Anyone that was in Pearse Stadium when Galway beat Waterford in the league quarter final would be in no doubt who the hurler of the year should be. Joe Canning gave an absolute awesome display to haul galway back into the game from 10 points down in both halves. I know that it is easy to scoff at the league but subsequent events have proven that this was the most important game played all year (at least for Galway and probably for Waterford also). I read an article by Tony Brown a couple of weeks ago and he in effect said that Waterford created a monster that day and I would say that if Waterford had the chance again they would treat the fixture differently.

lynski (Galway) - 24/10/2017 20:49:21    2057699

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Replying To lynski:  "Wrong. Canning was 10/1 with Paddy Power up to about July. There is a lot being made here about the first half of this or the first half of that. Anyone that was in Pearse Stadium when Galway beat Waterford in the league quarter final would be in no doubt who the hurler of the year should be. Joe Canning gave an absolute awesome display to haul galway back into the game from 10 points down in both halves. I know that it is easy to scoff at the league but subsequent events have proven that this was the most important game played all year (at least for Galway and probably for Waterford also). I read an article by Tony Brown a couple of weeks ago and he in effect said that Waterford created a monster that day and I would say that if Waterford had the chance again they would treat the fixture differently."
Read what I said! He was 1/10 about a month ago, after the three nominations were announced.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - 24/10/2017 21:16:53    2057703

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Replying To endgame:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "I said 10/1 on, In other words 1/10."
Yes clearly Tiobraid is not a betting man."
I read it incorrectly! Don't worry I'll have an nice little profit on my Barron - McCarthy double ;)

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 25/10/2017 08:44:25    2057764

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Replying To lynski:  "Wrong. Canning was 10/1 with Paddy Power up to about July. There is a lot being made here about the first half of this or the first half of that. Anyone that was in Pearse Stadium when Galway beat Waterford in the league quarter final would be in no doubt who the hurler of the year should be. Joe Canning gave an absolute awesome display to haul galway back into the game from 10 points down in both halves. I know that it is easy to scoff at the league but subsequent events have proven that this was the most important game played all year (at least for Galway and probably for Waterford also). I read an article by Tony Brown a couple of weeks ago and he in effect said that Waterford created a monster that day and I would say that if Waterford had the chance again they would treat the fixture differently."
Are you for real? If you said he was excellent all year you might have a point but to say he deserved it on that performance..... If that's the case you could say anyone that was in Thurles to see the KK-Waterford game would be in no doubt who the hurler of the decade is!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 25/10/2017 11:54:07    2057813

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Replying To lynski:  "Wrong. Canning was 10/1 with Paddy Power up to about July. There is a lot being made here about the first half of this or the first half of that. Anyone that was in Pearse Stadium when Galway beat Waterford in the league quarter final would be in no doubt who the hurler of the year should be. Joe Canning gave an absolute awesome display to haul galway back into the game from 10 points down in both halves. I know that it is easy to scoff at the league but subsequent events have proven that this was the most important game played all year (at least for Galway and probably for Waterford also). I read an article by Tony Brown a couple of weeks ago and he in effect said that Waterford created a monster that day and I would say that if Waterford had the chance again they would treat the fixture differently."
I agree that was a huge match. Possibly a turning point though Galway didn't even win promotion from 1B thanks to Wexford.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 27/10/2017 21:43:31    2058716

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I agree that was a huge match. Possibly a turning point though Galway didn't even win promotion from 1B thanks to Wexford."
Is it crucial they play in 1A?

fireinthebelly (Galway) - 28/10/2017 07:14:29    2058742

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Replying To fireinthebelly:  "Is it crucial they play in 1A?"
No not at all. Galway won the League and All Ireland despite being in 1B. I was only pointing out the Wexford loss as a possible turning point to their season as opposed to the Waterford league match.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 29/10/2017 01:26:56    2058890

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Replying To fireinthebelly:  "Is it crucial they play in 1A?"
In fact I have no problem with Galway staying in 1B due to giving some of the players that don't start for them regularly some playing time making their bench even deeper.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 30/10/2017 09:13:46    2059063

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Congrats to Joe Canning and Andy Moran and to all the runners up. Great years all around.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 04/11/2017 09:48:58    2060376

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