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Joe Canning for Hurler of the Year

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Joe Canning deserves to be hurler of the year with the nominations announced it looks odds on that JC will get his reward for been part of a team that brought Liam back west.
JC leadership on the field has been outstanding this year his winning point against Tip was an outstanding bit of skill taken under server pressure .
Fair play to Waterford for getting 2 players nominated for player of the year however both these players have been part of a team that lost out on a league, were beaten in the Munster champ and are beaten All Ireland finalist. Where as JC has been an instrumental part of a team that won the League and Linster champ, and finally are 2017 All Ireland champs.

Gaillimh Abu

heartbroken (Galway) - 20/09/2017 08:22:11    2048412

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How Gearoid McInerney was not nominated is bonkers really. He was dominant in every game he played and was one of the main reasons why Galway won Liam McCarthy this year.

mon (Galway) - 20/09/2017 10:17:14    2048449

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From the three nominated Joe Canning is getting it more as a reward for persistent year on year performances a la Ryan Giggs getting player of the year at 35/36..... Joe wasn't even the best player on his team this year. As someone said McInerney and the two cooneys and burkes were brilliant.
Of the three nominated Jaime Barron should win it but it's all about Joe.

brian (Meath) - 20/09/2017 10:30:14    2048455

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Replying To brian:  "From the three nominated Joe Canning is getting it more as a reward for persistent year on year performances a la Ryan Giggs getting player of the year at 35/36..... Joe wasn't even the best player on his team this year. As someone said McInerney and the two cooneys and burkes were brilliant.
Of the three nominated Jaime Barron should win it but it's all about Joe."
Well said. There's very little doubt in my mind what's going on here but I still think Barron will win it. A blind man can see he deserves it

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 20/09/2017 10:36:11    2048459

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Out of 3 nominated it has to be Barron

A complete joke McInerney wasn't nominated

dubshurling7 (Dublin) - 20/09/2017 10:54:55    2048465

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Canning scored 4 points from play against Dublin fair enough, was very quiet against Offaly considering they are useless. Was kept scoreless from play against Wexford and did very very little throughout the game. Had an excellent semi final and had a poor final if we are being honest. He isn't the hurler of the year by a long way and shouldn't even have been nominated. It is media hype that is covering over some very ordinary performances. One good performance does not merit hurler of the year. The hurler of the year is for the best performer throughout the league, and championship and that certainly was not Joe canning. It wasn't Austin gleeson last year either. Nor is hurler of the year an award for consistency over previous seasons. Performances during 2017 is all that should be taken into account and for me that should be Jamie Barron or Gearoid McInerney

890202 (Wexford) - 20/09/2017 11:07:41    2048472

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juston the hurling all star nominations . westmeath fullback tommy doyle kept seamus callinan scoreless from play this year and gets no nomination
so much for a weaker county

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - 20/09/2017 11:11:22    2048474

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Replying To 890202:  "Canning scored 4 points from play against Dublin fair enough, was very quiet against Offaly considering they are useless. Was kept scoreless from play against Wexford and did very very little throughout the game. Had an excellent semi final and had a poor final if we are being honest. He isn't the hurler of the year by a long way and shouldn't even have been nominated. It is media hype that is covering over some very ordinary performances. One good performance does not merit hurler of the year. The hurler of the year is for the best performer throughout the league, and championship and that certainly was not Joe canning. It wasn't Austin gleeson last year either. Nor is hurler of the year an award for consistency over previous seasons. Performances during 2017 is all that should be taken into account and for me that should be Jamie Barron or Gearoid McInerney"
I agree with your general point, but to say he had a poor final is nonsense. He set the tone with a fantastic score to open the scoring, sent over a wonderful sideline and another from play. He didn't miss a single free either, which kept our noses ahead at crucial stages. He had a knock in the second half and couldn't cover much ground. If that's a poor performance, there must be very few decent hurlers in the country.

WanPintWin (Galway) - 20/09/2017 11:24:25    2048477

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "juston the hurling all star nominations . westmeath fullback tommy doyle kept seamus callinan scoreless from play this year and gets no nomination
so much for a weaker county"
Was he also marking Shane Dooley this year in the Leinster championship?

Soma (UK) - 20/09/2017 11:28:02    2048482

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Replying To 890202:  "Canning scored 4 points from play against Dublin fair enough, was very quiet against Offaly considering they are useless. Was kept scoreless from play against Wexford and did very very little throughout the game. Had an excellent semi final and had a poor final if we are being honest. He isn't the hurler of the year by a long way and shouldn't even have been nominated. It is media hype that is covering over some very ordinary performances. One good performance does not merit hurler of the year. The hurler of the year is for the best performer throughout the league, and championship and that certainly was not Joe canning. It wasn't Austin gleeson last year either. Nor is hurler of the year an award for consistency over previous seasons. Performances during 2017 is all that should be taken into account and for me that should be Jamie Barron or Gearoid McInerney"
Media hype this year is farcical. He hurled for 10-12 mins max against Tipp and he was Galways worst player in the first half. He got three fantastic scores but missed at least 3 easy chances in the first half.
He was outscored this year from play by Niall Burke. He certainly wasn't a playmaker either. If he was then Galway would surely have scored more goals. I still stand by the fact that I don't think he can get an all star based on what I seen this year.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 20/09/2017 11:33:03    2048483

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Media hype this year is farcical. He hurled for 10-12 mins max against Tipp and he was Galways worst player in the first half. He got three fantastic scores but missed at least 3 easy chances in the first half.
He was outscored this year from play by Niall Burke. He certainly wasn't a playmaker either. If he was then Galway would surely have scored more goals. I still stand by the fact that I don't think he can get an all star based on what I seen this year."
The biggest moment arguably of Galways season was in that first half when Canning put in a huge hit on Breen, sending him out over the sideline. Canning then put the sideline cut over the bar from 60 yards. It was a real statement and I don't think there is another hurler in the country who could have done it, but Joe gets measured by different standards by many.

Soma (UK) - 20/09/2017 11:46:44    2048493

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Replying To Soma:  "The biggest moment arguably of Galways season was in that first half when Canning put in a huge hit on Breen, sending him out over the sideline. Canning then put the sideline cut over the bar from 60 yards. It was a real statement and I don't think there is another hurler in the country who could have done it, but Joe gets measured by different standards by many."
Its that type of rubbish that he gets the good and bad publicity he does. How can you pick out on incident? I'd argue a biggerimpact on the All Ireland series was bringing Glynn on against Tipp...Tipp moved Maher on him from 7 and he ended up playing the last 7/8 mins at number 2. Would Canning have scored the winner if Maher was there?

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 20/09/2017 11:54:26    2048497

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Vote for Joe the man you know

Everyone I've been speaking to about this today thinks its an absolute joke!

Every Sunday game analyst gave it to Gearoid McInerney. It was unanimous.

To think he's not even short listed makes this null & void for me which is a pity

Leave politics out of Sport

Ban (Westmeath) - 20/09/2017 12:05:23    2048503

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Its that type of rubbish that he gets the good and bad publicity he does. How can you pick out on incident? I'd argue a biggerimpact on the All Ireland series was bringing Glynn on against Tipp...Tipp moved Maher on him from 7 and he ended up playing the last 7/8 mins at number 2. Would Canning have scored the winner if Maher was there?"
You said he had a terrible first half and was Galways worst player, I was just highlighting how during that 35 minutes he came up with a huge moment that no other player in the country would be able to produce. You also say he wasn't a playmaker as Galway didn't score goals, there is only so much one man can do link His free taking this year was almost flawless as well, I'm sure a Tipperary man would appreciate the importance of that in a final!

Soma (UK) - 20/09/2017 12:17:55    2048512

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And the big question that everyone seems to be forgetting now is 'where to play Joe'. We'll just had to find two new threads to discuss in the fall of '17. 'Where to play Joe' & 'Proposals for new Galway hurling manager/management team' seem to have fallen by the wayside this year, for some unknown reason.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - 20/09/2017 12:20:33    2048514

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I agree with your general point, but to say he had a poor final is nonsense. He set the tone with a fantastic score to open the scoring, sent over a wonderful sideline and another from play. He didn't miss a single free either, which kept our noses ahead at crucial stages. He had a knock in the second half and couldn't cover much ground. If that's a poor performance, there must be very few decent hurlers in the country."
yes he was

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - 20/09/2017 12:44:45    2048534

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Its that type of rubbish that he gets the good and bad publicity he does. How can you pick out on incident? I'd argue a biggerimpact on the All Ireland series was bringing Glynn on against Tipp...Tipp moved Maher on him from 7 and he ended up playing the last 7/8 mins at number 2. Would Canning have scored the winner if Maher was there?"
If Maher was where? Standing right beside him? Maybe not. Standing any place else? More than likely.

I wouldn't rate Maher a great marking half-back. Maher is considered a great modern day half-back imo because of his 'get to the ball first' capacity, his capacity for aerial domination, and his capacity to dominate his patch, and deliver offensive momentum for Tipp. He is less renowned imo for 'shutting down' his offensive opponent, especially if that opponent tends to rove, rather than attempting to compete all day with Maher in the same general location on the pitch. In other words, I don't think Maher has earned his defensive reputation from being a specialist man-marker. For example, Noel Connors gave an exhibition of this particular specific quality in the 2017 final, on the Whelan task. Maher is not that type of defender for me, so there might be no absolute guarantee of Maher's whereabouts in relation to Canning, even if he was his designated marker at the time. Besides, if TIpp lost the plot defensively when Glynn came on, is that Joe Canning's problem? No it is not, that is Tipp's problem.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - 20/09/2017 12:47:59    2048535

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Replying To Soma:  "You said he had a terrible first half and was Galways worst player, I was just highlighting how during that 35 minutes he came up with a huge moment that no other player in the country would be able to produce. You also say he wasn't a playmaker as Galway didn't score goals, there is only so much one man can do link His free taking this year was almost flawless as well, I'm sure a Tipperary man would appreciate the importance of that in a final!"
It wasn't flawless. He missed ridiculous frees against Tipp. A clubmate of his told me at halftime he should be taken off

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 20/09/2017 12:53:36    2048537

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "If Maher was where? Standing right beside him? Maybe not. Standing any place else? More than likely.

I wouldn't rate Maher a great marking half-back. Maher is considered a great modern day half-back imo because of his 'get to the ball first' capacity, his capacity for aerial domination, and his capacity to dominate his patch, and deliver offensive momentum for Tipp. He is less renowned imo for 'shutting down' his offensive opponent, especially if that opponent tends to rove, rather than attempting to compete all day with Maher in the same general location on the pitch. In other words, I don't think Maher has earned his defensive reputation from being a specialist man-marker. For example, Noel Connors gave an exhibition of this particular specific quality in the 2017 final, on the Whelan task. Maher is not that type of defender for me, so there might be no absolute guarantee of Maher's whereabouts in relation to Canning, even if he was his designated marker at the time. Besides, if TIpp lost the plot defensively when Glynn came on, is that Joe Canning's problem? No it is not, that is Tipp's problem."
You hit the nail on the head when you said dominate his patch! For what it's worth my original posted was edited.
Also his shutting down of opponents got Tipp to the final last year when he hooked Cooney. Galway possibly would have two in a row now only for it. My original point is taken out of context by the editing and I couldn't be bothered rewriting it!
For what its worth Barron has hurler of the year sewn up

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 20/09/2017 12:56:54    2048541

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Do Galway people feel he deserves it more than Whelan , C Cooney, MCinerney or Daithi Burke? There's not one Galway hurling man I know who thinks he does but maybe people here do...

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 20/09/2017 13:01:13    2048544

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