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The super 8

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Before it even starts I think most people want it scrapped.

All going according to script, Dublin will meet Mayo in the super 8 groups next year. It could be a cracking game between the two best in the business but to what end? Both will advance anyway and what should be the outstanding game of the year could well be reduced to a dead rubber.

Does anyone want this? Seriously?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - 18/09/2017 18:58:22    2047628

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Don't think any of that is a forgone conclusion Mayo could be in with Cork or Kerry as easily as Dublin if they win Connacht. One of Galway or Roscommon could be in with Dublin. Also there won't be any givemes from Ulster teams and Cork gave Mayo a scare.

I'm a huge fan of the super 8, the provincials have led to easy pathways for Dublin and Kerry, next year things will be fairer by blocking easy routes. Thus it's fairer.

I'm all for it.

TheUsername (Dublin) - 18/09/2017 20:37:22    2047686

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Don't think any of that is a forgone conclusion Mayo could be in with Cork or Kerry as easily as Dublin if they win Connacht. One of Galway or Roscommon could be in with Dublin. Also there won't be any givemes from Ulster teams and Cork gave Mayo a scare.

I'm a huge fan of the super 8, the provincials have led to easy pathways for Dublin and Kerry, next year things will be fairer by blocking easy routes. Thus it's fairer.

I'm all for it."
There may be more tough games but the route is easier if anything. An off day can be recovered from

cavanman47 (Cavan) - 18/09/2017 21:26:37    2047728

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Will there be home and away for the super 8s or will the matches be played at neutral venues.?

endgame (Roscommon) - 18/09/2017 21:38:41    2047741

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Replying To cavanman47:  "There may be more tough games but the route is easier if anything. An off day can be recovered from"
I dont think it will be easier mate, you will have the play a team from every province to win it, unless a team from the qualifiers knock out a provincial runner up, just my opinion.

You also get a chance to recover now in the qualifiers unless you win the province, i mean Mayo lost a game to Galway this year and could have won the all ireland yesterday.

I think you may see teams try and do different things, in a league format rather then knock out. The context to this may be fasinating and with match ups for the semi final based on placing the results could be fascinating. For instance if Dublin win their group, you can bet in the other group the other teams will be going hell bent to avoid them.

TheUsername (Dublin) - 18/09/2017 22:08:02    2047765

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Hope group 1 is dublin cork galway monaghan group 2 kerry tyrone mayo donegal

tjcentrehalfbak (Galway) - 18/09/2017 22:09:54    2047767

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Replying To endgame:  "Will there be home and away for the super 8s or will the matches be played at neutral venues.?"
yes home and away and a neutral venue croke park...of course the dubs will have two home games and travel for one game...after all sure we have to give them an advantage

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - 18/09/2017 22:56:19    2047802

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Don't think any of that is a forgone conclusion Mayo could be in with Cork or Kerry as easily as Dublin if they win Connacht. One of Galway or Roscommon could be in with Dublin. Also there won't be any givemes from Ulster teams and Cork gave Mayo a scare.

I'm a huge fan of the super 8, the provincials have led to easy pathways for Dublin and Kerry, next year things will be fairer by blocking easy routes. Thus it's fairer.

I'm all for it."
I can't see it being anything but an utter waste of time with more dead rubbers than meaningful games. The qualifiers has already reduced the chances of any of the big 3 getting knocked out before the semifinals. The comically named Super 8 will further reduce this to zero. At least this year there were only 4 one sided quarterfinals out of 5 and 1 one sided semi. Next year we can expect at least 7 hammerings in the new set up and another in one of the semis.

Westfester (Limerick) - 19/09/2017 00:40:10    2047851

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Replying To endgame:  "Will there be home and away for the super 8s or will the matches be played at neutral venues.?"
Do you mean Croke Park?????

Westfester (Limerick) - 19/09/2017 00:41:13    2047852

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Before it even starts I think most people want it scrapped.

All going according to script, Dublin will meet Mayo in the super 8 groups next year. It could be a cracking game between the two best in the business but to what end? Both will advance anyway and what should be the outstanding game of the year could well be reduced to a dead rubber.

Does anyone want this? Seriously?"
How does is work in year 1? Are Leinster and Connacht champions in one group and Ulster and Munster champs in the other?

Will all the games be in Croke park?

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 19/09/2017 00:54:26    2047858

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "How does is work in year 1? Are Leinster and Connacht champions in one group and Ulster and Munster champs in the other?

Will all the games be in Croke park?"
Yeah that's how the draw works in 2018.

It's going to be 1 home game, 1 away and 1 neutral (not sure how croker will be classified, would imagine Dublin will play their home game there and most neutral games will be either there, Limerick and maybe Clones

cavanman47 (Cavan) - 19/09/2017 10:55:20    2047944

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I think it should be given a chance for now, even though I have concerns about it.

I think teams will get opportunities to learn from defeats and improve.

The Croke Park games get played first and should be more exciting than the quarterfinal line ups that we see. Provincial champions play one another in Croke, followed by qualifiers playing one another.

So a team getting to the last 8 through the back door likely has a better shot at a win in Croke Park.

Quite often you will have the situation where a winning qualifier plays a losing Provincial champion at home in a winner takes all group game.

The home and away factor will add a new dynamic to the competition. As far as I can tell all neutral games are in Croke Park so Dublin do retain an advantage in that regard.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - 19/09/2017 11:46:45    2047979

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Yeah that's how the draw works in 2018.

It's going to be 1 home game, 1 away and 1 neutral (not sure how croker will be classified, would imagine Dublin will play their home game there and most neutral games will be either there, Limerick and maybe Clones"
On the flipside, Dublin could be playing Mayo with Mayo needing a win and the game is in Castlebar or Thurles, that makes for a fascinating contest and a great day out for all the fans
There's always going to be dead rubber matches with this set up but I think there's also the potential for some great games too

keithlemon (Australia) - 19/09/2017 11:46:52    2047980

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