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Replying To NaomhNaille: "The steps for the Dublin goal is unreal. 9 or so steps taken." The steps rule is now non existent as far as referees go. Andy Moran being getting away with it all year. He not the only one. They're either have to enforce it or increase it.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 17/09/2017 19:03:26
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We'll completely overlook the blatant trip on McCarthy by O'Shea at the start of the second half while we're at it.
The red cards helped tip it in Dublins favour IMO because Small was going see the line regardless but not only did Vaughan see the line too but the free that had been awarded which if scored would've put them 2 pts up ending up being a hop ball which Dublin won.
There were a few suspect decisions for both teams but I don't think the ref was the winning or losing of the game for either team
Long.Dub.Glic (Dublin) - Posts: 190 - 17/09/2017 19:09:12
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Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST: "Just listened to Pat Mceananey on the radio who was asked about the referee's performance. He said he reviewed all the decisions made and he found that the referee got them all 100% correct. Specifically he mentioned the sending off of Vaughan, the Dublin free at the end of the first half where initially two Dublin players ran into each other (he said vaughan came in and gave the ref no choice) and finally on the penalty he said the ref definitely got it right as the foul began outside the box.
In fact he went on to say that the referee was "Brilliant" on the day, and the only mistake he could find was one made by the linesman near the end where Mayo got the sideline ball and it should have went to Dublin.
So thats that, the referee cannot be blamed so surely we now have to look at the inability of Mayo to win a match they could have won?" Im not blaming the ref that's the only decision i believe that was wrong but how cam anyone can disagree that he didnt take too many steps..... Its so obvious
NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 124 - 17/09/2017 19:10:14
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Replying To HurlingSnob: "It's funny what fools like you see. He didn't give the free for the two Dublin players colliding. He gave the free after that when two mayo players had their arms around the Dublin player. Watch it back." You may be correct with the soft free but!
Unfortunately for Mayo key decisions went in Dublins favour:
obvious penatly not given
the Dublin goal was scored after 8-9 steps - in fairness the were small steps!!
the winning free should have been a free out as Connolly had taken 7 steps before he was fouled.
The Ref tends to give decisions to the Dubs
What about the full forward making hand contact on face- was that not a red card offence?
With 15minutes to go Mayo took off all their match winners - silly stuff
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 17/09/2017 19:14:33
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Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST: "Just listened to Pat Mceananey on the radio who was asked about the referee's performance. He said he reviewed all the decisions made and he found that the referee got them all 100% correct. Specifically he mentioned the sending off of Vaughan, the Dublin free at the end of the first half where initially two Dublin players ran into each other (he said vaughan came in and gave the ref no choice) and finally on the penalty he said the ref definitely got it right as the foul began outside the box.
In fact he went on to say that the referee was "Brilliant" on the day, and the only mistake he could find was one made by the linesman near the end where Mayo got the sideline ball and it should have went to Dublin.
So thats that, the referee cannot be blamed so surely we now have to look at the inability of Mayo to win a match they could have won?" Shock horror......the man responsible for refs and key hand in appointing them says his 'appointee' had a great game.........
PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 17/09/2017 19:15:21
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Replying To Ulsterman: "Mayo denied a clear penalty with mins to go. Most undeserved All Ireland win in history." You're forgetting about 2011, 2013, 2015 and 2016.
It's the same every game Dublin win some of yous are on here crying.
The culchies that cried wolf.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 17/09/2017 19:19:07
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Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST: "Just listened to Pat Mceananey on the radio who was asked about the referee's performance. He said he reviewed all the decisions made and he found that the referee got them all 100% correct. Specifically he mentioned the sending off of Vaughan, the Dublin free at the end of the first half where initially two Dublin players ran into each other (he said vaughan came in and gave the ref no choice) and finally on the penalty he said the ref definitely got it right as the foul began outside the box.
In fact he went on to say that the referee was "Brilliant" on the day, and the only mistake he could find was one made by the linesman near the end where Mayo got the sideline ball and it should have went to Dublin.
So thats that, the referee cannot be blamed so surely we now have to look at the inability of Mayo to win a match they could have won?" Vaughan was a liability to Mayo today. Giving away frees and then the red. Just was over hyped.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 17/09/2017 19:21:13
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Replying To Lifford Gael: "Dublin deserving victors. Didn't like their antics at the end - similar to Kerry in 2014 - but this Dublin team still won despite not playing to their full potential. Mayo bottled it at the end once again when Cillian O'Connor had the chance to win it. Well done Dublin. 3 in a row is a huge feat though will there be questions over this 3 in a row when we look back in future years in that 2 of those victories were over Mayo?" Strange post. I really don't see how you can say Mayo bottled it - very disrespectful to a magnificent effort that only lost out in the last minute.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 17/09/2017 19:21:42
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Replying To Floops: "Love this thread. 3-in-a-row baby! thanks for the congrats btw very classy lol" I think you are demonstrating what 'class' or lack of it is. Enjoy your win
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 17/09/2017 19:23:39
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Replying To Ulsterman: "Mayo denied a clear penalty with mins to go. Most undeserved All Ireland win in history." Watched them all since the first one in 1887 have ye?
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 17/09/2017 19:26:21
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Lads some of the comments on here are reckless..3 in a row had just been done. What a remarkable achievement. First of all well done dublin. They are the best around. They have raised the bar and its up to the others to catch up. The ref didnt lose this game for Mayo. They lost it themselves. For 50 mins they were just about the better team 1. Vaughans sending off. Correct call. 2 Penalty decision. Correct call. Foul took place outside the area. Player fell inside. 3. Mayo missed too many scoreable chances. Unforgiveable against a team like dublin 4. Mayo stopped pressing Cluxtons kick outs in the 2nd half. The ref did miss the o gara incident. He was lucky to stay on the pitch. Other than that I thought the ref did ok. Would give keith higgins the motm. He was outstanding.
aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 665 - 17/09/2017 19:26:46
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Replying To ruanua: "I can see why Mayo fans might be unhappy with the ref but
1) the free at the end of the first half was for a tackle after the Kilkenny/Andrews collision - it may still have been soft but that's another argument
2) there was contact outside the square and then heavy contact in the square - if he blew for the first contact it was a free
3) the CoC free chance came from a incorrect line
Ball and a fairly soft free
4) he correctly gave Mayo 2 mins to equalise due to time wasting -,this is not always the case ( 2011)
5) it was a red card
All in all Mayo probably were unlucky on the big calls but don't think any of them were 100 pc wrong
They lost the game -from 3/4 easy wides - not being able to sustain the effort on ckuxtons kick outs ab" Point 3 is incorrect, watch it back, Dub player touched it last
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 17/09/2017 19:27:45
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I can't believe there's Dubs whose first thoughts after winning an All Ireland are to go on a forum. Go out an enjoy it.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 17/09/2017 19:28:40
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I don't think Mayo can complain as they had their chances---- J Doherty should have scored when through on Cluxton or at least pointed.
I really fancied Mayo and had them backed earlier on in the year to win Sam I have no complaints
The kick outs in the last few minutes all went Dublin's way , should Clarke not have tried to find a teammate with those last couple kick outs ? You could say goalkeepers cost Mayo the last two All IRELANDS
Also discipline is a big factor in any game and especially a final. What did D Vaughan achieve by his actions today ?
Had he kept his head Mayo would have had an extra man and could have won
Leaving all that aside congratulations to Dublin , a fantastic achievement. Well done to all and hard luck again to Mayo
Only for us ( Donegal) Dublin would now have five in a row.
SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 17/09/2017 19:36:08
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Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST: "Just listened to Pat Mceananey on the radio who was asked about the referee's performance. He said he reviewed all the decisions made and he found that the referee got them all 100% correct. Specifically he mentioned the sending off of Vaughan, the Dublin free at the end of the first half where initially two Dublin players ran into each other (he said vaughan came in and gave the ref no choice) and finally on the penalty he said the ref definitely got it right as the foul began outside the box.
In fact he went on to say that the referee was "Brilliant" on the day, and the only mistake he could find was one made by the linesman near the end where Mayo got the sideline ball and it should have went to Dublin.
So thats that, the referee cannot be blamed so surely we now have to look at the inability of Mayo to win a match they could have won?" Joe McQuillan done umpire for Pat McEnaney on numerous occasions. so wouldn't pass much remarks to Pat.
shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 17/09/2017 19:42:30
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Forget the ref, Mayo fans should be most aggrieved at the Donal Vaughan incident. The moment of madness was the single biggest factor in Mayo losing that match in my own opinion.
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 17/09/2017 19:45:28
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Replying To doratheexplorer: "I can't believe there's Dubs whose first thoughts after winning an All Ireland are to go on a forum. Go out an enjoy it." Some of us don't drink or like the pub scene, is that ok?
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 17/09/2017 19:47:04
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Watched them all since the first one in 1887 have ye?" Cor blimey...luv a duck...any old iron....my old man's a dustman......jellied eels.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 17/09/2017 19:51:41
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This thread is a disgrace.
Fair play to Dublin on winning 3 in a row, mighty achievement.
Congratulations to the Dublin lads on here with the exception of one lad who's disgraceful comments regarding people from my county.
I wouldn't wish him congratulations after those comments.
Mayo had their chances in the last two summers but couldn't get over the line.
Wonderfully exciting finish to a championship that overall was poor.
Enjoy the celebrations remarkable achievement.
westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 17/09/2017 19:54:38
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Replying To doratheexplorer: "I can't believe there's Dubs whose first thoughts after winning an All Ireland are to go on a forum. Go out an enjoy it." Sure you're called after a Mexican girl with a talking backpack and a monkey! Only slagging like. Each to their own.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 17/09/2017 19:57:02
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