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In fairness to Eddie Brennan he said after their semi final whitewash of Derry, that the U-21 championship would be a perfect place to trial an open draw or some sort of a new championship structure, barring that Galway need to be included at both U-21 and minor level. Galway actually had an excellent team this year, but playing their first meaningful game of the year in an All Ireland semi final against a class outfit like Limerick was always going to be a big ask, yet they almost pulled it off. Galway probably would have won Leinster this year, and who knows what would have happened after that, but either way change is badly needed at underage level. Finally I don't agree with Loughnane, although he is right about the Leinster counties only looking after their own interests, which is somewhat understandable, but is still nothing more than parish pump politics. gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 12/09/2017 13:15:31 2045239 Link 1 |
Galway have won many U21 & minor titles over the years, the system has served Galway well. fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 12/09/2017 14:34:35 2045265 Link 0 |
Loughnane is a bit over dramatic. Kilkenny will always be strong. They still Hoover up Tony Forristals and schools ect. though they have way less schools than bigger counties. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 12/09/2017 14:55:51 2045271 Link 1 |
I would bet my house on Kilkenny winning another All-Ireland before Liam crosses the Shannon to either Limerick or Ger's native Clare! Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 12/09/2017 16:33:13 2045296 Link 0 |
I absolutely agree with you Pinkie. Neither Clare or Limerick have the intestinal fortitude to win the Liam McCarthy Cup. Limerick suffer from pure constipation in Croke Park. Joe Quaid was suffering so badly in 1994 he couldn't wait to puck out the ball after Johnny Dooley scored the Offaly free. It's at times like that when everything is going against you that the real men stand up. Hairy Harry. HairyHarry (Longford) - Posts: 14 - 12/09/2017 17:04:16 2045303 Link 0 |
Oh dear God...
skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 12/09/2017 17:17:30 2045308 Link 0 |
Don't mock. Hairy Harry knows his stuff ;) You could do with a laxative of sorts Skillet! Some people say hurling isn't very important in the scheme of things. But to hurling people hurling is the scheme of things. HairyHarry (Longford) - Posts: 14 - 12/09/2017 17:56:01 2045321 Link 0 |
You should speak for your own county. At least Limerick have two excellent U21 teams as a foundation for future success. One of those teams trounced Wexford in one of the finals. What happened in 1994 will have no relevance to the new emerging Limerick team. The future is bright for Limerick hurling. fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 12/09/2017 18:00:53 2045324 Link 0 |
Galway have been giving about their underage predicament for a long time. Even when we won competitions. We won minor this year in case you've forgotten. And two of the last three. Still not what people in Galway want. Player development with proper competition is more beneficial longterm. Winning a cup only playing potentially two games while asking young lads to train months for is not acceptable.
SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 589 - 12/09/2017 20:17:12 2045364 Link 0 |
It will though. It's hard to get rid of psychological baggage. Ask Waterford and Mayo. Hairy Harry. HairyHarry (Longford) - Posts: 14 - 12/09/2017 20:23:43 2045368 Link 0 |
It is just wishful thinking on your part, when will Longford emerge from its slumber?. The last time you won anything was the Leinster Football Final in 1968 but Kerry quickly put a stop to your gallop. In regard to Waterford & Mayo, it has nothing to do with psychology, they only happen to be the second best teams in the country which is not a bad position to occupy and Mayo might change that position on Sunday next to being the best football team in the country but again Hail Mary will be your answer to that. Those positions happen to be a lot better than around the 30th position that Longford occupy in Hurling & Football at present. With regard to Limerick, they have won two of the last three U21s in hurling so they have the best young talent in the country in hurling at present. With regard to winning the Liam McCarthy cup in 2018, 2019 & 2020, it is a matter of conjecture but the future is bright for Limerick hurling. fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 12/09/2017 21:34:31 2045402 Link 0 |
Where did I complain, I said that Galway were beaten by a classy Limerick team, so get your facts right. I'm complaining about a ridiculous system that has Galway training since Christmas, so that they can play one game in August, that is downright ridiculous and serves nobody. Yes they have won a few U-21s down through the years, but I guarantee that Galway would prefer meaningful games from May onwards.
gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 12/09/2017 21:49:43 2045406 Link 1 |
Such a long reply and i was only pulling your leg!! That's why Limerick will never win anything. Ye have no composure. You're as bad as Joe Quaid in 1994, reactionary rather than thoughtful. Longford is a great small county. Go on the Blacksmith of Ballinalee! Yours, Hairy Harry. HairyHarry (Longford) - Posts: 14 - 12/09/2017 22:51:07 2045441 Link 2 |
You're a cranky little Limerick fellow.. like Eamonn Cregan!!
HairyHarry (Longford) - Posts: 14 - 12/09/2017 22:52:21 2045443 Link 0 |
Yes gilly that was a fine Galway side and even after playing 3 games in Munster it took every thing we had to beat them Galway always produce them and I remember seeing the odds before the game and thinking how crazy is that. Galway have probably won some all irls in past cos of the rules but don't actually think it helped Galway hurling overall and this yr had they came thru say Leinster they'd have been even a sterner test for Limerick but the counter argument could be they also knew more about Limerick than we knew of them. I'd agree with the poster who suggests that Kk will get a few out of that team but overall I thought they'd be better someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 12/09/2017 23:22:39 2045460 Link 0 |
I must correct you there. Eamon Cregan is not little. Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 12/09/2017 23:28:36 2045465 Link 0 |
I was at KK v Galway minor semi and thought KK were very poor. However,was told in recent times by KK guy I meet regularly (and who knows his stuff) that KK's minor team this year were very poorly coached & managed. Moyle (Tipperary) - Posts: 86 - 13/09/2017 09:23:33 2045520 Link 0 |
Well that's my opinion based on the game performance of teams in the under 21 grade this year. Limerick are clearly number 1. I wouldn't look beyond Galway, Waterford and Cork for the next 3 spots based on how they performed. I thought Kilkenny were good in Leinster but didn't set the world on fire either. The Derry game was a complete Mis-match. If Kilkenny are 6th or 7th, then the rest of the Leinster teams are below that in the ranking. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/09/2017 17:53:34 2045725 Link 0 |
PS, the highest I would rank my own county is 5th. It's nothing personal against this Kilkenny team. I just think hurling folk had unrealistic expectations for the final just because the bunch of players were wearing black and amber jerseys. We should celebrate how good the Limerick team was and give the Kilkenny lads a break. In fairness to them they battled back well to get to within 2 points of Limerick in the 2nd half. Limerick vs Galway was a great game to watch in the semi final. Galway looked really good that day and pushed Limerick all the way. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/09/2017 17:57:40 2045727 Link 0 |
Kilkenny never went within two points of Limerick in the second half, they went within four points on one instance in the second half. fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 13/09/2017 18:20:04 2045742 Link 1 |