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The reason i'm posting so much lately is due to illness. Last year i had glandular fever, then pneumonia and recurring chest and throat infections. I was out of work for a long time. Went back in May but after 6 weeks was out sick with the same symptoms. I have an auto immune problem and can't exercise etc and on a fair few meds. That's why i'm on here so much. I'd prefer to be out exercising! I'm not getting a lot of answers and i'm fairly weak but PG things will pick up.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 29/08/2017 23:24:09
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My brother is over here this evening and was posting on the hurling threads on my laptop as his phone battery was low. So a post directed towards Medway and Damo will turn up under his account KK1926.
Incase anyone thinks i'm messing around, i forgot to log him off.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 29/08/2017 23:28:08
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First of all this Dublin team is one of the best since Tyrone and Kerry of the 00's. I think they have a long way to go to be even considered anywhere as good as Micko's Kerry team. They deserve their free car's and handy jobs the Kerry and Tyrone players of the 00's got them.
Dublin aren't successful because most of their games are in Croke Park
Dublin aren't successful because their players got fancy cars and a couple of free meals from Philly McMahon
Dublin aren't successful because they have a backroom team of 50+ people
They are successful because the the GAA gave them crazy funding to help get their house in order and no other county has seen funding like it.
Let me tell you a story all about how the GAA created a monster between 2006-2012 by funding Dublin left, right and centre. They pumped money into clubs and schools like there was no tomorrow. The underage Dublin development squads in that time had the best of everything. They had free access to certain gyms such as the college ones, recovery drinks and bags of protein were supplied for anyone who was part of the development squad that needed them. All lads had their gym sessions fitted to suit them and players at Minor level during that time had meals for after training. Dublin players had recovery sessions in swimming pools that were paid for by the Dublin County Board. Big clubs got grants to improve their facilities. There was plenty more as well. All this was paid for by the GAA over 10 years ago now Dublin have their own sponsorship deals which is fair enough but no other county got that sort of funding that Dublin got in that period. Give Meath that sort of funding for the next 6 years and we'll win another all Ireland.
The reason I will always consider Micko's Kerry team the greatest is because they had none of what Dublin at present or Kerry and Tyrone of the 00's had or even Meath of the 90's. I hope Mayo win Sam not for the sake of Football because they deserve one for coming back year after year.
UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 354 - 29/08/2017 23:30:46
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Replying To theblackcard: "If this post had been posted by a person from any other county; would it have got any slagging?
The fact remains he is right. 31 counties will be rooting for Mayo on the 3rd Sunday in the hope that we can buck the trend. And it's not just because people have pitty on Mayo; some do of course but their are those who will use the fight we bring to Dublin as a barometer to gauge their own potential.
Kerry will no doubt enter the frey once again in 12-24 months and replace Mayo as the main contender; but until then other counties may be offered the faintest glimmer of hope if we pull off the impossible." Very peculiar post for a Mayoman. Whether we win or lose on the 17th we're not keeping the seat warm for anyone. We'd like to emulate the success of the Dubs for ourselves. We'd like to be admired for our football but resented for our success. Popularity is overrated and unfulfilling.
Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 29/08/2017 23:40:22
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Replying To UsernameInvalid: "First of all this Dublin team is one of the best since Tyrone and Kerry of the 00's. I think they have a long way to go to be even considered anywhere as good as Micko's Kerry team. They deserve their free car's and handy jobs the Kerry and Tyrone players of the 00's got them.
Dublin aren't successful because most of their games are in Croke Park
Dublin aren't successful because their players got fancy cars and a couple of free meals from Philly McMahon
Dublin aren't successful because they have a backroom team of 50+ people
They are successful because the the GAA gave them crazy funding to help get their house in order and no other county has seen funding like it.
Let me tell you a story all about how the GAA created a monster between 2006-2012 by funding Dublin left, right and centre. They pumped money into clubs and schools like there was no tomorrow. The underage Dublin development squads in that time had the best of everything. They had free access to certain gyms such as the college ones, recovery drinks and bags of protein were supplied for anyone who was part of the development squad that needed them. All lads had their gym sessions fitted to suit them and players at Minor level during that time had meals for after training. Dublin players had recovery sessions in swimming pools that were paid for by the Dublin County Board. Big clubs got grants to improve their facilities. There was plenty more as well. All this was paid for by the GAA over 10 years ago now Dublin have their own sponsorship deals which is fair enough but no other county got that sort of funding that Dublin got in that period. Give Meath that sort of funding for the next 6 years and we'll win another all Ireland.
The reason I will always consider Micko's Kerry team the greatest is because they had none of what Dublin at present or Kerry and Tyrone of the 00's had or even Meath of the 90's. I hope Mayo win Sam not for the sake of Football because they deserve one for coming back year after year." Ok. From 2006-2012 huge amounts of money were pumped into underage, clubs and schools. Well Kerry weren't receiving anything like this money i presume?
Yet they've won the last 3 minor all irelands and are odds on to win this years? The Dublin minor team of 2017 would have been part of these excellent development squads, got their protein shakes, had dinner after training.. Derry beat them on Sunday. The U17 final was contested by Tyrone and Roscommon.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 29/08/2017 23:44:37
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Replying To UsernameInvalid: "First of all this Dublin team is one of the best since Tyrone and Kerry of the 00's. I think they have a long way to go to be even considered anywhere as good as Micko's Kerry team. They deserve their free car's and handy jobs the Kerry and Tyrone players of the 00's got them.
Dublin aren't successful because most of their games are in Croke Park
Dublin aren't successful because their players got fancy cars and a couple of free meals from Philly McMahon
Dublin aren't successful because they have a backroom team of 50+ people
They are successful because the the GAA gave them crazy funding to help get their house in order and no other county has seen funding like it.
Let me tell you a story all about how the GAA created a monster between 2006-2012 by funding Dublin left, right and centre. They pumped money into clubs and schools like there was no tomorrow. The underage Dublin development squads in that time had the best of everything. They had free access to certain gyms such as the college ones, recovery drinks and bags of protein were supplied for anyone who was part of the development squad that needed them. All lads had their gym sessions fitted to suit them and players at Minor level during that time had meals for after training. Dublin players had recovery sessions in swimming pools that were paid for by the Dublin County Board. Big clubs got grants to improve their facilities. There was plenty more as well. All this was paid for by the GAA over 10 years ago now Dublin have their own sponsorship deals which is fair enough but no other county got that sort of funding that Dublin got in that period. Give Meath that sort of funding for the next 6 years and we'll win another all Ireland.
The reason I will always consider Micko's Kerry team the greatest is because they had none of what Dublin at present or Kerry and Tyrone of the 00's had or even Meath of the 90's. I hope Mayo win Sam not for the sake of Football because they deserve one for coming back year after year." And incase you say i've the time frame wrong it's 2006-2012.
Take 2010-2012. The U12, U14 and U16 squads of these 3 years comprised the minors of 2014-2016. Kerry won the all-ireland minors these years. Kildare Leinster. Argument shipping water.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 29/08/2017 23:49:01
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Replying To Laois76: "The reason i'm posting so much lately is due to illness. Last year i had glandular fever, then pneumonia and recurring chest and throat infections. I was out of work for a long time. Went back in May but after 6 weeks was out sick with the same symptoms. I have an auto immune problem and can't exercise etc and on a fair few meds. That's why i'm on here so much. I'd prefer to be out exercising! I'm not getting a lot of answers and i'm fairly weak but PG things will pick up." Good health to you
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/08/2017 23:49:56
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Replying To theblackcard: "If this post had been posted by a person from any other county; would it have got any slagging?
The fact remains he is right. 31 counties will be rooting for Mayo on the 3rd Sunday in the hope that we can buck the trend. And it's not just because people have pitty on Mayo; some do of course but their are those who will use the fight we bring to Dublin as a barometer to gauge their own potential.
Kerry will no doubt enter the frey once again in 12-24 months and replace Mayo as the main contender; but until then other counties may be offered the faintest glimmer of hope if we pull off the impossible." It doesn't matter if Mayo get lucky enough to win this year because these Dubs will breeze through Leinster next year again and will at least be in the semis again to see if anybody can compete with them.
seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 30/08/2017 03:33:02
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Replying To Laois76: "Ok. From 2006-2012 huge amounts of money were pumped into underage, clubs and schools. Well Kerry weren't receiving anything like this money i presume?
Yet they've won the last 3 minor all irelands and are odds on to win this years? The Dublin minor team of 2017 would have been part of these excellent development squads, got their protein shakes, had dinner after training.. Derry beat them on Sunday. The U17 final was contested by Tyrone and Roscommon." My son has just spent five years on Dublin development squad hurling , one year dual this year with footballers , not one protein shake ever I mean ever. I have no reason to lie , they are given diet sheets to take home , up to me and the missus to purchase the recommended foods , up to him to follow the diet. I have spent a fortunate travelling from Antrim to Cork from Waterford to Galway for the last five years and met many parents were we swapped stories , I found none of the counties we played to be lacking in strength and conditioning , facilities etc bar possibly Offaly , I say this as the poster started out stating let me tell you a story and that he's done , it's a miss mash of truths designed to startle , it's also poor in insight into developments squads and preparations countywide
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 30/08/2017 08:47:52
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Replying To Laois76: "Ok. From 2006-2012 huge amounts of money were pumped into underage, clubs and schools. Well Kerry weren't receiving anything like this money i presume?
Yet they've won the last 3 minor all irelands and are odds on to win this years? The Dublin minor team of 2017 would have been part of these excellent development squads, got their protein shakes, had dinner after training.. Derry beat them on Sunday. The U17 final was contested by Tyrone and Roscommon." Exactly.... well said.
Also, Kerry have been very heavily funded since the 80's - did they not at one time have a sponsorship deal with Adidas for their kit..
They even raised nearly 1million on a trip to the US recently. So there is no shortage of money there.
By the way, where were all the cry's for Kilkenny to be split or funding cut when they were winning 16 Leinsters in 19 years, 11 Liam McCarthy's in 16 years.
Kilkenny get funding for Football and Hurling - when is the last time you saw a Kilkenny Inter County Football team...
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3724 - 30/08/2017 08:48:14
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Replying To Pericles: "Very peculiar post for a Mayoman. Whether we win or lose on the 17th we're not keeping the seat warm for anyone. We'd like to emulate the success of the Dubs for ourselves. We'd like to be admired for our football but resented for our success. Popularity is overrated and unfulfilling." Peculiar or pragmatic. People need to call a spade a spade. Everyone knows this is an exceptional Mayo team; unfortunately its been in an era when Dublin have come with arguably the greatest team of all time . In any other era they would have going for their 4-5th All Ireland. I'm not saying Mayo will be keeping seats warm but the fact remains we haven't had much success at underage so where are the replacements going to come from in few years.
theblackcard (Mayo) - Posts: 47 - 30/08/2017 08:49:58
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Mayo and Sam is a bit like Ross and Rachel on Friends, will they ever get it on?!
Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 775 - 30/08/2017 09:04:33
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Replying To jimbodub: "Good health to you" Thanks very much Jimbo.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 30/08/2017 10:31:59
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Replying To Laois76: "My brother is over here this evening and was posting on the hurling threads on my laptop as his phone battery was low. So a post directed towards Medway and Damo will turn up under his account KK1926.
Incase anyone thinks i'm messing around, i forgot to log him off." Not a problem bud and all the best in your battle against the various illnesses you listed. Keep putting one metaphorical foot in front the other and keep posting............as I've said before this forum is effectively an electronic version of care in the community and it's keeping us all out of the rain :)
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 30/08/2017 10:32:54
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Replying To Damothedub: "My son has just spent five years on Dublin development squad hurling , one year dual this year with footballers , not one protein shake ever I mean ever. I have no reason to lie , they are given diet sheets to take home , up to me and the missus to purchase the recommended foods , up to him to follow the diet. I have spent a fortunate travelling from Antrim to Cork from Waterford to Galway for the last five years and met many parents were we swapped stories , I found none of the counties we played to be lacking in strength and conditioning , facilities etc bar possibly Offaly , I say this as the poster started out stating let me tell you a story and that he's done , it's a miss mash of truths designed to startle , it's also poor in insight into developments squads and preparations countywide" Best of luck to your son in his career Damo.
The Laois chaps would be given the same advice re. diet, starting strength and conditioning etc. As you say like most counties. Laois and Dublin played a cracking U17 game recently and the result was something like 1-13 to 1-11 to Dublin. If that poster was right Laois would have been blown away.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 30/08/2017 10:35:41
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Replying To MedwayIrish: "Not a problem bud and all the best in your battle against the various illnesses you listed. Keep putting one metaphorical foot in front the other and keep posting............as I've said before this forum is effectively an electronic version of care in the community and it's keeping us all out of the rain :)" Thanks Medway.
Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 30/08/2017 10:41:11
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Replying To Fionn: "Exactly.... well said.
Also, Kerry have been very heavily funded since the 80's - did they not at one time have a sponsorship deal with Adidas for their kit..
They even raised nearly 1million on a trip to the US recently. So there is no shortage of money there.
By the way, where were all the cry's for Kilkenny to be split or funding cut when they were winning 16 Leinsters in 19 years, 11 Liam McCarthy's in 16 years.
Kilkenny get funding for Football and Hurling - when is the last time you saw a Kilkenny Inter County Football team..." Sponsorship is as old as the hills. Anyone remember the furore in 1985 over the Bendix Washing machine sponsorship?!
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Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 30/08/2017 10:43:30
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Replying To Laois76: "Thanks very much Jimbo." You're welcome - all the very best to you.
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 30/08/2017 10:46:45
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Replying To theblackcard: "Peculiar or pragmatic. People need to call a spade a spade. Everyone knows this is an exceptional Mayo team; unfortunately its been in an era when Dublin have come with arguably the greatest team of all time . In any other era they would have going for their 4-5th All Ireland. I'm not saying Mayo will be keeping seats warm but the fact remains we haven't had much success at underage so where are the replacements going to come from in few years." Minors in 2013, U21s in 2016. Underage success is no guarantee of senior success though.
We were losing finals before this great Dublin team were around and Donegal and Kerry managed two wins in this golden era. You and me are biased. We know we have a great Mayo team. But great teams are judged by how many All Ireland they have won. I think we'll beat Dublin but I'm biased. If we win or lose it won't improve or regress football in any other county. They have to do that themselves. No team is unbeatable but that's not why I think we'll win. Tactics, unpredictability, defensive setups, experience of winning All Irelands is massively important. I think everyone in our squad will believe on the day that they're going to win. Arguably that wasn't the case for other finals. And every single one of them hates losing. So I don't expect a freeflowing game. I think it'll be a bad-tempered low scoring game.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 30/08/2017 10:57:58
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I have a simple question for the people bashing the Dubs on here What are they supposed to do Lose to Laois or maybe for the craic Louth Ok they do have an advantage They have a huge population to draw from Is that their fault
cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 30/08/2017 11:15:16
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