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Dublin v Mayo. Who will win the 2017 All Ireland football final?

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Replying To poguemahone: "I've just watch the game again and can't see how you got the opinion on Connolly. DC was big influence in calming Dublin down and was the play maker we lacked in the first half. His ball retention was fantastic. He has great ability to solo in tight spaces. Don't recall him over carrying. Possible on the point he got when the ref was giving advantage for several fouls against him (in which case Rock wouldn't have missed the free)" So Connolly didn't over carry, eh? No harm done though - it only led to a point, same margin they won by. At 1:04. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMMxm-DfAE marooney (Galway) - Posts: 88 - 18/09/2017 21:21:36 2047723 Link
Replying To El_Torro: "I don't know where I read it last wk but the jist of the article was that in Mayo it's ok to be a loser, that's why they aren't driven enough to win, getting beaten repeatedly like this would not go down well in the likes of Kerry, but in Mayo all you hear is 'ah sure weren't the great though all the same' they weren't great, they lost again, end of." Other county posters having a pop at Mayo is bewildering considering all other teams wilted and got hammmered out the gate by Dublin. (at their leisure) Your in no position to question Mayo or the management an other countys should follow the blueprint set out by Mayo in order to stop them. Can Ulster leave the 00s and step into 2018 ? Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 18/09/2017 21:22:27 2047724 Link
Replying To El_Torro: "I don't know where I read it last wk but the jist of the article was that in Mayo it's ok to be a loser, that's why they aren't driven enough to win, getting beaten repeatedly like this would not go down well in the likes of Kerry, but in Mayo all you hear is 'ah sure weren't the great though all the same' they weren't great, they lost again, end of." Tell you what though, and this is a Galway man speaking, they can hold their heads a lot higher than your county men this year after the spineless 'performance' they delivered against Dublin. Was even worse than what our lot served up a couple of times this year. marooney (Galway) - Posts: 88 - 18/09/2017 21:28:13 2047732 Link
Replying To poguemahone: "Such awful whining and bitterness.. ... We love our team, we love our All Irelands and we'll suppot the boys in blue for ever more. All that matters to us a chara." I don't think anyone in Mayo is begrudging the Dubs. A titanic struggle that could have gone either way and tho we're devastated at the moment we can give credit to Dublin, a fantastic team and surprisingly according to some ye only put 15 men out against 15 every time. Congrats to dublin and ignore all the flak and enjoy the win and hopefully we'll dethrone ye next year. Slan. ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 647 - 18/09/2017 21:37:01 2047739 Link
Replying To essmac: "Both incidents were frontal shoulders. How is one red and one yellow?" Vaughan's was a frontal charge was it? Go get your eyes checked. (Clothesline)Also Vaughan's offence happened when play had stopped . Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 18/09/2017 21:50:50 2047747 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Never said he would have scored it. And to be clear I'm not taking away from dubs victory, over 70+ mins they were the better team just. But it was a penalty, even if it had been scored I'd say dubs probably would still have won. But it was a penalty all day long. Of that their is no denying." it wasn't a penalty. End of. The challenge on Rock for his fisted point was more a penalty - Would Mayo Joe have given it if Rock missed the point??? Keegan should have been sent off after continuously fouling his man even after his yellow and AOS should have been black carded. Moran took far too many steps in the lead up to Keegan's goal. Poor game from McQuillan. dubdec99 (Dublin) - Posts: 180 - 18/09/2017 22:03:44 2047760 Link
Replying To dubdec99: "it wasn't a penalty. End of. The challenge on Rock for his fisted point was more a penalty - Would Mayo Joe have given it if Rock missed the point??? Keegan should have been sent off after continuously fouling his man even after his yellow and AOS should have been black carded. Moran took far too many steps in the lead up to Keegan's goal. Poor game from McQuillan." The system is broken. Dublin should be winning every second all-ireland as a minimum going forward. Dublin winning 3 in a row is a lesser achievement than mayo winning 1. Why should we be surprised. Jim Gavin has figured out how to play his hand that was always stacked. 1: population - a simple division of population suggests dublin should be winning over 40% of all titles. 2: Home Advantage = home advantage statistics stand true across all sports 3: Money = Abilty to generate money stacked appreciably in dublins favor 4: Science = Access to well funded universities sitting right on their doorstep 5:grant aid from croker = Dublin top these charts year in year out 6: Player sponsorship = Easier to attend events close to dublin. more tv games, more popularity easier to market 7: travel time to training= how many dubs are currently living outside their county compared to others The above list is not exhaustive. But in fairness, over the course of time Dublin have underachieved and I am certainly not amazed by the 3 in a row considering all the cards are in their favor. Jim Gavin has just learned the right way to play them!! quicksand (Down) - Posts: 7 - 18/09/2017 22:12:19 2047770 Link
Replying To Marse: "Vaughan's was a frontal charge was it? Go get your eyes checked. (Clothesline)Also Vaughan's offence happened when play had stopped ." Red all day long. He has no excuse and will have to live with this for a very long time. Possible game changer but we will never know. Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 18/09/2017 22:38:07 2047791 Link
Replying To quicksand: "The system is broken. Dublin should be winning every second all-ireland as a minimum going forward. Dublin winning 3 in a row is a lesser achievement than mayo winning 1. Why should we be surprised. Jim Gavin has figured out how to play his hand that was always stacked. 1: population - a simple division of population suggests dublin should be winning over 40% of all titles. 2: Home Advantage = home advantage statistics stand true across all sports 3: Money = Abilty to generate money stacked appreciably in dublins favor 4: Science = Access to well funded universities sitting right on their doorstep 5:grant aid from croker = Dublin top these charts year in year out 6: Player sponsorship = Easier to attend events close to dublin. more tv games, more popularity easier to market 7: travel time to training= how many dubs are currently living outside their county compared to others The above list is not exhaustive. But in fairness, over the course of time Dublin have underachieved and I am certainly not amazed by the 3 in a row considering all the cards are in their favor. Jim Gavin has just learned the right way to play them!!" Population eh , new york and london should be winning every championship so... bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 18/09/2017 22:48:28 2047798 Link
Replying To Vishred: "Red all day long. He has no excuse and will have to live with this for a very long time. Possible game changer but we will never know." Maybe Dubs have some big wins under their belt playing with only 14 men Sometimes even with one legged crippled men still on the pitch jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/09/2017 22:50:48 2047799 Link
A great game, and I couldn't be more proud of Dublin. To edge such a strong, imposing and talented team like Mayo in such a titanic game will live long in the memory. Not that yesterday changed anything other than to affirm what we already knew, but Mayo are some team. In particular their running, skill and insatiable appetite for battle - it's nothing but admirable. I'm convinced they'll win their all Ireland yet, as they're very close to Dublin's level as it is - whilst improving year on year - and they'll be back to dethrone us next year. The battles between these tems from 2006 to 2017 underline the rivalry between us both. Every game has been enthralling, tight and utterly absorbing. The two best teams of his era, I know Donegal and Kerry have won an all Ireland a piece, but this Mayo team are better than them both for me. Anyway, I know the good folk of Mayo will be hurting badly for a while yet, but just remember, just like us in Dublin, you's have a mighty once in a lifetime team at present, and they'll keep doing you's proud in the future im Sure. Here's to 2018 and another titanic between us. Gwandadubs (Dublin) - Posts: 1 - 18/09/2017 23:23:05 2047821 Link
Some amount of drivel on this forum. It was such a close game between two evenly matched sides. Dublin were not at their best but they still managed to win and that is such an admirable trait. I thought James McCarthy was really outstanding as was Dean Rock and Paul Mannion. Mayo played so well and were just so unlucky. I must say I love this Mayo side. Surely they will get a lucky break some time in an All Ireland final. It would have been such a boring championship without Mayo, we should be celebrating them rather than slagging them off. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 18/09/2017 23:51:27 2047832 Link
Before the game Rochford went to talk to Vaughan about the changes Dublin had made, the RTE panel commenting on what a smart man Vaughan is, there is something weird about this Mayo team, something struck me as funny about it at the time (and no it wasn't Keegans gps) maybe they are cursed somehow. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 18/09/2017 23:52:17 2047833 Link
I think that people should remember Dublin lost their most effective player in the first few minutes. The more I look at this game, and what Mayo brought to the table, the more I think this was a remarkable win. We are a great side, and so are Mayo. Flies in the face that we are champions because the competition is poor. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 18/09/2017 23:53:23 2047834 Link
Replying To Vishred: "Red all day long. He has no excuse and will have to live with this for a very long time. Possible game changer but we will never know." Possible? Mayo would have had 15 v 14, reckless crazy thing to do and play was stopped at the time. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 18/09/2017 23:55:57 2047836 Link
Replying To El_Torro: "I don't know where I read it last wk but the jist of the article was that in Mayo it's ok to be a loser, that's why they aren't driven enough to win, getting beaten repeatedly like this would not go down well in the likes of Kerry, but in Mayo all you hear is 'ah sure weren't the great though all the same' they weren't great, they lost again, end of." Your own county produced the most spineless, pathetic performance of the entire championship in the semi-final. I certainly saw no evidence of any "drive to win" from Mickey Harte and his players. They were well beaten before the ball was thrown-in and didn't even try to compete. As if that was not bad enough, Sean Cavanagh spent the next two weeks making excuses and going on about how all of the Dublin players were just too fit, too fast, too strong and too good. Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 19/09/2017 00:12:30 2047839 Link
Fact of the matter is, This IS the best Mayo team since their last AI victory in 51. Absolutely incredible attitude, But they came up and have consistently come up against a Dublin team who just don't know how to lose anymore. They are immense. We are the greatest GAA team of modern time. Each and every single one of them players and management team are credit to themselves, their family, friends, clubs, city and county. I love all of them to death. Their humility and graciousness in victory, no words can describe. Their class is not in doubt. The time they have for their supporters, awh listen, I could go on all night, History makers, Legends, fuckin, legends. All of them. They make us all sohappy. Spent the day with them today, Guinness flowing, A beautiful memory that will live with me til I take my last breath. Special lads, Special. Thanks so much. for youre efforts again, No matter what happens between now and the end of time, This Dublin team are a joy to behold, A once in a generation side. We didn't play great yesterday, but we deserved to win. People talked about us not being "tested", People where lining up and will continue to line up to take us down a peg or two and kick us when we are down, they will try take as much credit away from these fellas as they possibly can. There are people who will be absolutely sickened by our recent achievements and wont ever fully appreciate the magnitude of what this group of men have done. 1 Defeat between league and championship since March 2015. Its terrific, But even yesterday again going back to it, Our hunger was questioned, Weve won so many recently, Mayo hadn't won any in 67 years, how could we have the hunger people asked, And YET AGAIN, Like we keep on doing, despite playing very poorly against the best Mayo team of a generation, we continue to pull it out of the fire. The whole country was against us, willing Mayo over the line, very few people on this island wanted Dublin to emerge victorious yesterday, And we almost, ALMOST let Mayo and the others have their moment of jubilation, To show the character, the guts, the balls, the attitude and the hunger that so many people CONTINUE to question about this bunch of fellas and to come out on top in another 1 point all Ireland final, Is just, well, Kerry 2011 aside, its by far the sweetest, most memorable one yet. Dublin wont get the credit they deserve while they remain successful, and to be honest, I wouldn't expect anything less, But among this Dublin fanbase, These guys are kings, And yeno what, When all settles down in the winter months and team and fans take a break and go back to clubs, when it all starts again in January, you better believe the hunger from all concerned will be ravenous. We aren't going anywhere yet. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 19/09/2017 01:57:54 2047863 Link
Replying To dubdec99: "it wasn't a penalty. End of. The challenge on Rock for his fisted point was more a penalty - Would Mayo Joe have given it if Rock missed the point??? Keegan should have been sent off after continuously fouling his man even after his yellow and AOS should have been black carded. Moran took far too many steps in the lead up to Keegan's goal. Poor game from McQuillan." This rubbish again from both fans, only seeing what they want to see. McMahon and Cooper should have walked for their constant fouling off the ball if that's the case. Keegan is such an easy target it's a joke at this stage. He puts the best players in the country in his pocket and the only thing people from the opposing county can say is constantly fouling. He isn't, and you are lying if you say that statement. You can't constantly foul throughout a game in a position that he plays. Same rubbish was said last year. I watched them closely on Sunday as I did last year when he marked Connolly. He literally stands so close to them no matter where they run they aren't even a short handpass option. Does he foul them during the game. Yep probably 3 or 4 times. Same as they do to him. People only see what they want to see. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 19/09/2017 06:13:42 2047878 Link
Replying To ponga: "I don't think anyone in Mayo is begrudging the Dubs. A titanic struggle that could have gone either way and tho we're devastated at the moment we can give credit to Dublin, a fantastic team and surprisingly according to some ye only put 15 men out against 15 every time. Congrats to dublin and ignore all the flak and enjoy the win and hopefully we'll dethrone ye next year. Slan." No absolutely, mayo fans were great. Tough game to lose after such an epic battle but heard no complaints afterwards. The usual ifs and buts discussions ye get after games but no complaining. The bitterness and disrespect comes from these random folk who will foam at the mouth when it comes to any topic involving Dublin. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 19/09/2017 08:39:04 2047892 Link
Congrats to Dublin on winning 3 in a row. Devestation for us again but we keep going. Roll on 2018. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 19/09/2017 10:26:57 2047932 Link