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The reason we were so successful in 2012 is because McGuinness did what he had to do. Namely, he ran the campaign like a business. we got loads of financial help those few years that helped massively. He has written this himself and makes no apology for it. The alternative was not being able to compete with those who were running like businesses.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 28/08/2017 15:37:36 2039420 Link 0 |
Since 2011 only 4 teams have qualified for All Ireland Final and one of those, Donegal, is no longer at that level. I'm sure Kerry will come again but it's hard to see them winning an All Ireland in the next 2 to 3 years from their current level. Mayo, I'm afraid, are probably going to go down as the greatest team never to win an All Ireland. I think Dublin's only enemy is hunger and the temptation of a 5 in a row should keep them going. If they hadn't have taken their eye off the ball against Donegal in 2014, they would be going for a 5 in a row now. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 28/08/2017 16:02:44 2039429 Link 0 |
We appointed a new coach last week. We are not doing 'managers' any more. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 28/08/2017 18:00:20 2039494 Link 0 |
really no excuses for cork not to be up there..regularly good at underage and huge base of players
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 28/08/2017 18:18:17 2039512 Link 0 |
Yesterday's game made me despair for the future of Gaelic Football AgainstTheOdds (Kerry) - Posts: 47 - 28/08/2017 18:32:23 2039526 Link 0 |
Yesterday was the death of the mass defence as a tactic that could win you the All Ireland. Who knows how Tyrone would've done had they been setup differently. Tyrone have no plan B, Dublin took their plan A to the cleaners, there's not much more to be said. If a team set up wrong its very hard to correct it in game. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 28/08/2017 18:44:16 2039539 Link 0 |
I agree. We started this decade ahead of Dublin but now we are miles off the pace. It's depressing. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 28/08/2017 18:50:59 2039542 Link 0 |
Remember a few years ago when I started making the threads about how Dublin dominance was killing leinster as a province. Well I have to say I'm enjoying seeing them dominate on a national level now too. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 28/08/2017 19:36:21 2039564 Link 1 |
for goodness sake will you stop going on about tyrone setting up the wrong way. They did not get the individual performances they needed yesterday, and they had to play to their strengths. Tyrone are an ordinary amateur team unlike their opponents. yesterday had nothing to do with tactics...address the real issue here
mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 28/08/2017 20:14:18 2039589 Link 0 |
football comes in cycles. tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 28/08/2017 20:50:17 2039602 Link 0 |
Wtf are you talking about that's my first post saying they set up the wrong way. They clearly did. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 28/08/2017 20:56:40 2039604 Link 0 |
Agree with this, GAA is run by administrators who have no clue how to manage it properly.
opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 500 - 28/08/2017 21:01:14 2039609 Link 0 |
Coming from a smaller county, it's a depressing sight to see how the Dubs won at a canter yesterday. But I have to say they are a joy to watch, so comfortable on the ball, protecting it like their life depends on it and making good choices. They have a deep understanding of how their gameplay works. Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 28/08/2017 21:23:37 2039630 Link 0 |
Thats not the case at all There is hardly anyone starting now on that was on the 2001/13 teams If you look at the great Kerry, Cork,Tyrone, Meath teams from the 80's onwards the players had to be in the starting XV for a lot longer as there wasn't the depth to replace them so effortlessly. The frightening reality is this Dublin is actually in transition as we speak and they are utterly dominant AgainstTheOdds (Kerry) - Posts: 47 - 28/08/2017 21:34:43 2039643 Link 0 |
Tyrone would have beaten anyone else in the country bar Mayo If they played more open they'd have lost even more comprehensively. If Mayo don't win this year and I don't feel they will there is nothing stopping Dublin putting 6,7 even 8 in a row as there is nobody out there that will compete with them. AgainstTheOdds (Kerry) - Posts: 47 - 28/08/2017 21:37:28 2039644 Link 0 |
I believe a lot of lads had two posts already wrote ready to go , Dublin win we go with the likes of this , Dublin lose we go with overated gym monkeys , lucky to beat Mayo last year etc etc the reactions kneejerk to the fore both both sad and predictable, I said we would dominate a few years ago because of the calibre of player we had , this year in both codes we entered minor and under 17 teams and didn't deliver , when certain Dublin players go we will come back to the pack , but while we are ahead to watch this panic end is nigh from my country cousins is hilarious, having a very enjoyable time while I can watching you squirm full in the knowledge nothing lasts forever , just a quick question any of you bother to go back over the threads when we were beaten by Kerry in the league ???? Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 28/08/2017 21:39:50 2039645 Link 1 |
A lot of the team have changed but a crumb of hope is that Cluxton is nearly 36. He could go on for years yet but whoever eventually replaces him will almost certainly not be as good as him, and he is a vital cog in the team.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 28/08/2017 21:48:33 2039657 Link 0 |
Donald Og believes its time for an Ulster hurling team, maybe its also time for an Ulster football team Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 28/08/2017 21:50:34 2039659 Link 0 |
I would put Meath 87-91 ahead of Tyrone 03-08
oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 28/08/2017 21:56:38 2039670 Link 1 |
Yes dublin have a great crop of players now. In the 70s and early 80s kerry and dublin dominated and there looked to be no end in sight. But then the late 80s it was meath and cork early 90s all the ulster teams. Late 90s galway and meath. The noughties kerry and tyrone. The begining of this decade cork and donegal won all irelands.now its dublins turn to dominate. And if mayo would quit shooting themselfs in the foot they would have an all ireland or maybe two. The problem is the gaa needs a some vision and strong management to change the championship structure that hundred years ago was fit purpose but no longer is. tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 28/08/2017 22:31:02 2039694 Link 1 |