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A question I ask on the back of some of the selections / tactics made yesterday along with those used in games previously. Eamon Sweeney listed out some of these decisions: keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 21/08/2017 10:17:40 2035860 Link 0 |
I cant understand some off his substitute decisions either. Was Colm Boyle injured yesterday? Also Taking off Andy Moran vs Galway after he kicked a point. is he trying to be too clever? mon (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 21/08/2017 10:36:30 2035870 Link 0 |
Stephen Rochford is an All Ireland Winning manager. To say he's not calling the shots is very odd. GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 21/08/2017 10:47:09 2035877 Link 0 |
Well you only have to go back to the goalkeeper decision in the All Ireland final replay last year. Did he make that decision or was that forced on him by the players?
keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 21/08/2017 11:06:45 2035884 Link 0 |
link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 21/08/2017 11:20:52 2035897 Link 0 |
Why do people complain about Boyle coming off all the time Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 21/08/2017 11:29:44 2035905 Link 0 |
That's fair enough GnR I do think there is a fine line though between making a gutsy decision and sticking to it than making a bad decision in the hope that it works out eventually Mayo's resilience is their strongest trait and I think that came before Rochford. Like you say, what do we know about football management and coaching but even from the comfort of your couch you'd have to wonder why he persisted with Aidan O'Shea at full back At the same time, Rochford has tried it now and has a better idea of how that tactic works keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 21/08/2017 11:34:42 2035909 Link 0 |
Damned if he does damned if he doesn't. If you look at all of his decisions in isolation: Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1824 - 21/08/2017 11:35:54 2035910 Link 2 |
It looks like he's still playing well at times and we should leave him on even if he's tiring. But managers know what they're at, we're just keyboard drivers. Was overdue to bring Paddy Durcan in though so I'm delighted they did.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 21/08/2017 11:43:24 2035916 Link 0 |
David Clark showed in the first half exactly why he was dropped for the all Ireland final replay last year his distribution is shockingly poor although he's a good shot stopper in fairness to him. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 21/08/2017 11:50:40 2035923 Link 1 |
I'd bet my money on that being Rochford's decision, to me I don't see the problem - as a previous poster said he's got the balls to back his own decisions and that alone gets him my respect too. Nobody really knows the full story on that one. I think Rochford would walk if any of that carry on was really going on. Mayo are just the easy media target in my opinion - slow week? Sure Mayo will fill up that page. GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 21/08/2017 11:50:55 2035924 Link 2 |
I don't blame O'Shea here, he's as much of a defender as Any Moran or Cillian O'Connor are midfielders. With Donaghy setting up scores and Kerry not looking to pump high ball in well before the end of the first half wasn't a swap made. Surely, then is the time to switch someone like Vaughan across to him and let Aidan move further upfield where he could ask questions of a very dodgy looking Kerry defense. kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 504 - 21/08/2017 11:55:11 2035928 Link 2 |
Andy Moran and cillian O'Connor in midfield? Don't be giving rochford ideas will you :-)
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 21/08/2017 12:00:15 2035935 Link 0 |
That article you have linked there is an absolute disgrace and who ever the journalist is that wrote it should be ashamed of himself. James Horan and Connelly/Holmes management were criticized by the likes of him and Joe Brolly for not setting up to protect there defence and for going with the same personnel all the time like Cafferkey on Donaghy and not doing anything to change it. Rochford makes the brave and in my opinion right decision to give Mayo the best chance of winning the game and still gets slaughtered for it. If he had set up like Horan did in 2014 with no protection for full back line and had Keegan, Boyle and Higgins bombing forward all day and Donaghy causing havoc inside Mayo would have been beaten yesterday no question. He is doing a brilliant job with a team that has been through a lot in the last seven years and he has still managed to get them into the All Ireland Final last year and a kick off a ball away from winning it after a run through the qualifiers and again this year through the qualifiers and one game away from an all Ireland final after another draw! If other counties had half the runs mayo have had the past two years they would be delighted!
BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 921 - 21/08/2017 12:32:15 2035969 Link 6 |
He has a Mayo team that's a long time on the road going very well.He must deserve credit for that. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2141 - 21/08/2017 12:42:07 2035972 Link 1 |
Have to say Mayo got it right yesterday with O'Shea , the amount of long balls that were not tried by Kerry yesterday because he was there is forgotten about. he is the most mobile of all there midfielders so he was the #1 choice. as for the comment on rochord not being in control nobody can say that O'Shea put his hand up to play there he did as he was told , and if mayo won by a point Brolly and the likes would be talking about the O'Shea master stroke. ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 21/08/2017 13:57:52 2036020 Link 0 |
Rochford is doing a good job and of course he's in charge. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 21/08/2017 14:03:47 2036024 Link 0 |
i think it would be more important from a mayo perspective to get Lee Keegan at full tilt next week. if Lee had been at his best yesterday Mayo would have won imo. Colm Boyle coming off does seem like an odd move however there were reasons and in fairness he was replaced with another outstanding player who took nothing from the teams performance. I do think however that Mayo should consider bringing Boyle back on with 5 minutes to go after hes refueled and rested. People might say whats the point or where do you put him etc but he'll give it hell for those last 10 minutes or so and poor rochford could finally get credit for a master stroke for a change theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 21/08/2017 14:34:54 2036039 Link 1 |
You would think Vaughan would be the man to mark Donaghy. Brolly said Mayo needed to 'go to war on Donaghy' - well, moving O'Shea onto him would seem to be answering that call. Rochfort & Fitzmaurice are both overthinking the tactics, in my opinion. Robbing Peter to pay Paul instead of letting players play their more natural style. They'll both probably go back to basics for the replay. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/08/2017 14:53:39 2036051 Link 0 |
It's obviously planned, in agreement with Boyle, that he give it everything for fifty or so minutes and that he will then be replaced. It seems sensible as he would have to 'save' himself if he was to try to see out 75 or 80 minutes. It allows him to really take the game to the opposition and have a strong influence on the procedings knowing that when he tires he will be called ashore.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 21/08/2017 15:00:10 2036053 Link 0 |