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Replying To juniorjudge: "well i suppose this will open up a can of worms with my galway friends but its not meant to. Adrian Touhy was highlighted on the sunday game for the helmet related incident with bonnar yesterday. im really not sure if many people saw it at the time? there was no mention of it by the commentators...but i did see it and i rewound it again and again and i posted it on other social media.
to me this was a clear incident of touhy intentionally ripping off bonnars helmet, you can clearly see his hand reach under bonnars helmet and rip it off. am i biased because im from waterford? no. am i interested because im from waterford? yes.
firstly let me say i do not believe the GAA realise the consequences of their actions by banning players for this particular offence - yes of course a ban should be in place if there is a dangerous breach of safety. but compare tadgh and adrians incidents...
tadgh - no clear footage of it, harry keohoe highlighted it to the linesman who in turn highlighted it to the ref and straight red card. i disagree with dan shanahan when hes praising harry keohoe for attending CCC hearings to speak up for tadgh. id have praised harry keohoe if he hadnt acted the way he did when the incident happened resulting in the red card being issued. eitherway harry, tadgh and all "the experts" now say it looked like it wasnt deliberate and tadgh was trying to get away from harry...eitherway tadgh is still banned.
my own opinion yesterday was adrian was reaching back and purposely pulling off bonnars helmet but to prevent him from winning the ball back only. bonnar did a big song and dance about it and no action was taken. im told but not sure, same linesman who had tadgh sent off was linesman yesterday.
im not stirring the pot here. im not winding up my galway friends, ive always said if my own county didnt win an all ireland id love to see galway do it.......but, if we are meant to live in a society of fairness and equality,and play by "the rules", adrian must be banned for the organisation to be consistent. the GAA cannot not ban him given whats gone on this week with tadgh and will send out completely wrong message if it doesnt.
i appreciate how hard these boys have trained all year and sacrificed. and no im not saying to myself this will be great for waterford, i no full well we have a huge task to even get to september next sunday and thats all im concentrating on, id much rather beat cork and galway with their strongest teams playing, you aim to beat the best dont you?....eitherway i think the GAA, when the championship is over, review this rule and include another subsection regarding common sense." I thought the same as yourself, I seen it live and couldn't believe no one copped it..commentators or no one...having said that, no more than De Burca, Touhy had an outstanding game on Sunday and would have been my man of the match..he was excellent..the helmet thing I am only hearing here now as an issue, but did think at the time as it happened that he should have at least been pulled up and carded for it...
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 08/08/2017 17:07:56
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Fabricated story, has no basis for further study
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1667 - 08/08/2017 17:32:35
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Juniorjudge, I see we're all still waiting for you to provide a link to support your claim. Nothing undermines a persons credibility more than making wild statements that not only cannot be supported by reality, but are clearly contradicted by it.
Can we put this silliness to bed now?
festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 08/08/2017 19:23:53
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When will we know the outcome of this farce?
grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 08/08/2017 20:25:23
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Replying To juniorjudge: "well i suppose this will open up a can of worms with my galway friends but its not meant to. Adrian Touhy was highlighted on the sunday game for the helmet related incident with bonnar yesterday. im really not sure if many people saw it at the time? there was no mention of it by the commentators...but i did see it and i rewound it again and again and i posted it on other social media.
to me this was a clear incident of touhy intentionally ripping off bonnars helmet, you can clearly see his hand reach under bonnars helmet and rip it off. am i biased because im from waterford? no. am i interested because im from waterford? yes.
firstly let me say i do not believe the GAA realise the consequences of their actions by banning players for this particular offence - yes of course a ban should be in place if there is a dangerous breach of safety. but compare tadgh and adrians incidents...
tadgh - no clear footage of it, harry keohoe highlighted it to the linesman who in turn highlighted it to the ref and straight red card. i disagree with dan shanahan when hes praising harry keohoe for attending CCC hearings to speak up for tadgh. id have praised harry keohoe if he hadnt acted the way he did when the incident happened resulting in the red card being issued. eitherway harry, tadgh and all "the experts" now say it looked like it wasnt deliberate and tadgh was trying to get away from harry...eitherway tadgh is still banned.
my own opinion yesterday was adrian was reaching back and purposely pulling off bonnars helmet but to prevent him from winning the ball back only. bonnar did a big song and dance about it and no action was taken. im told but not sure, same linesman who had tadgh sent off was linesman yesterday.
im not stirring the pot here. im not winding up my galway friends, ive always said if my own county didnt win an all ireland id love to see galway do it.......but, if we are meant to live in a society of fairness and equality,and play by "the rules", adrian must be banned for the organisation to be consistent. the GAA cannot not ban him given whats gone on this week with tadgh and will send out completely wrong message if it doesnt.
i appreciate how hard these boys have trained all year and sacrificed. and no im not saying to myself this will be great for waterford, i no full well we have a huge task to even get to september next sunday and thats all im concentrating on, id much rather beat cork and galway with their strongest teams playing, you aim to beat the best dont you?....eitherway i think the GAA, when the championship is over, review this rule and include another subsection regarding common sense." Still waiting on the pundits names junior judge! Do you think TDB will bother showing for his appeal? You can hardly be calling for Adrian to be banned and then accept Tadgh getting cleared.
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Replying To grellans89: "When will we know the outcome of this farce?" Oh, stop, that comment was too funny. It is some farce...
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Replying To Killarney.87: "Oh, stop, that comment was too funny. It is some farce..." It's farce like the rest of the poor comments we see from you.
grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 08/08/2017 22:19:30
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Replying To grellans89: "It's farce like the rest of the poor comments we see from you." Eh, I was agreeing with you. I think it is a farce that he might get suspended for the final.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 08/08/2017 23:45:44
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Replying To game.on.now.ger: "The biggest - and most important - difference between the two incidents is that De Burca got a red card during the match, Tuohy didn't.
As such, De Burca received an automatic one match suspension, and on appeal had/has to produce evidence that the offence did not occur (wasn't deliberate).
As Tuohy wasn't sent off during the match, should the CCCC decide to look into that incident they would have to take the view that the footage clearly showed that the offence was committed (i.e. that Tuohy deliberately interfered with the helmet) if they are to hand down a suspension." Stephen Bennett got suspension and he was not even spoken to about the incident, during the game.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 09/08/2017 09:44:21
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Stephen Bennett got suspension and he was not even spoken to about the incident, during the game." Indeed but, as per the last part of my post about the Tuohy incident, in Bennett's case the footage did clearly show that the offence was committed.
game.on.now.ger (Galway) - Posts: 423 - 10/08/2017 00:27:41
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Replying To juniorjudge: "good synopsis as usual. i think adrian will get banned though, rightly or wrongly." Well now , so much for what you think.
Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 10/08/2017 11:25:35
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Galway's Adrian Tuohy gets green light for All Ireland final as he is cleared on Bonner helmet incident
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/galways-adrian-tuohy-gets-green-light-for-all-ireland-final-as-he-is-cleared-on-bonner-helmet-incident-36017779.html
mike_tuam (Galway) - Posts: 157 - 10/08/2017 12:09:50
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Hilarious to see the Waterford fans tweeting and emailing the Sunday Game about this incident. Hiding behind the "we want fair play mantra"......
2 totally different cases is Tuohey v Tadhg De Burca (herein to be known as TDB).
Tuohey not even looking at the player. Had his back to him to protect the ball, made minimal contact with Bonnars Cooper helmet, made popular in the 70's and 80's and therefore not as strong and sturdy as todays modern-esque helmet.
TDB grabbed the faceguard of Harry Kehoe right infront of the linesman and deservedly got his marching orders in my opinion. Shows how nervous the Waterford fans are making such a racket about Tuohey then.
As a Waterford man myself I am fairly let down by this whole thing and embarrassed. His ban should be upheld no matter who Waterford appeal too - CCCC, DRA, IRA... you name it - appeal should be rejected on account of the going on by some sections of supporters.
AustinGleeson6 (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 10/08/2017 12:11:04
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Where have you gone juniorjudge?
Let's have a thread calling for a ban on Austin Gleeson now!
Consistency is all we want !
Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 13/08/2017 20:18:29
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Replying To Barnowl94: "Where have you gone juniorjudge?
Let's have a thread calling for a ban on Austin Gleeson now!
Consistency is all we want !" Exactly hopefully Gleeson doesn't get a ban and miss the final like Tuohy didn't . Hopefully the CCC remains consistent fair play
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Replying To dubshurling7: "Exactly hopefully Gleeson doesn't get a ban and miss the final like Tuohy didn't . Hopefully the CCC remains consistent fair play" Are you having a laugh?
Austin Gleeson 100% went to pull the faceguard of his opponent today with the intention of doing so, deserves to get the suspension as rules are rules. All this sentiment etc about a great player not getting a chance to play in a final is nonsense.
grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 13/08/2017 21:03:02
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Replying To Barnowl94: "Where have you gone juniorjudge?
Let's have a thread calling for a ban on Austin Gleeson now!
Consistency is all we want !" Careful what you wish for alright.
I think it's a simple enough one.
He'll be banned if it's in the referee's report if not he will get off like Tuohy. Silly boy to do it with all the talk about helmets these days.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/08/2017 21:09:02
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Replying To dubshurling7: "Exactly hopefully Gleeson doesn't get a ban and miss the final like Tuohy didn't . Hopefully the CCC remains consistent fair play" Austin Gleeson has to be a banned if it's fair play. Tuohy didn't grab the helmets face guard Gleeson did grab the face guard. If the rules are enforced fairly Austin Gleeson should be banned. If the GAA bottle it, it will make a laughing stock of this rule and be typical of the GAA. where is the judge now ??
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Will there be many messages from Waterford supporters to Sunday Game tonight looking for pundits to analyse the helmet incident.
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Replying To lowandhard: "Austin Gleeson has to be a banned if it's fair play. Tuohy didn't grab the helmets face guard Gleeson did grab the face guard. If the rules are enforced fairly Austin Gleeson should be banned. If the GAA bottle it, it will make a laughing stock of this rule and be typical of the GAA. where is the judge now ??" Your o.k. with your player getting off on the technicality of not looking at Bonnar but want the Waterford player suspended and no difference what direction he is looking. Great sports man you are.
The Galway player did not deserve to be suspended and lets agree to have some consistency on how the stupid rule was and should be applied.
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