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Just asking a few questions. Meath will play Kerry in the All Ireland junior football final next week. Neither can play players from their senior club teams. Meaths squad is based on players under 23/24. So is Kerrys. But I am told that there are only actually eight proper senior club teams in Kerry. Meath have eighteen. If true this immediately gives Kerry an advantage of ten extra clubs. And not only that. With the Kerry system all their players can line out at senior level with divisional clubs. And poor old Leitrim with a populationonly the size of Killarney had to drop eight players for their semi final clash with the Kingdom as they had already played in this years senior championship. Maybe some of our Kerry readers can answer these questions. For if true, and I know that Kerry are not breaking the rules, Kerry have a huge advantage as do their junior and especially intermediate club teams in the All Ireland club championships. Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 31/07/2017 20:07:05 2026892 Link
Well I don't think our senior County championship is designed soley to give Kerry the best chance at winning the junior all ireland. But you are correct in saying that it does allow alot more players to be eligible for the Kerry Juniors. as_ky (Kerry) - Posts: 535 - 31/07/2017 20:15:04 2026899 Link
Replying To Triple H: "Just asking a few questions. Meath will play Kerry in the All Ireland junior football final next week. Neither can play players from their senior club teams. Meaths squad is based on players under 23/24. So is Kerrys. But I am told that there are only actually eight proper senior club teams in Kerry. Meath have eighteen. If true this immediately gives Kerry an advantage of ten extra clubs. And not only that. With the Kerry system all their players can line out at senior level with divisional clubs. And poor old Leitrim with a populationonly the size of Killarney had to drop eight players for their semi final clash with the Kingdom as they had already played in this years senior championship. Maybe some of our Kerry readers can answer these questions. For if true, and I know that Kerry are not breaking the rules, Kerry have a huge advantage as do their junior and especially intermediate club teams in the All Ireland club championships." Letting all players at every club have a chance to play at senior level is done to benefit the players and give everyone a chance to compete at the highest level in club football. The Gaa make the rules and we simply follow them. If counties like your own want 18 clubs at senior level with a lopsided championship with many poor clubs then thats your county boards decision. KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 31/07/2017 20:35:13 2026916 Link
We have about 60 clubs none of which are super clubs are we seriously disadvantaged in comparison to Dublin? PluckyUnderdog (Kerry) - Posts: 25 - 31/07/2017 20:40:04 2026920 Link
Replying To Triple H: "Just asking a few questions. Meath will play Kerry in the All Ireland junior football final next week. Neither can play players from their senior club teams. Meaths squad is based on players under 23/24. So is Kerrys. But I am told that there are only actually eight proper senior club teams in Kerry. Meath have eighteen. If true this immediately gives Kerry an advantage of ten extra clubs. And not only that. With the Kerry system all their players can line out at senior level with divisional clubs. And poor old Leitrim with a populationonly the size of Killarney had to drop eight players for their semi final clash with the Kingdom as they had already played in this years senior championship. Maybe some of our Kerry readers can answer these questions. For if true, and I know that Kerry are not breaking the rules, Kerry have a huge advantage as do their junior and especially intermediate club teams in the All Ireland club championships." Goodman get the excuses in early. Kerry treat the junior as a stepping stone between the 21s and the senior panel. Kerry v Cork in the junior Munster final was arguably the best game of the year at any level. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 31/07/2017 20:47:10 2026928 Link
Thanks for confirming things guys. Kerrys championship structure appears brilliant. Meath also have about 60 odd clubs and should have a good look at the Kerry system. Have often wondered why so many players from junior clubs figured on the Kerry senior team. It appears they have no need to move clubs and play at the more attractive senior grade because your divisional championship offers the opportunity to line out at this level. It probably also throws up an unknown player from an obscure junior club who could be capable of playing county senior. Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 31/07/2017 20:54:10 2026934 Link
Replying To Triple H: "Thanks for confirming things guys. Kerrys championship structure appears brilliant. Meath also have about 60 odd clubs and should have a good look at the Kerry system. Have often wondered why so many players from junior clubs figured on the Kerry senior team. It appears they have no need to move clubs and play at the more attractive senior grade because your divisional championship offers the opportunity to line out at this level. It probably also throws up an unknown player from an obscure junior club who could be capable of playing county senior." Ya it makes sure no players slips through the cracks. We have a lot of juniors and intermediate players on our senior team. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 31/07/2017 21:42:14 2026980 Link
Replying To Triple H: "Thanks for confirming things guys. Kerrys championship structure appears brilliant. Meath also have about 60 odd clubs and should have a good look at the Kerry system. Have often wondered why so many players from junior clubs figured on the Kerry senior team. It appears they have no need to move clubs and play at the more attractive senior grade because your divisional championship offers the opportunity to line out at this level. It probably also throws up an unknown player from an obscure junior club who could be capable of playing county senior." Declan o Sullivan from Piarsaigh ná Droimide, captained Kerry to three All Ireland finals in a row between 05 and 07 because of this system. galwaydublin (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 31/07/2017 22:10:58 2027000 Link
Replying To Triple H: "Thanks for confirming things guys. Kerrys championship structure appears brilliant. Meath also have about 60 odd clubs and should have a good look at the Kerry system. Have often wondered why so many players from junior clubs figured on the Kerry senior team. It appears they have no need to move clubs and play at the more attractive senior grade because your divisional championship offers the opportunity to line out at this level. It probably also throws up an unknown player from an obscure junior club who could be capable of playing county senior." is easy to do that in Kerry as they are not a dual county. Hurling only a hobby down there played by a few clubs BartMcQueen (Cork) - Posts: 196 - 31/07/2017 22:26:34 2027013 Link
Replying To PluckyUnderdog: "We have about 60 clubs none of which are super clubs are we seriously disadvantaged in comparison to Dublin?" Sure didn't win All Ireland with Shane Murphy from Kilcummin and alan O'Sullivan Tuosist. Example of superclub taking players from small parishes BartMcQueen (Cork) - Posts: 196 - 31/07/2017 22:29:53 2027015 Link
Replying To BartMcQueen: "is easy to do that in Kerry as they are not a dual county. Hurling only a hobby down there played by a few clubs" This ignorant stupidity shouldn't be allowed get past the moderates P.S. the way the Cork footballers are going ye won't be considered a dual county much longer ;D TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 31/07/2017 22:53:12 2027040 Link
Replying To BartMcQueen: "Sure didn't win All Ireland with Shane Murphy from Kilcummin and alan O'Sullivan Tuosist. Example of superclub taking players from small parishes" Do you even know where Tousist is Bart? Let me give you a hint its a long way from KIllarney. Killarney has a population of 15k and they are competing with Legion and a lot of clubs in the surrounding area just outside the town Castleknock who got to the Dublin Final were considered a fairytale story and not a superclub have a population of around 25k and a way bigger catchment area to pick from Galantis (USA) - Posts: 55 - 01/08/2017 13:22:24 2027338 Link
Nice to see Jim McGuinness say what so many think about Kerry's route to this year's final...! Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3725 - 01/08/2017 13:39:25 2027355 Link
Replying To BartMcQueen: "is easy to do that in Kerry as they are not a dual county. Hurling only a hobby down there played by a few clubs" Tell that to the boys in what Pat Spillane calls "bandit territory"...!!!! Moyle (Tipperary) - Posts: 86 - 01/08/2017 14:30:51 2027391 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Nice to see Jim McGuinness say what so many think about Kerry's route to this year's final...!" A Dublin fan moralising about competitive provinces, dont make me split my sides laughing Leinster Football is a total joke, the team with the biggest population and funding by a country mile getting every game at Home bar the odd neutral venues vs Div 4 opposition. When is the last time a Leinster team did anything since Meath in the late 90's and early 00's??? Galantis (USA) - Posts: 55 - 01/08/2017 14:39:59 2027395 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Nice to see Jim McGuinness say what so many think about Kerry's route to this year's final...!" Spot on. Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 01/08/2017 15:39:17 2027437 Link
I always laugh about "Kerry's route to the final being handy"..the handier the better I say!! surfdude62 (Kerry) - Posts: 46 - 01/08/2017 15:48:23 2027441 Link
Replying To Galantis: "A Dublin fan moralising about competitive provinces, dont make me split my sides laughing Leinster Football is a total joke, the team with the biggest population and funding by a country mile getting every game at Home bar the odd neutral venues vs Div 4 opposition. When is the last time a Leinster team did anything since Meath in the late 90's and early 00's???" Less of your guff there lad..... IF both counties get to the Final, would will have had the easier route this year..... Fact....! Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3725 - 01/08/2017 16:18:57 2027469 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Less of your guff there lad..... IF both counties get to the Final, would will have had the easier route this year..... Fact....!" Maybe Kerrys perceived easy route is probably because we are superior to the majority of counties in the country so anyone we get seems easy. Dublin will have one decent game against Tyrone probably to get to the final and thats a fact. Plus a 3/4 point advantage in every game due to home advantage, and you say the other guy is talking guff haha. Jaysus I can imagine how much more successful we would be with our games in Killarney every year. KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 01/08/2017 16:53:27 2027492 Link
I wouldn't pay too much heed to McGuinness's comments on Kerry, firstly its not Kerry's fault the way the championship is designed and second he's probably responding in part to Spillane's article about Donegal over the weekend and yes much as it pains me to say it none of us in Leinster have given the Dubs much to worry about over the last few years so that argument is really a bit of a non runner. Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 01/08/2017 17:10:30 2027507 Link