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Kieran Donaghy is still the King of the opposing square

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Ever since he put the great Francie Bellew on his ass back in 2006 he has been the most feared forward in the country from a backs prospective.How in hells name would you sleep the night before if you thought you had to mark that lad in Croke Park

galwayted (Galway) - Posts: 26 - 31/07/2017 19:44:57    2026883

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Wouldn't say that now, there was a while there when he looked like he was finished. Then with all hope lost, and Kerry facing an imminent defeat to Mayo in Croker, Fitz went for the hail Mary and sent Donaghy in......the rest as they say in history!
Reestablishing himself as a focal point of the Kerry team at his age is an absolute credit to the man, looks in serious shape.

as_ky (Kerry) - Posts: 535 - 31/07/2017 20:19:41    2026903

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You'd need some neck alright to be able for Donaghy.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2733 - 31/07/2017 20:50:04    2026931

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Its his strength,agility, and ability to read a pass thats makes him so dangerous.
AOS could do watching him and the way he does his job

Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 31/07/2017 20:59:19    2026938

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Replying To galwayted:  "Ever since he put the great Francie Bellew on his ass back in 2006 he has been the most feared forward in the country from a backs prospective.How in hells name would you sleep the night before if you thought you had to mark that lad in Croke Park"
I'd say there was no sleep lost in the McMahon household in Tyrone the night before 08 final when similar stuff was being written. Dublin seem to have his measure as well.

He has been a top player but you'd think he was a one man team listening to the likes of Brolly and others crow about him. For a high fielder could he be in a better team in terms of service from midfield and half forward?

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 31/07/2017 21:21:11    2026957

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "I'd say there was no sleep lost in the McMahon household in Tyrone the night before 08 final when similar stuff was being written. Dublin seem to have his measure as well.

He has been a top player but you'd think he was a one man team listening to the likes of Brolly and others crow about him. For a high fielder could he be in a better team in terms of service from midfield and half forward?"
What a pathetic bitter post. He will retire with at least four Celtic Crosses and was the teams most valuable player in 2-3 of those seasons. How many GAA players in history get to say that?

So Tyrone and Dublin have double marked him (and pulled, dragged, belted and kicked him) effectively at times, are you seriously trying to suggest this taints him as a player in some way?

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 01/08/2017 02:29:48    2027096

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "What a pathetic bitter post. He will retire with at least four Celtic Crosses and was the teams most valuable player in 2-3 of those seasons. How many GAA players in history get to say that?

So Tyrone and Dublin have double marked him (and pulled, dragged, belted and kicked him) effectively at times, are you seriously trying to suggest this taints him as a player in some way?"
I think StarBar's best quality is not his fielding. It's that he has a plan for the next move after he lands back on the ground.

The number of times that Big Aido plucks the ball brilliantly out of the sky, only to come back down with a "Ah Shyte, what do I do now?" look on his face.

Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 01/08/2017 10:22:42    2027173

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Donaghy is a different class. He's got ridiculous quick hands on him and has an excellent footballing brain. I watched him in a round 4 qualifier v Monaghan in croker in 2008. The man is a class act. I genuinely don't think there is a full back in the country that could deal with him in a 1v1 situation.

I'm not sure who said if he was that good why isn't he playing out the field? The reason is he's not needed. With the likes of Moran and Buckley Kerry can afford to leave him on the square. It's not like Donegal who need Murphy in the middle of the park to win the ball.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 01/08/2017 10:32:55    2027179

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What a pathetic bitter post. He will retire with at least four Celtic Crosses and was the teams most valuable player in 2-3 of those seasons. How many GAA players in history get to say that? 

So Tyrone and Dublin have double marked him (and pulled, dragged, belted and kicked him) effectively at times, are you seriously trying to suggest this taints him as a player in some way?

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts:339 - 01/08/2017 02:29:48   2027096 

That's some over reaction man.

Saffron merely pointed out that Donaghy is markable as some teams have shown in the past.

Saffron also mentioned that it isn't all about the big man. He does well when he gets quality ball in and playing for Kerry means he gets serious quality ball.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13703 - 01/08/2017 10:37:18    2027184

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Every time a high ball was kicked in on sunday you could hear the whole stadium shudder in fear and anticipation no other player that I have ever seen can cause that.

galwayted (Galway) - Posts: 26 - 01/08/2017 10:44:36    2027190

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "What a pathetic bitter post. He will retire with at least four Celtic Crosses and was the teams most valuable player in 2-3 of those seasons. How many GAA players in history get to say that?

So Tyrone and Dublin have double marked him (and pulled, dragged, belted and kicked him) effectively at times, are you seriously trying to suggest this taints him as a player in some way?"
Ha ha nice irony there with a pathetic and bitter second paragraph in your post, pal.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 01/08/2017 10:45:26    2027191

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Don't be atall surprised if Kerry abandon that strategy if they meet Dublin
Time and again they have tried it and time and again he has been snuffed out
It worked at the weekend but try it against the Dubs FB line and it will fail, again....
The way to beat the Dubs is not the big 14 on the edge of the square, as Donaghy has found to his cost time and again
The way to beat Dublin is to stretch the FB line to the wings and Kerry have just the boys to do it if the delivery is good

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 01/08/2017 10:51:22    2027202

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Don't be atall surprised if Kerry abandon that strategy if they meet Dublin
Time and again they have tried it and time and again he has been snuffed out
It worked at the weekend but try it against the Dubs FB line and it will fail, again....
The way to beat the Dubs is not the big 14 on the edge of the square, as Donaghy has found to his cost time and again
The way to beat Dublin is to stretch the FB line to the wings and Kerry have just the boys to do it if the delivery is good"
I think both strategies can be accommodated Liam, people tend to think of donaghy as just a high fielder but he's a serious finisher as well he has scored 16/17 championships goals.

Plus having his big 6.5 frame hanging around the edge of the square when we push up on the clux will come in handy as old stevo might have to take an extra second or two to pick his kick.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 01/08/2017 11:20:36    2027233

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Replying To MesAmis:  "What a pathetic bitter post. He will retire with at least four Celtic Crosses and was the teams most valuable player in 2-3 of those seasons. How many GAA players in history get to say that? 

So Tyrone and Dublin have double marked him (and pulled, dragged, belted and kicked him) effectively at times, are you seriously trying to suggest this taints him as a player in some way?

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts:339 - 01/08/2017 02:29:48   2027096 

That's some over reaction man.

Saffron merely pointed out that Donaghy is markable as some teams have shown in the past.

Saffron also mentioned that it isn't all about the big man. He does well when he gets quality ball in and playing for Kerry means he gets serious quality ball."
Ah yeah true apologies. Lots of people seem to want to discredit him and have a dig lately, it's getting a bit tiresome.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 01/08/2017 11:23:18    2027235

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Its a clear straegy to focalise the attack. If you have to give attention in the center you leave space for Geany and JOD on the flanks.

Have a funny feeling teams will have cottoned on to this come the semi final stage. Put a big man marker on Starbar and allow them to launch the long ball in and touch tight on the two lads on the flank.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4443 - 01/08/2017 11:28:02    2027240

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Don't be atall surprised if Kerry abandon that strategy if they meet Dublin
Time and again they have tried it and time and again he has been snuffed out
It worked at the weekend but try it against the Dubs FB line and it will fail, again....
The way to beat the Dubs is not the big 14 on the edge of the square, as Donaghy has found to his cost time and again
The way to beat Dublin is to stretch the FB line to the wings and Kerry have just the boys to do it if the delivery is good"
He played in midfield against Dublin last year and only came on at the end in 2015. They haven't really had to deal with him that much to be fair. I'd agree it's not the gameplan to go with if Kerry do meet Dublin as they will get plenty of numbers back and shut him down.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 01/08/2017 11:28:46    2027241

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "He played in midfield against Dublin last year and only came on at the end in 2015. They haven't really had to deal with him that much to be fair. I'd agree it's not the gameplan to go with if Kerry do meet Dublin as they will get plenty of numbers back and shut him down."
Donaghy is good theres no doubt about that..does he do it day in day out to be called "king" of the square???..don't think so..he was very good the other day against Galway, but I remember games, many of them where he had little or no impact, and was taken off...one swallow and all that..Ide have him on my panel though....

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 01/08/2017 12:06:51    2027274

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Replying To galwayted:  "Ever since he put the great Francie Bellew on his ass back in 2006 he has been the most feared forward in the country from a backs prospective.How in hells name would you sleep the night before if you thought you had to mark that lad in Croke Park"
I don't think Rory, Johnny or Philly had to use sleeping tablets the nights before playing Kerry, I think it's quite safe to say a good night's sleep was had by all but having said that Donaghys a great player!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 01/08/2017 12:21:44    2027287

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Donaghy is good theres no doubt about that..does he do it day in day out to be called "king" of the square???..don't think so..he was very good the other day against Galway, but I remember games, many of them where he had little or no impact, and was taken off...one swallow and all that..Ide have him on my panel though...."
One swallow? 4 all Ireland's in his pocket... One swallow alright.
Donnaghy is in the best shape in the last 5/6 years , slimmed down, more agile and his catching has improved again.
Like Murphy or O Shea he gets very little of the refs, curse of the big man.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 01/08/2017 12:26:25    2027289

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "What a pathetic bitter post. He will retire with at least four Celtic Crosses and was the teams most valuable player in 2-3 of those seasons. How many GAA players in history get to say that?

So Tyrone and Dublin have double marked him (and pulled, dragged, belted and kicked him) effectively at times, are you seriously trying to suggest this taints him as a player in some way?"
did you even read my second paragraph before you reacted with the same bitterness you're accusing me of having?

i said he was a top player. i also said that he had the best supply line a full forward could ask for, unless you're going to down talk your own county's forward line, which i doubt given your fanboy reaction!

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 01/08/2017 12:33:51    2027297

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