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Wow, listening to the tone from Sean O'Sullivan's voice on of the ball seriously suggests that Kerry folk are scared shtless of playing Tyrone, I'd say it's a tough choice for who Kerry would rather beat, both teams have got deep under their skin. realdub (Dublin)* - Posts: 8586 - 24/08/2017 23:56:31 2037381 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Two points , firstly take off the tinfoil hat, no dodgy calls will be awarded, coldrick is a excellent ref, and his integrity is beyond reproach. Secondly, it won't be close. Dublin are superior to Tyrone and it would take everything to go wrong for them and everything to go right for Tyrone for it to be even in the melting pot with ten minutes to go." what a load of rubbish. Unless Coldrick is your da, how else can you come on here and tell people what he will or won't do? Also, saying that the match definitely wont be close is just more ignorance. Did you not see the last 5 encounters between the two teams? all very close games and dont say league doesn't count because Dublin seem to take the league as serious as anybody given their recent success in the competition. Maybe Dublin will run away with it on Sunday but to say it definitely wont be close is typical of your on going hatred for all things Tyrone and perhaps that is why some posters from Tyrone are uneasy at the prospect of a Meath man in charge of the match. It should have been and always should be at this stage, a ref from one of the non playing provinces. It could take at least a little pressure of the refs shoulders. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 25/08/2017 02:08:54 2037385 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Well said." Thanks. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/08/2017 08:01:52 2037400 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Two points , firstly take off the tinfoil hat, no dodgy calls will be awarded, coldrick is a excellent ref, and his integrity is beyond reproach. Secondly, it won't be close. Dublin are superior to Tyrone and it would take everything to go wrong for them and everything to go right for Tyrone for it to be even in the melting pot with ten minutes to go." Royal dunne - your entitled to give your opinion on how the match will go. But i hope your doing so based on your assessment of the current Tyrone team and not based on past performances and teams of late. There are five changes in the starting line up that got beaten by Mayo. P.hamsey all ireland winner for U21's 2015, has come in to replace J.McMahon in the half backs.Keiran McGeary another U21 all ireland winner has solidified his position in the starting line up along side David Mulgrew who is a scoring machine. Out of favour players McCurry and Oneill cant make the team as well as C.McShane or R.Mcnabb all of which helped Tyrone win Ulster last year, theses guys all demoted to the sideline. Dont be judging Tyrone this year based on previous championships, this is a whole new animal. Looking forward to it. cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 25/08/2017 09:40:32 2037423 Link
Replying To IrishGael3: "Was only kidding - but don't you think your boys move the ball in very similar and fast fashion - wet weather going to have same effect on you as well?" The Tyrone lads aren't as physically imposing up top as Dublin, wet day, slippy ball and an undoubted challenge coming in from the side/back? I duno, seems quite picky I know but at this level everything will count - I can't see Mark Bradley having much joy in a 2 v 1 at least v Dublin defends and that's really Tyrone's only 'forward' that sticks. GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 25/08/2017 10:24:02 2037444 Link
Replying To GetOverTheBar: "The Tyrone lads aren't as physically imposing up top as Dublin, wet day, slippy ball and an undoubted challenge coming in from the side/back? I duno, seems quite picky I know but at this level everything will count - I can't see Mark Bradley having much joy in a 2 v 1 at least v Dublin defends and that's really Tyrone's only 'forward' that sticks." Sat and Sunday both sunny 20 degrees So that means good football anyway I wouldnt like to be Mayo in the black tops though Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 25/08/2017 11:11:03 2037462 Link
Going for a Tyrone win here, Tyrone 3+ oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 25/08/2017 11:26:20 2037470 Link
The championship has only lit up at the semi final stage and as much as I am looking forward to the Kerry Mayo replay, this game is going to be a cracker as well. It will be in the melting pot going into the last few minutes but I do expect the Dubs to pull through after a battle and a half. woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 25/08/2017 11:31:30 2037471 Link
I am confident I am confident mainly because I can see Philly Mc/Johnny Cooper absolutely snuffing out Bradley. He is a nice footballer, but the Dubs FB line have a great record of not giving away silly fouls. They are excellent in the tackle and don't concede frees in the process. For that reason I don't see Bradley putting up a big score, and if he doesn't then Tyrone will need Peter Harte or Matty to have absolute stormers to get the necessary scores to beat Dublin, and I am confident they wont get that opportunity. Tyrone have looked very good this year but what have they beaten? You could say the same about Dublin except in the last few years this Dubs team have beaten everyone, Tyrone have been beaten by all the other top sides. With only a mediocre Ulster championship to go by, Tyrone have not met anything recently like this Dubs team. I see Dubs winning by 5 Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 25/08/2017 11:38:49 2037476 Link
I'm going for a draw in this one now! The first time both all-ireland football semis were drawn since Kerry v Monaghan and Dublin v Mayo in 1985. Must check the odds on that. Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 25/08/2017 12:06:59 2037496 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I am confident I am confident mainly because I can see Philly Mc/Johnny Cooper absolutely snuffing out Bradley. He is a nice footballer, but the Dubs FB line have a great record of not giving away silly fouls. They are excellent in the tackle and don't concede frees in the process. For that reason I don't see Bradley putting up a big score, and if he doesn't then Tyrone will need Peter Harte or Matty to have absolute stormers to get the necessary scores to beat Dublin, and I am confident they wont get that opportunity. Tyrone have looked very good this year but what have they beaten? You could say the same about Dublin except in the last few years this Dubs team have beaten everyone, Tyrone have been beaten by all the other top sides. With only a mediocre Ulster championship to go by, Tyrone have not met anything recently like this Dubs team. I see Dubs winning by 5" I'd agree. I'm getting bored of people saying "Dublin wont have met a team like this Tyrone team" "Tyrone will have been planning for Dublin for the past year or two" Give it a rest, With Tyrone coming through one of the toughest provinces, it was no guarantee with Monaghan Donegal and one or two others that that Tyrone would win it. So they'd have to focus game by game. And Dublin couldn't focus on Tyrone cause they wouldn't have known who was going to come through Ulster definitively either. At the end of the day, Dublin and Tyrone will have done their homework over the last few weeks. Dublin are going for 3 in a row, Tyrone will want to dethrone us. It has the makings of a cracker and neither team will lack hunger or motivation. Dublin are the better team and I expect them to win with their superior bench to get them over the line. And like Liam, I don't see Tyrone outside of Bradley sticking the scores over but look, Sport is mad and Tyrone may just nick it, but I fully expect Dublin to empty the bench and win this one. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 25/08/2017 12:26:09 2037510 Link
I love this quote "Tyrone will have been planning for Dublin for the past year or two" I have been planning to invade England for the past year or two BUT my army is not strong enough. While as an Ulsterman I want to see Tyrone do well my head says otherwise. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 25/08/2017 12:30:23 2037513 Link
Dublin had to go through pain before 2011, not good enough to beat the top teams, always losing to Kerry, Tyrone, losing by a point to Cork etc but eventually made the breakthrough and suddenly the new dogs took over from the old dogs. Dublin have been magnificent over the past five years but eventually they will be overtaken. Tyrone have worked hard to get into a position to be able to take over on the national stage and compete with Kerry and Mayo as the team to succeed. Matching up the two teams they both have great managers, easy wins in the championship this year, they both have great benches(Dublin may have more names on the bench) but Tyrone also have a great panel and like Dublin have successfully brought on players who have made an impact. Mulgrew's reward for scoring two goals as a sub is to start this time just the way is should be. Tyrone are very fit and the conditioning of the team in the last two years has been significant and they will press up on Dublin for kickout's. One advantage Tyrone have is Colm Cavanagh is the best sweeper in the game with a great understanding of how to play the role and he should be getting an All-star if this role was recognised properly. I have also seen a big jump in Morgan's general goalkeeping ability and his great improvement in kickouts. There is a good spread of scores throughout the team and it is time for Tyrone to show the rest of Ireland how good they can be. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 25/08/2017 13:24:40 2037550 Link
Is there a chance that Tyrone may not push up on the Dublin kickout and just concede them? That would enable then to have all their men back and say to Dublin 'break us down', maybe frustrate the life out of Dublin. I seem to remember against Donegal in the first 20 minutes (when the game was still close) that Tyrone allowed Donegal to take quite a few short kickouts, maybe they figured Donegal couldn't hurt them and were conserving energy. It will be fascinating to see what happens. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 25/08/2017 14:11:19 2037581 Link
Replying To Green_Gold: "Is there a chance that Tyrone may not push up on the Dublin kickout and just concede them? That would enable then to have all their men back and say to Dublin 'break us down', maybe frustrate the life out of Dublin. I seem to remember against Donegal in the first 20 minutes (when the game was still close) that Tyrone allowed Donegal to take quite a few short kickouts, maybe they figured Donegal couldn't hurt them and were conserving energy. It will be fascinating to see what happens." That could happen BUT if Dublin push up on the Tyrone kick-outs then it's Goodnight Irene. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 25/08/2017 14:29:12 2037592 Link
Replying To Byanthon: "Dublin had to go through pain before 2011, not good enough to beat the top teams, always losing to Kerry, Tyrone, losing by a point to Cork etc but eventually made the breakthrough and suddenly the new dogs took over from the old dogs. Dublin have been magnificent over the past five years but eventually they will be overtaken. Tyrone have worked hard to get into a position to be able to take over on the national stage and compete with Kerry and Mayo as the team to succeed. Matching up the two teams they both have great managers, easy wins in the championship this year, they both have great benches(Dublin may have more names on the bench) but Tyrone also have a great panel and like Dublin have successfully brought on players who have made an impact. Mulgrew's reward for scoring two goals as a sub is to start this time just the way is should be. Tyrone are very fit and the conditioning of the team in the last two years has been significant and they will press up on Dublin for kickout's. One advantage Tyrone have is Colm Cavanagh is the best sweeper in the game with a great understanding of how to play the role and he should be getting an All-star if this role was recognised properly. I have also seen a big jump in Morgan's general goalkeeping ability and his great improvement in kickouts. There is a good spread of scores throughout the team and it is time for Tyrone to show the rest of Ireland how good they can be." Not a bad post atall Byantheon, I will pull you up on one thing tho, I wouldn't swap Cian O'Sullivan for 2 Colm Cavanagh's for my sweeper. Apart from that tho, a lot of sense in what you say. Should be a cracker. Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 25/08/2017 14:31:58 2037594 Link
Replying To Green_Gold: "Is there a chance that Tyrone may not push up on the Dublin kickout and just concede them? That would enable then to have all their men back and say to Dublin 'break us down', maybe frustrate the life out of Dublin. I seem to remember against Donegal in the first 20 minutes (when the game was still close) that Tyrone allowed Donegal to take quite a few short kickouts, maybe they figured Donegal couldn't hurt them and were conserving energy. It will be fascinating to see what happens." If they do that and force Dublin into long range kicking, all your doing is inviting Diarmuid Connolly to almost beat you on his own, and by God, if he starts kicking them he wont stop. Remember Dubs Tyrone 2011? Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 25/08/2017 14:33:07 2037595 Link
Looking forward to this one now. I'll be in a cold sweat in croker but that's what it's all about. Both teams biggest game so far. Not sure yet if we have what it takes. No signs we don't but I'll have my doubts but hope to god I'm proven wrong. Heading up to see the Kerry-Mayo game tomorrow. Staying overnight in the big smoke. Watching the Mcgregor fight in the AM and straight into the big one Sunday eve. Weather is dry/hot and a bit of sun behind the cloud too, couldn't ask for better. Hopefully it's a big weekend for the underdogs. Heart: Tyrone by 1/2 , Mayo or Kerry don't care but Kerry might suit us better if we win, Mcgregor with a 2nd round KO Head: Dublin by 3, Mayo by 3/4 if they sort out their fouling , Mayweather on points. GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 25/08/2017 15:07:53 2037618 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "Not a bad post atall Byantheon, I will pull you up on one thing tho, I wouldn't swap Cian O'Sullivan for 2 Colm Cavanagh's for my sweeper. Apart from that tho, a lot of sense in what you say. Should be a cracker." Cavanagh is lauded by most observers as the best in the game at the role he plays. He is the best in the country in this role at the minute. He's is the best "sweeper" in the game and nobody is ahead of him. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 25/08/2017 16:32:38 2037649 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "Cavanagh is lauded by most observers as the best in the game at the role he plays. He is the best in the country in this role at the minute. He's is the best "sweeper" in the game and nobody is ahead of him." No, no he isnt Cian O'Sullivan is :) Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 25/08/2017 16:51:54 2037656 Link