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Well holy God. I find myself completely in agreement with Davy Fitz, and normally I can't stick the man!
This is the most open championship we've had for years, and while it remains to be seen if the sweeper system has what it takes to lift Liam in September, I for one will certainly not argue against the tremendously enjoyable diversity in styles that it brings to the table.

You'd wonder if RTE pay bonuses to their pundits for every headline created? These two are quickly shaping up to be the Joe Brolly and Pat Spillane of Hurling.

Davy trying to deflect from his own failed tactics terrible match to watch the pundits are spot on typical davy blame everyone else

northerncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 30 - 23/07/2017 22:43:50    2022119

I'm with Davy here aswell.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/07/2017 22:46:55    2022122

Agree with Duignan and Shefflin. No excitement or free flowing hurling in that game today. I found it hard to watch. Waterford, especially, should back their players as they have the required skill levels to go man on man. Wexford are developing.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 23/07/2017 22:58:41    2022129

The first sign of defence is attack look what happened in Waterford, Clare he destroyed them as the Laois man said there that match was terrible to day.

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 23/07/2017 23:38:33    2022171

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 23/07/2017 23:57:52    2022182

henry and michael are totally correct.davy when he fails starts blaming others.7 points down with 6 min left? no plan b? over to you davy?!!

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 24/07/2017 00:03:41    2022184

Pretty awful to watch basically he saying we are not good enough and that doesnt apply to waterford who have some class. But Davy is like a dragon breath to hurling

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 24/07/2017 00:13:26    2022188

I am not a davy fan but i am on his side 100% here, Duignan has lost all credibility as far as i am concerned. In relation to the Cody incident it was brushed under the carpet as i predicated but his justification was laughable he said yes he put his hand on the official but because he was cody and was 19 years Kilkenny manager he didnt deserve a ban.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 24/07/2017 00:34:22    2022193

Davy is spot on and has the b-lls to stand up to these pundits arm chairs critics who only want to maintain the status quo. The sooner Laois, Offaly, Carlow Westmeath, Kerry Antrim etc. get coaches who can teach them how to avoid getting scorched by the elites the better. Henry was a great player but did not mind hanging around for the loose ball with no one near him or capitalising on the hard graft of his mates. He would not get that space against any of these two teams today. Good for him but the game needed new tactics to make more teams competitive. It is so funny to hear people talking about defending in numbers now when the cats were the first to do it bringing back their half forwards to crowd out the opposition half forwards. As for Duignan. Does not demand a comment.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 24/07/2017 01:36:04    2022199

i have no problem with a manager being innovative with tactics even at the cost of entertainment. But when you're 6 points down with a couple of minutes to go and your players are still trying for points instead of goals like they were the entire game there's something not right. they got a goal at the death but it was a bit late to be testing the keeper for the first time in the entire match.

that system is a bit like Jimmy's Donegal in 2011, it'll keep you in touch with the big teams but wont get you over the line. maybe next year it will bare fruit.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 24/07/2017 02:16:56    2022204

If might be the most open hurling championship but at times some of the hurling has been painful to watch , bunching galore and forwards being totally outnumbered by defenders.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 24/07/2017 08:17:25    2022221

who does michael duignan think he is?
say what you want about derek mcgrath,davy fitz etc they are putting there chops on the block and trying to take teams to a higher level.
if michael wanted to give the same a go with offaly,i am sure their board would be all ears.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 24/07/2017 08:49:50    2022233

Is it a managers job to find a way for his team to win or just go out to hurl and entertain even if it means taking a beating playing that way?

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1326 - 24/07/2017 09:17:14    2022249

Michael Duignan loves a witch hunt. I put no heed on what he says.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 24/07/2017 10:29:03    2022321

northerncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 30 - 24/07/2017 10:43:33    2022338

hurling the greatest field game in the world . dont make me laugh . a hurler with skill is not wanted now . muscular robots is all they are
but that is what our great game has become . gone are the days of john troy or henry or paul flynn . the greatest game has been killed by fitzy and mcgrath and it will never be reborn

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1799 - 24/07/2017 11:06:43    2022376

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 24/07/2017 11:35:46    2022411

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 24/07/2017 11:46:34    2022429

I hate what Davy and Derek have done to hurling.The glory of hurling was its speed, its unpredictability , its wildness, its skill , its brio.
Davy and Derek want their men to play safety first, ball in the hand, dull, predictable possession hurling.
There is virtually no ground hurling, no overhead striking, no flow to the game they want.
2013 was a fluke, Tipp & KK took themselves out, Galway & Limerick didn't perform which allowed Davy's Clare win the McCarthy and even then he seemed to allow his players more freedom than normal to win the replay.
I don't see a team using the sweeper having success again.
Thank God.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 24/07/2017 11:56:14    2022444