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Stop the Hand Slap Goal

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Yeah I agree it looks terrible. I would love to see it confined to a closed fist. Also they should ban fisting the ball over the bar. Another rule which would be great would be a ban on kicking the ball back across your own 45. Also in camogie, they should ban the handpass goal and being able to drop your hurl, they both look terrible.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 17/07/2017 21:04:28    2018370

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Don't care for it myself. Would like all goals to be scored with the boot or deflected in from a footpass. Don't like basketball or volleyball on a Gaelic pitch.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 17/07/2017 21:34:25    2018383

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should have to be one-handed, closed-fisted, and must come from a kick-pass, not a handpass. It's Gaelic FOOTball after all.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts:160 - 17/07/2017 18:07:34 2018319


A fist is not a foot.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 17/07/2017 22:19:44    2018404

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Shouldn't get rid of something just because it doesn't look good. It takes skill to work the ball into a scoreable position, it takes skill for the attacker to get away from the defender, it takes skill to direct the ball into the net and it takes skill to beat the keeper.

monaghan90 (Monaghan) - Posts: 8 - 17/07/2017 22:36:39    2018410

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Replying To kikfada:  "Not a mention of how many of these 'goals' are square balls like Monaghans on Saturday night. have a good look at it before replying and make sure you know the rule."
Perfect goal....Carlow men on other site agreed on that so off to Specsavers with you !

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 17/07/2017 22:47:52    2018416

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Jesus we are never happy. Some awful rubbish being posted on here. Easy seeing there are not too many people actively involved in our games that just want to see random changes brought in so they can enjoy it more from the couch.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 17/07/2017 22:50:27    2018417

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Jesus we are never happy. Some awful rubbish being posted on here. Easy seeing there are not too many people actively involved in our games that just want to see random changes brought in so they can enjoy it more from the couch."
COC might not score as many then

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 17/07/2017 23:01:49    2018423

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Don't mind the slaps but I hate the ones that are verging on catching the thing and throwing it. Almost like a spike in volleyball.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 17/07/2017 23:21:05    2018429

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "should have to be one-handed, closed-fisted, and must come from a kick-pass, not a handpass. It's Gaelic FOOTball after all.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts:160 - 17/07/2017 18:07:34 2018319


A fist is not a foot."
No, but there should be a foot involved in the execution i.e. the fisted goal cannot come from a handpass. Like I said in my original post. Thanks for the anatomy lesson though.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 00:29:05    2018448

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Jesus we are never happy. Some awful rubbish being posted on here. Easy seeing there are not too many people actively involved in our games that just want to see random changes brought in so they can enjoy it more from the couch."
Daft. I'm actively involved in the game and think the act of a player practically throwing the ball into the net from a handpass is something that goes against the ethos and aesthetics of the game.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 00:31:19    2018449

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Replying To monaghan90:  "Shouldn't get rid of something just because it doesn't look good. It takes skill to work the ball into a scoreable position, it takes skill for the attacker to get away from the defender, it takes skill to direct the ball into the net and it takes skill to beat the keeper."
And it takes real skill and killer instinct from an attacker who will palm the ball into the net, rather than waste the split second trying to kick a goal that could allow a goalie or defender a better chance to block the ball.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 18/07/2017 01:31:15    2018458

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Replying To Gavvygavgav:  "Daft. I'm actively involved in the game and think the act of a player practically throwing the ball into the net from a handpass is something that goes against the ethos and aesthetics of the game."
Except the player isn't throwing the ball into the net and it's been part of the ethos and aesthetics of the game for a very long time.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 18/07/2017 03:00:47    2018463

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Replying To Donegal_D:  "Just wondering what everyone thinks about the rule which allows a player to slap the ball into the net in Football. I think this is a terrible way to award a goal. It looks crap and requires no skill but the reward is a maximum 3 points."
Complete nonsense.

Paul Mannions overhead hand slap goal against Kerry a few years ago is one the great goals.

If a team works the ball into the position that the ball can be palmed into the net then they deserve a goal.Why should the team who put all the work to gte the ball into that position be punished by having to slow up and kick the ball into the net thereby giving the defence more of a chance.

The GAA seems to be the only sport where apparently is some aspect of it doesn't "look good" then that thing should be stopped.A five yard pass in soccer doesn't really look good either it's just a basic basic skill should it be got rid of.I'm all for changing rules to improve the game but a rule change should actually provide a benefit or fix and issue (like the mark has done) and not be brought in because something doesn't look good, particularly in this instance when palming a ball into the net looks fine.

Not every single part of the sport has to look really skilful and that applies to every sport in the world.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 18/07/2017 08:09:41    2018476

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Replying To Gavvygavgav:  "I agree it's a horrible way to score. It's one of my hobby horses; should have to be one-handed, closed-fisted, and must come from a kick-pass, not a handpass. It's Gaelic FOOTball after all."
Yes it is FOOTball. Why not go even further and stop players touching the ball with their HANDs at all - what is this RUGBY!! No feet only, KICK passes only. And in that case why do we need fifteen players, eleven should be enough!. And whats with points!?- it is more skillful and artistic to score GOALS - feet only no slaps remember! - and the pitch is way too big if you can't hand pass up and across it like rugby league...

Mike Patton (Monaghan) - Posts: 82 - 18/07/2017 08:26:49    2018479

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Replying To valley84:  "COC might not score as many then"
Well done.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 18/07/2017 09:41:58    2018494

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Replying To Gavvygavgav:  "Daft. I'm actively involved in the game and think the act of a player practically throwing the ball into the net from a handpass is something that goes against the ethos and aesthetics of the game."
It's not a throw, some people on here seem to be happy if it is changed to a closed fist, as if that looks great, just pointless stuff.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 18/07/2017 09:44:06    2018495

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Aww here. This is the type of lamentable stuff there should really be an Internet filter for. Maybe players should get down on their hands and knees and nod the ball home from a yard out like the p**s takers do at my weekly game of astro?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 18/07/2017 09:49:40    2018497

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "It's not a throw, some people on here seem to be happy if it is changed to a closed fist, as if that looks great, just pointless stuff."
Think of the conundrum for Hawkeye-like-technology (HLT) though deciding if it was a fully closed fist.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 18/07/2017 09:53:59    2018499

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Replying To Donegal_D:  "Just wondering what everyone thinks about the rule which allows a player to slap the ball into the net in Football. I think this is a terrible way to award a goal. It looks crap and requires no skill but the reward is a maximum 3 points."
Ridiculous. While it may not be the same as a 20 yard screamer its usually made from hard work and teamwork, a selfless pass maybe. And underage it encourages kids to pass the ball to score and not to be greedy. We give out when the suits in charge tinker with the rules so leave well alone id say

GAAdundalk (Louth) - Posts: 641 - 18/07/2017 10:14:53    2018509

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Except the player isn't throwing the ball into the net and it's been part of the ethos and aesthetics of the game for a very long time."
when a player is taking the momentum out of a ball's trajectory and redirecting it he is essentially catching the ball, albeit momentarily.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 18/07/2017 13:09:12    2018601

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