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I feel Donegal will win convincingly. McBrearty will score however much he likes against a poor Galway full back line.
Gallagher will drop men back to stop Walsh's penetrating runs. Kevin Walsh did not do well tactically against the Rossies in my opinion. Goalkeeper issues at this time of year is worrying.
I feel Danny Cummings should start, Mark Bradley had the beating of McGrath all game against Tyrone. Danny Cummings is like Bradley, small, fast.
I would be shocked if Donegal didn't win with 8 +

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 13/07/2017 09:06:46    2015923

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I feel Donegal will win convincingly. McBrearty will score however much he likes against a poor Galway full back line.
Gallagher will drop men back to stop Walsh's penetrating runs. Kevin Walsh did not do well tactically against the Rossies in my opinion. Goalkeeper issues at this time of year is worrying.
I feel Danny Cummings should start, Mark Bradley had the beating of McGrath all game against Tyrone. Danny Cummings is like Bradley, small, fast.
I would be shocked if Donegal didn't win with 8 +"
You were very confident of beating us out the gate at Clones and you were right there - but what makes you think we should beat Galway so easily other than a weak full back line for them?

I'm quite worried about their forwards considering how leaky we've been defensively. A good shape but no intensity in the tackle.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 13/07/2017 10:18:23    2015959

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I feel Donegal will win convincingly. McBrearty will score however much he likes against a poor Galway full back line.
Gallagher will drop men back to stop Walsh's penetrating runs. Kevin Walsh did not do well tactically against the Rossies in my opinion. Goalkeeper issues at this time of year is worrying.
I feel Danny Cummings should start, Mark Bradley had the beating of McGrath all game against Tyrone. Danny Cummings is like Bradley, small, fast.
I would be shocked if Donegal didn't win with 8 +"
Shocked is bit stretching it do you not think even if our mentai state is fragile at the moment. The irony is that last year when we beat Mayo most called it a fluke with many calling this year a '2nd fluke'. I note some of those views are from people on the outside who may not fully appreciate good bad or indifferent what KW is attempting to do. Of course Donegal will be very tough for us but we are not without hope. On Danny Cummins he has been injured most of the year and I doubt if he has 70 mins of full match sharpness in him. The big question locally is how Ian Burke from Corofin has not being given game time. His finishing has been deadly at every level he has played and senior championship is the logical next step.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 13/07/2017 11:10:53    2015994

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "You were very confident of beating us out the gate at Clones and you were right there - but what makes you think we should beat Galway so easily other than a weak full back line for them?

I'm quite worried about their forwards considering how leaky we've been defensively. A good shape but no intensity in the tackle."
Look Galway didn't become a bad team over night after been beat by an inspired Ros. Same as Donegal against Tyrone.
The big factor for me is Donegal are coming off two wins, not convincing wins, but wins none the less. We have seen it over the years when a team gets put out, it takes a few games in the qualifiers to get back on track. Tyrone struggled against Louth been taken to a reply(Louth should off won the first day), also struggled against Meath at home a few years ago. Kerry struggled against Sligo and Antrim. I actually think the young Donegal players will suit the qualifiers, maybe not as much focus on them.
I just don't know what way Galway are playing. They are dropping men back but they aren't effective. Their counter attacks same slow(Walsh aside). 3 big midfielders but play the short kickout. O'Donnell the captain kicked 3-4 aimless balls straight to Ros men who went down the field and scored.
Look I've been wrong plenty of times and my pridiction will probably be miles off. But that's how I see the game going.
I'm hoping it will be close and watchable.
It's on next Sat evening isn't it?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 13/07/2017 12:31:50    2016048

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Look Galway didn't become a bad team over night after been beat by an inspired Ros. Same as Donegal against Tyrone.
The big factor for me is Donegal are coming off two wins, not convincing wins, but wins none the less. We have seen it over the years when a team gets put out, it takes a few games in the qualifiers to get back on track. Tyrone struggled against Louth been taken to a reply(Louth should off won the first day), also struggled against Meath at home a few years ago. Kerry struggled against Sligo and Antrim. I actually think the young Donegal players will suit the qualifiers, maybe not as much focus on them.
I just don't know what way Galway are playing. They are dropping men back but they aren't effective. Their counter attacks same slow(Walsh aside). 3 big midfielders but play the short kickout. O'Donnell the captain kicked 3-4 aimless balls straight to Ros men who went down the field and scored.
Look I've been wrong plenty of times and my pridiction will probably be miles off. But that's how I see the game going.
I'm hoping it will be close and watchable.
It's on next Sat evening isn't it?"
Yep in Sligo, 7pm throw-in.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 13/07/2017 12:50:16    2016057

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The reason our full back line is so weak and made to look so bad is because of no pressure being put on the oppositions kick out. They are let up to midfield and our own 45 without a tackle going in. I cant for the life of me understand what benefit this brings.

We are not as bad as we were last Sunday or as good as we thought we were against Mayo. Somewhere in between. Kevin Walsh though has to let them play with the handbrake off. Playing Damien Comer at full forward and no Galway player within 30/40 yards. Bonkers stuff.

mon (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 13/07/2017 13:04:14    2016065

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Replying To neverright:  "I think a lot of posters here are playing the 'yerra' card. It's tough on Galway coming off a bad loss at the weekend and having to play again so quickly. Gallagher is 'nursing' his young players along and obviously hoping that they can grow into a highly competitive team capable of winning titles over the next few years. There are difficult problems for both managers to overcome. Some Galway players seemed to accept defeat far too easily on Sunday, while Donegal players wilted when the pressure came on in the U21 game against Dublin and in their defeat to Tyrone.
They are both good teams but I think it will come down to which manager can instill most fight into his team. It should be a bit easier for Walsh as his team overall are more seasoned and experienced. Galway to win by a point or two."
The 2 week break will be huge for Galway if they had to play this game this weekend then no chance in hell they would have won it, Not so sure about your last line. As in Neil McGee,; Paddy McGrath, Frank McGlynn;, Michael Murphy; Martin O'Reilly, Paddy McBrearty.Karl Lacey, Mark McHugh in the Donegal ranks is the type of experience and seasoned players that Galway don't have. I think this game will go down to a wire might even need extra time but i think Donegal to win narrowly

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 13/07/2017 14:12:45    2016099

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The tussle between Damien Comer and Neil McGee should be interesting, no quarter given I'd say.

The result will depend on how Galway recover from the defeat to Roscommon. If they can recover quickly then I'd expect a really tight game. It really is a difficult game to call as its hard to know exactly where both teams are in terms of form.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 13/07/2017 16:12:25    2016161

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I fancy Donegal by 3!

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 13/07/2017 16:46:22    2016175

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Galway were in a better place against Donegal two years back and still got stuffed. Defensively they're just as bad if not worse. Going in pessimism to a qualifier hasn't done much for us.

Diabhal (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 13/07/2017 17:02:15    2016184

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Replying To Diabhal:  "Galway were in a better place against Donegal two years back and still got stuffed. Defensively they're just as bad if not worse. Going in pessimism to a qualifier hasn't done much for us."
Better place yes in terms of having a run of qualifier wins behind us. In terms of physical conditioning we are far more advanced than 2 years ago and this is one of the reasons we have been able to stay with Mayo in the last 2 seasons. However Sat week will be difficult for a myriad of reasons not least we recover mentally.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 13/07/2017 18:21:07    2016211

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Am I right in thinking that the winners of Galway/Donegal and Cork/Mayo will be in a draw to see who plays the winners of Connaught and Munster?
So could Mayo for example end up playing Roscommon in the All Ireland quarter final?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 13/07/2017 23:39:32    2016322

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Am I right in thinking that the winners of Galway/Donegal and Cork/Mayo will be in a draw to see who plays the winners of Connaught and Munster?
So could Mayo for example end up playing Roscommon in the All Ireland quarter final?"
No to the first - If Cork OR Galway win there is no draw required as Cork cant get Kerry & Galway cant get Ross, no provincial final repeats allowed at this stage.
If Mayo AND Donegal both win then open draw.

timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 14/07/2017 10:25:07    2016410

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Galway had a run out in markievic park sat.looks like there will be up to 4 changes from roscommon game 1 enforced and 3 tactical.1 in the backs and 3 from midfield up.this team could be announced as early as wed.

cornetto (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 17/07/2017 19:09:24    2018339

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Replying To cornetto:  "Galway had a run out in markievic park sat.looks like there will be up to 4 changes from roscommon game 1 enforced and 3 tactical.1 in the backs and 3 from midfield up.this team could be announced as early as wed."
Oh sweet Jesus, I hope that's not true. Just one change in defence? 3 from midfield up?

Kevin seems to be up to his usual tricks then- fiddling about with the strongest area of the team whilst ignoring our biggest problems. I'm glad I'm working this Saturday evening if this is the "gameplan"....

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 497 - 17/07/2017 21:23:38    2018377

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Replying To cornetto:  "Galway had a run out in markievic park sat.looks like there will be up to 4 changes from roscommon game 1 enforced and 3 tactical.1 in the backs and 3 from midfield up.this team could be announced as early as wed."
Galway and Donegal could have named their teams last week, makes no difference as they won't be the starting teams. At this stage I have actually given up looking at the starting lineups until 5 minutes before kick off as most teams make 2/3 changes. I would be in favour of squad numbers for the season.

It is going to be a fascinating game, can Galway recover fron the last day out? I really believe they are a team on the rise and the game against Roscommon was a blip. Always difficult to recover from a defeat in the provincial decider though.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 17/07/2017 21:28:19    2018380

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Galway will beat Donegal. Galway will score goals. Gaillimh abú

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 17/07/2017 22:17:24    2018403

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "Galway and Donegal could have named their teams last week, makes no difference as they won't be the starting teams. At this stage I have actually given up looking at the starting lineups until 5 minutes before kick off as most teams make 2/3 changes. I would be in favour of squad numbers for the season.

It is going to be a fascinating game, can Galway recover fron the last day out? I really believe they are a team on the rise and the game against Roscommon was a blip. Always difficult to recover from a defeat in the provincial decider though."
Once I saw 'kick off' I stopped reading!

MTS (Galway) - Posts: 279 - 18/07/2017 07:47:56    2018474

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Replying To galwayford:  "Galway will beat Donegal. Galway will score goals. Gaillimh abú"
You're Donald Trump and I claim my 10E.
(Next time try and squeeze in a few 'bigly's' or "sad's" for added emphasis. For example:
"Galway will beat Donegal. Bigly. Galway will score goals; huge Goals. The best goals, believe me. It's going to be beautiful. Donegal to go home beaten. Sad. MGGA#")

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 18/07/2017 20:16:43    2018905

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Replying To cornetto:  "Galway had a run out in markievic park sat.looks like there will be up to 4 changes from roscommon game 1 enforced and 3 tactical.1 in the backs and 3 from midfield up.this team could be announced as early as wed."
1 in the backs; would that be the goalie by any chance?
If what you say is true, I can't say I'm surprised. Two weeks is not enough time to ring in dramatic changes from how the team has been coached to play all year. It was good enough (barely) to get us promoted to Div 1, but as every pundit has been saying all year, it is not good enough against Div 1 teams or championship. Not feeling confident at all.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 18/07/2017 20:18:45    2018907

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