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There seems to be a much bigger Agenda against the Sunday Game on here than any prevailing Agenda on the Sunday Game itself.
It's a bit of entertainment lads and should be taken for just that.
Inter county Ref', players or Mgt don't be worrying about the Sunday Game when they're preparing for a match or training.
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Replying To Breffni39: "Any time CO'Cs carry on is highlighted is a good thing." There's the Dublin fan coming out in that post Jimbo...I mean Breff :-)
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Replying To westkerry: "There's the Dublin fan coming out in that post Jimbo...I mean Breff :-)" This has absolutely nothing to do with Dublin in any way, shape or form.
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Replying To Pericles: "Like Yewtree Breffni, I'm not selling the line that Cillian's a saint, but on this occasion he wasn't the instigator. The SG coverage was biased and agenda driven. They must think the GAA disciplinary bodies are a soft touch and incapable of independent thought. It's so outrageously unsubtle at this point as to be insulting to the intelligence of the officials." I don't agree, he got himself involved in the incident.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 10/07/2017 13:47:42
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Is the agenda supposed to be anti-Mayo because I just don't see it lads.
All the top teams get incidents highlighted D Connelly, Tiarnan McCann, Sean Cavanagh.
Some incidents get missed too. Colm Boyle for instance last year against Fermanagh got away with some awful dirt at the end of that game.
As for trial by video, I'm all for it. The game needs cleaning up.
What Harrison did deserves a ban. He was provoked but it's still inexcusable.
To be honest I'd throw out bans left right and centre and then this sort of shit will stop.
If not someone will get seriously injured at some point. Throwing people to the ground down on their neck can not be tolerated. Punching people can't be tolerated. Kicking people on the back of the head can't be tolerated.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4211 - 10/07/2017 13:56:38
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Replying To Breffni39: "I don't agree, he got himself involved in the incident." Your opinion, or can you explain?
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Replying To Whammo86: "Is the agenda supposed to be anti-Mayo because I just don't see it lads.
All the top teams get incidents highlighted D Connelly, Tiarnan McCann, Sean Cavanagh.
Some incidents get missed too. Colm Boyle for instance last year against Fermanagh got away with some awful dirt at the end of that game.
As for trial by video, I'm all for it. The game needs cleaning up.
What Harrison did deserves a ban. He was provoked but it's still inexcusable.
To be honest I'd throw out bans left right and centre and then this sort of shit will stop.
If not someone will get seriously injured at some point. Throwing people to the ground down on their neck can not be tolerated. Punching people can't be tolerated. Kicking people on the back of the head can't be tolerated." So what was Harrison supposed to do, turn blue and pass out? After a 70 minute game that could happen very quickly even if you're exceptionally fit. What the Clare lad was doing was dangerous.
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Replying To Pericles: "Your opinion, or can you explain?" Maybe I need to watch it again but his collision with the keeper instigated the incident and caused the Clare players to react. No doubt you think this was accidental.
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Replying To Pericles: "So what was Harrison supposed to do, turn blue and pass out? After a 70 minute game that could happen very quickly even if you're exceptionally fit. What the Clare lad was doing was dangerous." I think there's a middle ground between going blue and lifting someone and slamming them into the ground.
I'd be quite happy for the Clare lad to also be banned.
As I say, there needs to be a zero tolerance approach to this sort of stuff.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4211 - 10/07/2017 16:15:15
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Replying To Breffni39: "This has absolutely nothing to do with Dublin in any way, shape or form." The same as you have nothing to do with Cavan Jimbo.
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Replying To Breffni39: "Maybe I need to watch it again but his collision with the keeper instigated the incident and caused the Clare players to react. No doubt you think this was accidental." Backs tend to overreact when contact is made with the keeper, intentional or not. I can't say for sure whether the initial contact could have been avoided, but the reaction of the defenders was never going to be different. It'd have been the same if it happened down the other end with Clarke.
Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 10/07/2017 17:09:51
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Replying To Whammo86: "I think there's a middle ground between going blue and lifting someone and slamming them into the ground.
I'd be quite happy for the Clare lad to also be banned.
As I say, there needs to be a zero tolerance approach to this sort of stuff." What's the middle ground bearing in mind he couldn't breath? How long do you think he had to consider a better option to have the stranglehold released? Bear in mind that he'd have been gasping for breath even before the Clare lad got him in the lock. We all breath by instinct and react instinctively if someone cuts it off. It wasn't a case red mist, it was a reaction against black out.
Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 10/07/2017 17:26:22
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Replying To Pericles: "Backs tend to overreact when contact is made with the keeper, intentional or not. I can't say for sure whether the initial contact could have been avoided, but the reaction of the defenders was never going to be different. It'd have been the same if it happened down the other end with Clarke." Yeah and CO'C would've got himself involved in that situation as well :)
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 10/07/2017 17:31:09
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Replying To Pericles: "What's the middle ground bearing in mind he couldn't breath? How long do you think he had to consider a better option to have the stranglehold released? Bear in mind that he'd have been gasping for breath even before the Clare lad got him in the lock. We all breath by instinct and react instinctively if someone cuts it off. It wasn't a case red mist, it was a reaction against black out." You're having a laugh mate talking about not being able to breathe.
He was trying to lift Sexton even before Sexton had him in a headlock.
He is the aggressor pretty much throughout, Sexton only goes near his neck when Harrison starts boring his head into Sexton's chest.
Around the neck is dangerous stuff and should be punished but let's not pretend that up to that point Harrison was completely innocent and just body slammed Sexton purely in self defence. He was able to be put in a headlock because he lowered his head so that he could get at Sexton's knee.
If he'd relented when Sexton had him in the headlock the situation would have calmed long before he passed out.
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Ah lads come on, the best part of the non Dublin support on here has spent the last few years telling us how Connolly always reacts when poked and that when he does It's his fault. O'connor swung and connected with a player. A few years ago when Connolly was being held down and swung out and didn't connect, there were calls for his head. Which is it? Protect the player or is it only certain players that are entitled to that protection?
Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 10/07/2017 18:59:31
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The title of the thread is The Sunday Game...do certain pundits have an agenda. Well when you have a certain pundit who suddenly appears on the show who is an employee of a certain co board then that said pundit cannot have a neutral stance on any issue. No matter how hard he tries he cannot be neutral. He is in full time employment with a high profile county board. Couldn't be any clearer.
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don't forget the Yerra Kerry pundits who always play down their chances. Masters at doing it.
and Kilkenny pundits talking up opponents and that KK have a huge battle ahead
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The new Sunday game team should be as follows:
Sunday game day show
- Presenter: Colm Parkinson
Sunday game night show
- Presenter: Dara O'Cinneade
Mid week summer highlights and discussion show
- Presenter: Colm Parkinson
Saturday game live show:
- Dara O'Cinneade
Team of commentators:
- Daragh Maloney
- The newstalk radio presenter I cant think of his name but is excellent
Team of Football pundits to cover all shows above:
- Steven McDonnell
- Cian Ward
- James Horan
- Anthony Moyles (Co Commentator)
- Ciaran Whelan
- Tomas O'Se
- Tomas Quinn (Sideline analysis)
- Aaron Kernan
- Padraig Joyce
Team of Hurling pundits to cover all shows
- Eddie Brennan
- Liam Sheedy
- Jackie Tyrell
- Anthony Daly
- Eoin Kelly
- Shane Stapleton
- Michael Duignan (Co Commentator)
The Sunday game highlights show needs to be urgently split in two as there is to much of an imbalance at the minute. RTE now just show full highlights of games already shown live and then a thirty second clip of games not shown on TV. Match of the day manage to show equal highlights of up to ten games in the space of 1 hour 30 minutes so RTE should be able to do the same. Cut out the add breaks and shorten the nonsense that is blurted out by pundits after every game. Keep it short and precise and to the point, not like it is now where Joe Brolly can go on a rampage for 15 minutes about Pat Spillane and Diarmuid Connolly. Use the Sunday night show to show the games back and have a short discussion about them, like match of the day, and use the midweek show to have a more analytical discussion about each game, like the GAA hour podcast show does now. Also the day time shows should start earlier to have a worthwhile analytical discussion before each match, which sky sports do now and also the show should end later than it does in order to have a decent debrief after a game, which sky also do. What we have now is say for example last sunday. The Connaught final threw in at 2:00pm, the Sunday game show started at 1:15pm. They spent the first 15/20 minutes talking about the Munster hurling final, which threw in at 4:00pm and they did not start discussing the football until twenty minutes before throw in. Half time in the football was Pat Spillane giving his opinion on whether he was enjoying himself or not and Dessie nodding along beside him. Not insightful clips or analysis between them. And it just continues in this vane every week. Change is required from the start of next year and if I have to listen to certain prominent commentators commentating on another game never mind an all Ireland final I will kick the TV in. RTE need to stop moaning about Sky being given rights to show GAA games and step up to the plate. Sky have raised the bar and RTE seem happy to wallow under it with there hap hazard coverage that they actually think is comprehensive. Sky also show back quality highlights of games mid week at the minute. They have been getting away with it for to long now.
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Replying To BigJoe14: "The new Sunday game team should be as follows:
Sunday game day show
- Presenter: Colm Parkinson
Sunday game night show
- Presenter: Dara O'Cinneade
Mid week summer highlights and discussion show
- Presenter: Colm Parkinson
Saturday game live show:
- Dara O'Cinneade
Team of commentators:
- Daragh Maloney
- The newstalk radio presenter I cant think of his name but is excellent
Team of Football pundits to cover all shows above:
- Steven McDonnell
- Cian Ward
- James Horan
- Anthony Moyles (Co Commentator)
- Ciaran Whelan
- Tomas O'Se
- Tomas Quinn (Sideline analysis)
- Aaron Kernan
- Padraig Joyce
Team of Hurling pundits to cover all shows
- Eddie Brennan
- Liam Sheedy
- Jackie Tyrell
- Anthony Daly
- Eoin Kelly
- Shane Stapleton
- Michael Duignan (Co Commentator)
The Sunday game highlights show needs to be urgently split in two as there is to much of an imbalance at the minute. RTE now just show full highlights of games already shown live and then a thirty second clip of games not shown on TV. Match of the day manage to show equal highlights of up to ten games in the space of 1 hour 30 minutes so RTE should be able to do the same. Cut out the add breaks and shorten the nonsense that is blurted out by pundits after every game. Keep it short and precise and to the point, not like it is now where Joe Brolly can go on a rampage for 15 minutes about Pat Spillane and Diarmuid Connolly. Use the Sunday night show to show the games back and have a short discussion about them, like match of the day, and use the midweek show to have a more analytical discussion about each game, like the GAA hour podcast show does now. Also the day time shows should start earlier to have a worthwhile analytical discussion before each match, which sky sports do now and also the show should end later than it does in order to have a decent debrief after a game, which sky also do. What we have now is say for example last sunday. The Connaught final threw in at 2:00pm, the Sunday game show started at 1:15pm. They spent the first 15/20 minutes talking about the Munster hurling final, which threw in at 4:00pm and they did not start discussing the football until twenty minutes before throw in. Half time in the football was Pat Spillane giving his opinion on whether he was enjoying himself or not and Dessie nodding along beside him. Not insightful clips or analysis between them. And it just continues in this vane every week. Change is required from the start of next year and if I have to listen to certain prominent commentators commentating on another game never mind an all Ireland final I will kick the TV in. RTE need to stop moaning about Sky being given rights to show GAA games and step up to the plate. Sky have raised the bar and RTE seem happy to wallow under it with there hap hazard coverage that they actually think is comprehensive. Sky also show back quality highlights of games mid week at the minute. They have been getting away with it for to long now." More thinking along these lines from RTE would be great. Wouldn't hold my breath though. I'd throw Mike Finnerty in there as commentator and would probably change a few names on your list but I'm sure alot of people on here would agree with your general ideas.
Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 11/07/2017 10:32:43
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Replying To BigJoe14: "The new Sunday game team should be as follows:
Sunday game day show
- Presenter: Colm Parkinson
Sunday game night show
- Presenter: Dara O'Cinneade
Mid week summer highlights and discussion show
- Presenter: Colm Parkinson
Saturday game live show:
- Dara O'Cinneade
Team of commentators:
- Daragh Maloney
- The newstalk radio presenter I cant think of his name but is excellent
Team of Football pundits to cover all shows above:
- Steven McDonnell
- Cian Ward
- James Horan
- Anthony Moyles (Co Commentator)
- Ciaran Whelan
- Tomas O'Se
- Tomas Quinn (Sideline analysis)
- Aaron Kernan
- Padraig Joyce
Team of Hurling pundits to cover all shows
- Eddie Brennan
- Liam Sheedy
- Jackie Tyrell
- Anthony Daly
- Eoin Kelly
- Shane Stapleton
- Michael Duignan (Co Commentator)
The Sunday game highlights show needs to be urgently split in two as there is to much of an imbalance at the minute. RTE now just show full highlights of games already shown live and then a thirty second clip of games not shown on TV. Match of the day manage to show equal highlights of up to ten games in the space of 1 hour 30 minutes so RTE should be able to do the same. Cut out the add breaks and shorten the nonsense that is blurted out by pundits after every game. Keep it short and precise and to the point, not like it is now where Joe Brolly can go on a rampage for 15 minutes about Pat Spillane and Diarmuid Connolly. Use the Sunday night show to show the games back and have a short discussion about them, like match of the day, and use the midweek show to have a more analytical discussion about each game, like the GAA hour podcast show does now. Also the day time shows should start earlier to have a worthwhile analytical discussion before each match, which sky sports do now and also the show should end later than it does in order to have a decent debrief after a game, which sky also do. What we have now is say for example last sunday. The Connaught final threw in at 2:00pm, the Sunday game show started at 1:15pm. They spent the first 15/20 minutes talking about the Munster hurling final, which threw in at 4:00pm and they did not start discussing the football until twenty minutes before throw in. Half time in the football was Pat Spillane giving his opinion on whether he was enjoying himself or not and Dessie nodding along beside him. Not insightful clips or analysis between them. And it just continues in this vane every week. Change is required from the start of next year and if I have to listen to certain prominent commentators commentating on another game never mind an all Ireland final I will kick the TV in. RTE need to stop moaning about Sky being given rights to show GAA games and step up to the plate. Sky have raised the bar and RTE seem happy to wallow under it with there hap hazard coverage that they actually think is comprehensive. Sky also show back quality highlights of games mid week at the minute. They have been getting away with it for to long now." Great post Big Joe.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 11/07/2017 10:42:09
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