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Cork vs Waterford (Hurling)

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I cannot wait till this, will probably be an absolutely brilliant match of hurling. Going for a Waterford win here. But may the best team win.
Waterford 2+

oakleafersir (Derry) - 11/06/2017 23:11:36    1998189

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If Waterford have any notions of winning the AI this year which Im sure they have then Im expecting a big performance on Sunday. Could be a great game if Cork play like they did against tip. Waterford by 4.

ZUL10 (Clare) - 12/06/2017 11:42:55    1998374

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Can't really read into Waterford form an indifferent league and Cork beat them handy. Hard to know what work has been done since but they have some fantastic young players. I get the feeling Cork might just pip them in a close match based on the fact they already beat Tipp and are tuned in already to championship pace. Can't wait though hopefully another cracker in store.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - 12/06/2017 12:01:10    1998391

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I think Waterford will be too strong in this one. Although we all thought Cork didn't have much hope going into the game v Tipperary and they produced a wonderful display in Thurles. I just don't see the Cork forwards getting the space again that they got v Tipp. It'll be close but I think Waterford by 4/5 points maybe.

MesAmis (Dublin) - 12/06/2017 12:05:03    1998394

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Very hard to call this one. Hats off to Cork for their win over Tipp, if they beat Waterford they will be a seriously hard team to stop this year. Whoever loses it just adds another giant into the mix of the back door.

slayer (Limerick) - 12/06/2017 12:57:15    1998435

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Waterford will win this handy. They will shut down the middle third and won't be like Tipp and not lay a finger on a Cork player for 70 minutes. Can't see Waterford slipping up this year it's make or break for them.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - 12/06/2017 19:37:34    1998713

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Replying To slayer:  "Very hard to call this one. Hats off to Cork for their win over Tipp, if they beat Waterford they will be a seriously hard team to stop this year. Whoever loses it just adds another giant into the mix of the back door."
Was just about to say the same, whoever loses this is adding another huge team to the back door minefield. I think Waterford will win this, they might not have had a great league but I still think they are a very good side and are looking far beyond May.

Pinkie (Wexford) - 13/06/2017 09:29:59    1998885

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Something special about Waterford-Cork games. Maybe it's pure nostalgia because of the games in the 00's, but always get excited about this fixture. Waterford have the better players overall but Waterford haven't had a competitive game since the collapse against Galway so I think Cork's run out against Tipp levels it up. Think Waterford's half back line/midfield will probably swing it their way but wouldn't shock me it Cork won it. Tipped Waterford to win it this year after the replay loss against Kilkenny so gotta stick with them. ~PHS

Pope_has_spoken (Dublin) - 15/06/2017 11:37:10    1999882

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Replying To therealtmo:  "Waterford will win this handy. They will shut down the middle third and won't be like Tipp and not lay a finger on a Cork player for 70 minutes. Can't see Waterford slipping up this year it's make or break for them."
I'm afraid I'd have to agree on that. Waterford are also a team Galway will be hoping to avoid for the same reasons

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 15/06/2017 17:09:29    2000033

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'm afraid I'd have to agree on that. Waterford are also a team Galway will be hoping to avoid for the same reasons"
I disagree. 1: Galway won't be hoping to avoid any team this year. 2: Galway are the team best equipped to deal with Waterford's system of playing.

Westfester (Limerick) - 15/06/2017 18:17:58    2000062

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'm afraid I'd have to agree on that. Waterford are also a team Galway will be hoping to avoid for the same reasons"
I disagree. 1: Galway won't be hoping to avoid any team this year. 2: Galway are the team best equipped to deal with Waterford's system of playing.

Westfester (Limerick) - 15/06/2017 18:27:49    2000068

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Its hard to call this one,if Cork hit their Tipp form they might just shade it,Waterford will be hard to beat this year if they can build on last years performances.

mooncat (Kilkenny) - 15/06/2017 19:06:27    2000082

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Waterford need to play like they did in the drawn game last year to win the all Ireland. If they go back to the sweeper system, they won't win anything. Also Gleeson needs to add vision, passing and decision-making to his game. If he does he can lead Waterford to a final.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - 15/06/2017 20:30:09    2000113

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Hard one to call but I'll stick fine neck out and go for Waterford. They have been eerily quiet. I like McGrath, I think he is a good coach and motivator. I find it strange that a lot of Waterford people want him out.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 15/06/2017 20:40:27    2000118

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Hard one to call but I'll stick fine neck out and go for Waterford. They have been eerily quiet. I like McGrath, I think he is a good coach and motivator. I find it strange that a lot of Waterford people want him out."
Really???

keeper7 (Longford) - 16/06/2017 02:05:15    2000184

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Replying To HurlingSnob:  "Waterford need to play like they did in the drawn game last year to win the all Ireland. If they go back to the sweeper system, they won't win anything. Also Gleeson needs to add vision, passing and decision-making to his game. If he does he can lead Waterford to a final."
Totally agree on Gleeson, has all the attributes of a top class hurler EXCEPT decision making. Makes too many wrong choices as yet (he's still young) to be a Shefflin like figure for Waterford. Waterford will crowd out their halfback line and midfield to deny Lehane and Co space and seek to create space up the other end for their forwards, nothing unusual in that, but leaving the likes of Maurice on his own with no one within 30 yards of him is awful to watch. They'll pick off the long range points, but to win an AI you need a real goal threat and unless Maurice gets a bit of support they won't get them. We'll find out if the Cork rising like mushrooms in the morning is for real or a one off this weekend.

bricktop (Down) - 16/06/2017 08:41:37    2000208

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Replying To Pope_has_spoken:  "Something special about Waterford-Cork games. Maybe it's pure nostalgia because of the games in the 00's, but always get excited about this fixture. Waterford have the better players overall but Waterford haven't had a competitive game since the collapse against Galway so I think Cork's run out against Tipp levels it up. Think Waterford's half back line/midfield will probably swing it their way but wouldn't shock me it Cork won it. Tipped Waterford to win it this year after the replay loss against Kilkenny so gotta stick with them. ~PHS"
Waterford lost that replay to Kilkenny who were well beaten by Tipp in the final.Tipp were very lucky to beat Galway by 1 point in the semi , the same Tipp who wiped the floor with Waterford in the Munster final. But you fancy Waterford? Don't understand that thinking.

Condorman (Dublin) - 16/06/2017 10:55:37    2000259

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Travelling more in hope than confidence. Conor Lehane doubtful, even if he plays unlikely to be at his best, will be a big loss to Cork. All Posters here calling it correctly, Waterford will play the extra defender & close down space. Cork are fast & lively but still lack physicality, Waterford will have been rubbing their hands when they looked at the Cork/Tipp game. This is set up for them and I expect them to pull through. For Cork to win Kingston will have to have a Plan B. Whacking balls downfield won't work, Cork will have to keep possession out of defence & try to pick out a guy in a bit of space 50 or 60 yards out & try & create scoring opportunities from that range. Having said all that I held out no hope that we would beat Tipp, a win on Sunday & I'll be dreaming of an All Ireland.

corkcelt (Cork) - 16/06/2017 13:52:52    2000344

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Replying To corkcelt:  "Travelling more in hope than confidence. Conor Lehane doubtful, even if he plays unlikely to be at his best, will be a big loss to Cork. All Posters here calling it correctly, Waterford will play the extra defender & close down space. Cork are fast & lively but still lack physicality, Waterford will have been rubbing their hands when they looked at the Cork/Tipp game. This is set up for them and I expect them to pull through. For Cork to win Kingston will have to have a Plan B. Whacking balls downfield won't work, Cork will have to keep possession out of defence & try to pick out a guy in a bit of space 50 or 60 yards out & try & create scoring opportunities from that range. Having said all that I held out no hope that we would beat Tipp, a win on Sunday & I'll be dreaming of an All Ireland."
I can see Waterford stifling the free flowing Cork attack just by pressurising the ball coming out of the Cork defence. Coleman and Co won't know what's hit them and then dirty ball will be going into Horgan, Lehane, Cadogan and Co, with only Harnedy able to compete in the air. Waterford to pull away in the end and win by 7 or so points.

bricktop (Down) - 16/06/2017 15:51:02    2000405

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Replying To keeper7:  "Really???"
About McGrath? Yeah, a lot of Waterford fans want him gone.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 16/06/2017 15:54:18    2000407

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