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Anyone got a link to how many full time coaches their are in each county? There's this which states how much each county receives in funding but I recall a lot of press a year ago about the Dubs receiving about 50% of total funding for coaching but this doesn't tally with this article. http://www.the42.ie/gaa-dublin-funding-3217517-Feb2017/ TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 04/05/2017 09:58:22 1984388 Link
Replying To TheWestIsAwake: "Anyone got a link to how many full time coaches their are in each county? There's this which states how much each county receives in funding but I recall a lot of press a year ago about the Dubs receiving about 50% of total funding for coaching but this doesn't tally with this article. There" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.the42.ie/gaa-dublin-funding-3217517-Feb2017/" There was a 47% number floating around. It wasn't the correct figure. It summed the money counties received directly and divided Dublin's amount by the total. It didn't take into consideration the money allocated to provincial councils. Dublin pay their coaches from their own allocation whereas other counties have their coaches paid from the provincial council allocation. There has been loads of outrage on this but it's been based on bad information. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 04/05/2017 14:58:57 1984489 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "There was a 47% number floating around. It wasn't the correct figure. It summed the money counties received directly and divided Dublin's amount by the total. It didn't take into consideration the money allocated to provincial councils. Dublin pay their coaches from their own allocation whereas other counties have their coaches paid from the provincial council allocation. There has been loads of outrage on this but it's been based on bad information." Cheers, wasn't aware of that. Its still a scandalous amount and really needs addressing. Galway look like their been utterly shafted with the amount they receive given the size of county and population. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 05/05/2017 09:37:56 1984635 Link
Replying To TheWestIsAwake: "Cheers, wasn't aware of that. Its still a scandalous amount and really needs addressing. Galway look like their been utterly shafted with the amount they receive given the size of county and population." I don't know about that. It's 14% to a county that's about 20% of the population. Seems ball park ok Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 05/05/2017 11:33:53 1984659 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "I don't know about that. It's 14% to a county that's about 20% of the population. Seems ball park ok" If you want to look at in those simplistic terms their hard done by in terms of funding then. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 05/05/2017 11:57:48 1984663 Link
Anyone know how many clubs in Dublin employ their own coaches for games development? TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 05/05/2017 11:59:35 1984664 Link
And on the fake news goes.. So much misinformation in this supposed age of information jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 05/05/2017 12:22:59 1984665 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "And on the fake news goes.. So much misinformation in this supposed age of information" Feel free to put me on the right track? TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 05/05/2017 12:50:49 1984673 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "I don't know about that. It's 14% to a county that's about 20% of the population. Seems ball park ok" But we are always told they have loads and loads of competing sports which means they don't have the same % playing GAA Which is it? Because if that is true and I believe it is you can't use their massive population as justification for the funding figures as it doesn't reflect the GAA playing popualtion KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 05/05/2017 13:04:35 1984677 Link
Replying To TheWestIsAwake: "Feel free to put me on the right track?" http://www.hoganstand.com/Forum/MessagePage.aspx?PageNumber=0&TopicID=98705 Done to bits already feel free to read the 368 posts , if that does not suffice there are many other Posts all the same under different banners were this subject has been done to death , BORING Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/05/2017 13:16:08 1984679 Link
Replying To KYTotalFootball: "But we are always told they have loads and loads of competing sports which means they don't have the same % playing GAA Which is it? Because if that is true and I believe it is you can't use their massive population as justification for the funding figures as it doesn't reflect the GAA playing popualtion" http://www.hoganstand.com/Forum/MessagePage.aspx?PageNumber=0&TopicID=98705 Are posters honestly suffering from a dose of the Finding Dory , have a read of the 368 yes 368 posts covering this rubbish already , coming out with the moral outrage as if you've had your head in the sand for god knows how long Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 05/05/2017 13:18:04 1984681 Link
Replying To KYTotalFootball: "But we are always told they have loads and loads of competing sports which means they don't have the same % playing GAA Which is it? Because if that is true and I believe it is you can't use their massive population as justification for the funding figures as it doesn't reflect the GAA playing popualtion" Ah catch a grip. It looks ball park. To be honest I couldn't be arsed looking into the full ins and outs of how much each county gets. I can't see how without someone doing it themselves that 14% for Dublin is in anyway scandalous. There's comfortably 1m in Northern Ireland have 0 interest in GAA by the way. So that's a plus for Dublin getting more. Then you've got Dublin having the youngest population in the country is a plus for them. Then you've got Dublin having the most room for potential growth. I don't know for sure how much they should get but I do know there's a pack of whingers on here who'll use any argument they can find to say they get too much. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 05/05/2017 14:55:26 1984721 Link
Dublin clubs fund their coaches to 50% cost The time allocation between club county and school is agreed with the county board Now if my club was offered to share a full time coach with another few clubs, half funded from the county board we would find the money somewhere Unfortunately we're in the wrong county! valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 08/05/2017 20:18:45 1985297 Link
Replying To valley84: "Dublin clubs fund their coaches to 50% cost The time allocation between club county and school is agreed with the county board Now if my club was offered to share a full time coach with another few clubs, half funded from the county board we would find the money somewhere Unfortunately we're in the wrong county!" There is a massive difference between a game promotional officer and a coach , a GPO is forbidden to train adult teams , they are in club / area to promote the sport , we have a GPO a 26 year old female who is fantastic with kids , not one of our adult players would have a clue who she is , when it's put out that Dublin have Full time coaches it's bizarre the ideas people get , my son is on this years minor squad for hurling , 4 full time school teachers unpaid run the gig , but that doesn't fit the narrative that some want to believe Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 09/05/2017 06:42:30 1985339 Link
What are the Dubs doing differently at u21 level that others aren't? In recent years their record is outstanding and its not because they've been dominant at minor level. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 09/05/2017 09:44:24 1985379 Link
There is a massive difference between a game promotional officer and a coach , a GPO is forbidden to train adult teams , they are in club / area to promote the sport , we have a GPO a 26 year old female who is fantastic with kids , not one of our adult players would have a clue who she is , when it's put out that Dublin have Full time coaches it's bizarre the ideas people get , my son is on this years minor squad for hurling , 4 full time school teachers unpaid run the gig , but that doesn't fit the narrative that some want to believe Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts:4077 - 09/05/2017 Some people just don't seem to understand the role of GPO's though. The Financial Doping thread was based on the fact that Dublin receive x amount per registered player and this goes towards GPO's. Because obviously GPO's only work with registered players and clubs, don't go around local schools and don't work with the various LSP's in promoting the games to kids who've never played before… if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 09/05/2017 09:50:15 1985382 Link
Replying To TheWestIsAwake: "What are the Dubs doing differently at u21 level that others aren't? In recent years their record is outstanding and its not because they've been dominant at minor level." Minor is a funny one, i dont really think its indictive of huge potential coming through, every provincial has a different system as someone said the other day you can loose two games and still win the championship. Its also very possible to win straw ones depending on the draw. Lads are at an age when some are more physcally developed then others and look great prospects then dont live up to the billing come under 21, equally other lads dont develop physically to match technical skill and fade away. I think minor is very like the Junior Cert and U 21 much more the leaving cert. Donegal well beat the Dublin All Ireland winning team at minor level yet were beaten at U21, Kerry as well with their good minor team were unable to transition from minor to U21 success. Of course im not saying any of those players wont go on to have inter county careers, just that the minor championship isnt a great marker for future success. I cant think of a county that has great recent minor success and gone on to enjoy a similar period of domincance at U21 or senior level, in the way that counties who enjoy U21 success seems to carry over to senior. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 09/05/2017 10:45:38 1985408 Link
Replying To if_in_doubt: "There is a massive difference between a game promotional officer and a coach , a GPO is forbidden to train adult teams , they are in club / area to promote the sport , we have a GPO a 26 year old female who is fantastic with kids , not one of our adult players would have a clue who she is , when it's put out that Dublin have Full time coaches it's bizarre the ideas people get , my son is on this years minor squad for hurling , 4 full time school teachers unpaid run the gig , but that doesn't fit the narrative that some want to believe Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts:4077 - 09/05/2017 Some people just don't seem to understand the role of GPO's though. The Financial Doping thread was based on the fact that Dublin receive x amount per registered player and this goes towards GPO's. Because obviously GPO's only work with registered players and clubs, don't go around local schools and don't work with the various LSP's in promoting the games to kids who've never played before…" clubs would hugely benefit from having that full time link between schools and the club and the GPOs in Dublin are occasionally used by adult and underage teams in clubs valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 09/05/2017 10:48:56 1985410 Link
If all those GPO's aren't as great as they are on the tin we will gladly take some of them in Kerry and I'm sure other counties would feel the same KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 09/05/2017 13:49:32 1985467 Link
Replying To KYTotalFootball: "If all those GPO's aren't as great as they are on the tin we will gladly take some of them in Kerry and I'm sure other counties would feel the same" Think it might be a fair trek every day from Dublin to Kerry for the coaches , but then again aren't you guys born brilliant sure what could a Dublin coach teach a Kerryman eh ? Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 09/05/2017 14:09:04 1985475 Link