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as the dust settles and we look back at the events in tipp v wexford...you cant but mention davy fitz. what is the general (and truthful thought) about his display today?? davy is a passionate man...a seriously passionate man about hurling, there are probably fewer more passionate than himself....but does he step over the mark? did he overdue it today? will he be punished/suspended?? you never saw sheedy cody mcgrath daly getting as worked up?? is there a bit of it for show or is he trying to psychologically get into the heads of the wexford boys to lift them by doing what he did today???

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 16/04/2017 23:44:40    1980008

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I feel the word 'passionate' is used far too readily by Davy's apologists. We are all passionate about the sports we love but we all understand and know that there are lines that shouldn't be crossed and that 'passion' is no excuse if they are crossed. Davy crossed the line yesterday both literally and figuratively .What he did could have inflamed the situation.Thankfully it didn't . I believe the authorities need to take some action against him though. What he did shouldn't be glossed over.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - 17/04/2017 00:34:57    1980020

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If Gavin, Fitzmaurice or even Mickey Harte did that there would be an eruption on here, that's for sure ha, but let's be honest, Davy is Davy, why is anyone surprised, if they are. It will be his undoing at some stage.

realdub (Dublin) - 17/04/2017 00:44:06    1980026

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In fairness the refereeing decision that sparked it was shocking. I've no doubt that Fitzgerald was trying to spark the players. But for some very poor goals conceded, they held their own. Wexford punching above their weight under Fitzy and yes if this was football and a prominent manager in that sport, this board and the media would go into meltdown. He should be cited for it, no question.

Joxer (Dublin) - 17/04/2017 01:05:01    1980027

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does he step over the mark? - Yes

did he overdue it today? - Absolutely

will he be punished/suspended?? - Will he ? Maybe, Should he ? Absolutely 100% yes..

you never saw sheedy cody mcgrath daly getting as worked up?? - This isn't a question.

is there a bit of it for show or is he trying to psychologically get into the heads of the wexford boys to lift them by doing what he did today??? - Don't know, But showed a total lack of discipline.

waynoI (Dublin) - 17/04/2017 01:27:38    1980030

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Not condoning his behaviour he did overstep the mark 100% but 2 things on this 1. Before he got involved with Jason Forde,Forde pushed him away with his hurl. A player striking an non playing official in any way is poor to say the least 2. Although it didn't have a major impact on the final result this all came on the back of Kirwan's decision not to award a free out prior to tipp's 2nd goal, baffling didn't do it justice as it was such a blatant free out. For what it's worth it taught he gave questionable calls against both teams today

wexico15 (Wexford) - 17/04/2017 01:28:06    1980031

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We're all talking about Davy. What about the awful mistake of referee which cost Wexford a goal and caused the whole thing ?

michael (Cork) - 17/04/2017 07:43:31    1980037

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Personally couldn't care less about what he did, he done what the vast majority of the wexford support felt like doing at the time, what about the tipp players confronting him, are they spared a bit of attention. The bizarre thing about the whole incident was a Wexford player was the only one booked. As Davy said himself after it was a calculated move to gee up the Wexford lads after another blow on the pitch and to be quite honest from that moment up the referee actually went easier on us. I'm sure there will be plenty of people taking the moral high ground with the "won't somebody think of the children" approach been taken by many but as far as I'm concerned Davy as long as your over Wexford don't change one bit, I'm only delighted to see a bit of fight and passion from the sideline.

tearintom (Wexford) - 17/04/2017 08:20:01    1980041

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He did wrong. He admitted it. However this days there are less and less characters in GAA. I like him. His heart is in the right place. Did he do anything that over the top? We have seen other managers shouldering each other on the sideline and showing 'passion'. Davy does take it a step further but by god it's entertaining. Let's not go over the top like on social media.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - 17/04/2017 08:26:55    1980042

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If the referee's and linesmen are 40 yards behind the play its not Davy's fault. Also I think Niall O'Meara and especially Jason Forde shouldnt have went near him. Now I'm not saying that what he done was correct but the linesman on that side plus the 4th official are as much to blame. There should be a Technical area like in soccer where the management are not allowed to leave or you take your beef up with the nearest linesman or 4th official who are all part of the refereeing team. I don't want to see him banned because his a character and will back his team 100%. His done wonders for Wexford hurling in the short few months his been there. There was at least 3 free out's in that sequence of play leading up to the goal and its decisions like that which irke players , management and supporters in the GAA. No wonder everyone goes mad in the head and look Davy lost his cool and rightly so but entering the pitch should have been the last thing he should have done. He takes the game very very seriously and I cant wait to see them have a crack off Kilkenny in the championship. That will be some game down in Wexford Park.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - 17/04/2017 08:45:50    1980045

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He needs a long ban in my opinion. Becuase if not then you can have mentors or subs and run in and do the same. Also if no ban sends a message to all its ok to run on the ptich if you disagree wtih a call. So whats to stop supporters doing it.

witnof (Dublin) - 17/04/2017 09:06:54    1980049

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i think he will get a one match sideline ban....but then does forde get punished for his part of it too? the more i look at it its worse its looking.

juniorjudge (Waterford) - 17/04/2017 09:38:59    1980059

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Replying To realdub:  "If Gavin, Fitzmaurice or even Mickey Harte did that there would be an eruption on here, that's for sure ha, but let's be honest, Davy is Davy, why is anyone surprised, if they are. It will be his undoing at some stage."
If any manager or team official carried on like that in a club game they'd be put out of the ground or pitch same should have happened here he should have been sent away from the pitch we all love Davy but surely this carry on can't be tolerated action has to be taken by the authorities

runnerin (Meath) - 17/04/2017 09:40:24    1980060

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"Now I'm not saying that what he done was correct but the linesman on that side plus the 4th official are as much to blame."
WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts:1286 - 17/04/2017 08:45:50 1980045


there is absolutely no condoning the behaviour of our manager yesterday.we are a proud GAA county and i hate seeing us brought in to that sort of nonsense.
there is no disputing it was an abysmal decision,but the linesman was right in front of it,the referee was not.the linesman is also a referee,why cant he call the referee over and say "here diarmuid,you got that wrong"?
it is a complete cop out for the linesman not to help his referee.likewise i have said for a long time,umpires should also all be referees,or at least 1 at each goal,at this level.they are perfectly placed to call a penalty,much better placed than a referee sprinting from 40 yards away is.

well done tipp and they deserved to win.they are still the ones to beat.i am proud of our men that we stood up to them for 60 minutes,i am not proud of our managers behaviour.

perfect10 (Wexford) - 17/04/2017 10:01:22    1980066

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He did wrong 100% but let's be honest we all loved it , hurling without Davy Fitz would be a lesser place imo. Tipperary couldn't buy a free after Davy came on the field so maybe there was some method to his madness.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - 17/04/2017 10:13:31    1980071

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Look,if they just tell him to cut back on the calf nuts he'll be fine.

Muilleann (Tipperary) - 17/04/2017 11:54:22    1980096

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We all know Davy overstepped the mark and it will be interesting to see how the GAA deal with it. However, it's time the GAA dealt with poor officials, especially linesmen and umpires. They should be assessed after each game and made fully aware of their role to assist the referee. In important instances like this one, the officials should have to answer to a committee as well, shake them out of their slumber or else replace them with competent and active linesmen and umpires.

baire (Galway) - 17/04/2017 12:03:48    1980097

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I can't help but feel there is a little bit of good old Irish begrudgery and resentment from a minority of Dublin supporters towards Wexford given the relative success of our hurlers over the last 3 months in getting promoted against all the odds. Comments like 'punching above their weight under Davy' to the childish 'we'll be passing you by on your way down to Div 1B next year' suggest that such an attitude prevails among a few. Maybe there is a feeling that 'that should be us'. Dublin are a fine team with a bright future, but the hype generated by the Dublin media over the last few years has created an unrealistic sense of expectation and perhaps entitlement (when you read and hear the same thing over and over you begin to believe it) given all the money that has been pumped into Dublin hurling. Perhaps the GAA were deluding themself into believing that a successful Dublin hurling team would generate as much support as the superb Dublin football team. Maybe they even dreamed of 80,000 in Croke Park for Dublin hurling games in July/August/September. Who knows? Wexford are re-emerging as a genuine hurling force,the hurlers are there with or without Davy Fitz, but we have a long way to go to get back to the days when we were competing with the best on a regular basis from the 50s to the 90s, and to the standards expected in our proud hurling county. Obviously a resurgent Wexford are a threat to Dublin's current perceived status within the game in the eyes of a few people. It's interesting that there are a lot of people disillusioned with Ger Cunningham's management approach and the manner in which he prefers to plan without some of the more established Dublin players. I wonder if some Dublin fans had a choice at this point in time between Ger Cunningham and Davy Fitz who would they choose? (all hands on heart of course). Kilkenny are different in their attitude of course. There's always been a healthy rivalry between Kilkenny and Wexford down the years, I remember in my lifetime seeing Wexford beating 'em in '76, '77, '81, '84, '88, '96, '97 and '04 in the championship. Tough competitive games usually, apart from the pastings they dished out in more recent years to Wexford (and of course other teams), but there has rarely been, if ever, a bad stroke or nasty comment. They are the first to congratulate you, and always genuine with their wishes and hopes for the year ahead when you do beat them. For many, many people in Wexford the feeling is mutual - that's based on respect for each other based on a traditional rivalry forged since the 1950s. I genuinely wish Dublin well, the more hurling teams challenging the 'big guns' the better. Maybe some of their 'fans' will acknowledge that there are other teams in Leinster capable of competing consistently for honours. Here's hoping for a great championship in 2017.

Sliotharyslope (Wexford) - 17/04/2017 12:53:39    1980115

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Replying To Sliotharyslope:  "I can't help but feel there is a little bit of good old Irish begrudgery and resentment from a minority of Dublin supporters towards Wexford given the relative success of our hurlers over the last 3 months in getting promoted against all the odds. Comments like 'punching above their weight under Davy' to the childish 'we'll be passing you by on your way down to Div 1B next year' suggest that such an attitude prevails among a few. Maybe there is a feeling that 'that should be us'. Dublin are a fine team with a bright future, but the hype generated by the Dublin media over the last few years has created an unrealistic sense of expectation and perhaps entitlement (when you read and hear the same thing over and over you begin to believe it) given all the money that has been pumped into Dublin hurling. Perhaps the GAA were deluding themself into believing that a successful Dublin hurling team would generate as much support as the superb Dublin football team. Maybe they even dreamed of 80,000 in Croke Park for Dublin hurling games in July/August/September. Who knows? Wexford are re-emerging as a genuine hurling force,the hurlers are there with or without Davy Fitz, but we have a long way to go to get back to the days when we were competing with the best on a regular basis from the 50s to the 90s, and to the standards expected in our proud hurling county. Obviously a resurgent Wexford are a threat to Dublin's current perceived status within the game in the eyes of a few people. It's interesting that there are a lot of people disillusioned with Ger Cunningham's management approach and the manner in which he prefers to plan without some of the more established Dublin players. I wonder if some Dublin fans had a choice at this point in time between Ger Cunningham and Davy Fitz who would they choose? (all hands on heart of course). Kilkenny are different in their attitude of course. There's always been a healthy rivalry between Kilkenny and Wexford down the years, I remember in my lifetime seeing Wexford beating 'em in '76, '77, '81, '84, '88, '96, '97 and '04 in the championship. Tough competitive games usually, apart from the pastings they dished out in more recent years to Wexford (and of course other teams), but there has rarely been, if ever, a bad stroke or nasty comment. They are the first to congratulate you, and always genuine with their wishes and hopes for the year ahead when you do beat them. For many, many people in Wexford the feeling is mutual - that's based on respect for each other based on a traditional rivalry forged since the 1950s. I genuinely wish Dublin well, the more hurling teams challenging the 'big guns' the better. Maybe some of their 'fans' will acknowledge that there are other teams in Leinster capable of competing consistently for honours. Here's hoping for a great championship in 2017."
It is funny this is the first thread of the year on the main thread about Davy Fitzgerald himself.. Sometimes we as a nation tend to focus in on the negative rather than the positive. Yes, what he did was wrong yesterday and didn't look great... But No one gave Wexford a chance of getting promoted from 1b and they did it beating Limerick and Galway.. and then on top of that they beat Kilkenny in Nowlan Park.. and for the first 55 minutes they put it up to Tipperary despite conceding two very bad goals (One bad defending and one bad refereeing).. Tipp showed their class in the final 15 minutes and showed why they are currently the best in the business and would also show the Wexford boys the level they need to reach... The progress Davy has made with Wexford is remarkable and he is deserves massive credit.. Hurling and in more particular leinster badly needs a strong Wexford... Their support is always loud and comes in number so lets Hope Davy can keep working his magic...

MURPHB33 (Dublin) - 17/04/2017 13:18:46    1980123

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Davy will play any role to gain an advantage in my own opinion. Before Galway's game in this year's league match in Pearse Stadium, Davy was in the middle of the pitch chatting quietly with the umpires and linesmen, from a distance it looked like a harmless relaxed chat but that was another example of Fitzgerald overstepping the boundaries.

baire (Galway) - 17/04/2017 13:35:20    1980126

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