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Looking at the top 3 league divisions this year in football and roughly the same amount of games are won by the away team as the home team, similar happened last year. In hurlings top division this year more games were won by the away team than the home team. This is in contrast to most other sports where having home advantage is statistically a huge factor. I wonder if there is any logical reason for why GAA would be different? When the fixtures come out most teams will target wins in their home games but the statistics say they are as likely to win away from home. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 05/04/2017 11:49:48 1975947 Link 1 |
Interesting. I'd wonder though if the last few years have been a bit of an anomaly maybe? MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13692 - 05/04/2017 12:29:31 1975968 Link 2 |
Maybe teams are experimenting a bit more in home games as they're considered more bankable. Add a bit of complacency to that too. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12103 - 05/04/2017 12:41:25 1975975 Link 1 |
In Division three the top three teams all lost two matches each and all at home. Louth lost in Drogheda to Armagh and Sligo. Tipp lost in Thurles to Sligo and Louth and Armagh lost in the Athletics Ground to Laois and Tipp. Louth usually play better away from home. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 05/04/2017 13:07:56 1975989 Link 0 |
Can't really speak for other counties but I've done a bit of research on Donegal myself because of what felt like a terrible record in Letterkenny that we have. I went back to 2009 because that's as far as Wiki had a breakdown of matches and venues! I only included the standard fixtures, so no semis or finals. So since 2009, Donegal have played 63 matches in the league: JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 05/04/2017 13:45:30 1976000 Link 0 |
In the last 3 years there have been 40 home wins in Division 1 and 35 away wins. In Division 2 there have been 37 home wins and 34 away wins. In the previous 2 seasons of Division 3 there were 36 home wins and 16 away wins but this season it was 14/12. More away wins than home wins in 1A hurling this year does seem to be an anomaly alright looking back.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 05/04/2017 14:02:20 1976003 Link 0 |
Simple answer there is no such thing as home advantage. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/04/2017 14:36:52 1976013 Link 2 |
Seriously disagree with this. If you play enough matches on one patch you become very comfortable on it, you know where the posts are instinctively, you understand how the ball bounces on the pitch, how the wind will operate, that sort of thing. It's not worth 10 points or anything but it does add an extra small advantage and every little bit counts. For example, I don't think we are ready to take on the Dubs in Croke Park necessarily, however we battled away to a draw in Ballybofey this year. Without home advantage, or even if it was in one of our other grounds, I think we may have lost that game. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 05/04/2017 15:15:35 1976033 Link 2 |
Oh seriously you know what the wind will be like haha that's impossible as the wind changes every single day no matter what pitch your on. Donegal got the draw because they got two goals at right time, they also got goals in 2014 in of all places croke park at the right time and got the win, it's all psychological
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/04/2017 15:59:55 1976052 Link 0 |
Only a tiny fraction of football matches are decided on away goals. Before the away goals rule was even introduced home advantage was always a major factor. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12103 - 05/04/2017 16:10:46 1976061 Link 2 |
We beat Kerry in the league in Letterkenny in 2007
gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1049 - 05/04/2017 16:18:27 1976065 Link 0 |
This may come as a suprise to you Hill but the wind often blows in the same direction in the same location. In Donegal you get weather fronts coming in from the west so the wind blows for there and it is often strong. Having that knowedge instinctively having played in the location does help. The more things you can do instinctively in any activity frees up your brain for making other (time-pressured) decisions. Its like learning to drive around your town for the first time versus doing it after 10 years. After a while you don't need to concentrate on timing the clutch and the gear change right so you are able to chat/sing/wave at people while doing it. Obviously not to the same extent but the small things do help in the long run. benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 05/04/2017 16:33:35 1976075 Link 2 |
That comment is ridiculous, home advantage is observable in practically every sport across the world. The largest reason for home advantage gets attributed to referees. It's been shown that marginal decisions tend to go with the home team. In professional sports the size of crowd has a bearing on the extent of home advantage. Maybe explains why it's less observable in GAA. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 05/04/2017 16:40:49 1976077 Link 1 |
There's no such thing as home advantage, nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody's gonna die. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12103 - 05/04/2017 16:59:57 1976082 Link 1 |
Hill, of course home advantage is real. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 05/04/2017 18:02:18 1976107 Link 3 |
So every team sport in the world emphasises and rewards good play with home advantage (see Champions League, American Sports in particular) yet somehow in the GAA* it magically doesn't exist KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 05/04/2017 18:36:28 1976117 Link 0 |
Well please tell me what these so called advantages are physically on the field of play in all ears ????
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/04/2017 18:45:19 1976127 Link 0 |
Oh seriously come on and while your waving to someone across the road driving What happens if somebody knew to the town drives throug and you didn't spot them bump bump bump so the wind is predictable hahahaha I have heard it all What happens if the wind dies down when shooting are you that familiar with its patterns on the HOME PITCH that your freed up microseconds make you able to kick it harder more to the right or a little to the left. seriously it's all in the mind hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/04/2017 18:49:28 1976129 Link 0 |
Again that's hearsay and a mentality issue NEXT PLEASE!!! hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/04/2017 18:50:52 1976130 Link 0 |
Again no physical advantage whatsoever all psychological. staying in your own bed haha please what if you have a bad mattress or the dog next door barks all night for some reason? Your child is up all night crying,Then maybe the five star hotel room bed might actually be more of an advantage to your sleep. Seriously all these are is Excuses, you do realise the reason they warm up before the game right? Once that's done you could have been in the jacks and doing your Barry white all night long like Lionel himself but hey presto the balls thrown in its grass 15v15 and no matter what the colour jerseys are in the crowd they can't do a single physical thing to add to the scoreboard hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/04/2017 18:58:01 1976132 Link 0 |