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It's getting embarrassing at this stage , the refs have too much to do and the black card is not helping. The two black cards today were embarrassing, the stone wall black card was for Bernard's shoulder check but the ref told the Monaghan player to get up as if he was diving. Even if Bernard's was a black card it's too harsh a rule to miss the rest of the game for that. We keep changing rules and imo none of them have made the game any better. I really think it's time to get rid of this silly rule honestly it's helping no one.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - 02/04/2017 18:51:22    1974301

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Thought Dermo deserved his, less so the Monaghan lad. But Dermo was more a red. Also the of the of the ball stuff between Cluxton and McCarron was a red and a black, but only two yellows. I'm a fan of the black card though, it encourages open football and defending without fouling as Monaghan exhibited today. It's the inconsistent application that's the problem.

TheUsername (Dublin) - 02/04/2017 19:09:25    1974318

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "It's getting embarrassing at this stage , the refs have too much to do and the black card is not helping. The two black cards today were embarrassing, the stone wall black card was for Bernard's shoulder check but the ref told the Monaghan player to get up as if he was diving. Even if Bernard's was a black card it's too harsh a rule to miss the rest of the game for that. We keep changing rules and imo none of them have made the game any better. I really think it's time to get rid of this silly rule honestly it's helping no one."
I agree totally.... If you think that was bad you should see o'sheas pull down of Doherty in the Donegal v Mayo game then doherty kicks out at him (shouldnt have done that and had to go ) gets sent off and o'shea gets a yellow!!!!??? All because the ref had serious making up to do to Mayo and thier supporters after what happened against kerry a coupole of yrs ago... Disgrace and needs to be binned...

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - 02/04/2017 19:31:04    1974334

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Thought Dermo deserved his, less so the Monaghan lad. But Dermo was more a red. Also the of the of the ball stuff between Cluxton and McCarron was a red and a black, but only two yellows. I'm a fan of the black card though, it encourages open football and defending without fouling as Monaghan exhibited today. It's the inconsistent application that's the problem."
Dermo's was a red wtf? It wasn't even a booking , I like the idea of it but it's not working the Monaghan one was a shocker never mind Connollys.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - 02/04/2017 19:33:12    1974337

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At the Galway v Kildare game today, Kildare got two black cards and on both occassions they replced both players before the free was taken instead of having to wait till the next stoppage in play. What makes it worse is that one of the Galway players could not continue and the Ref and linesmen would not let the sub in for a number of plays, even though the Kildare player just walked past the official and started playing.

GDL (Galway) - 02/04/2017 19:43:46    1974355

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Thought Dermo deserved his, less so the Monaghan lad. But Dermo was more a red. Also the of the of the ball stuff between Cluxton and McCarron was a red and a black, but only two yellows. I'm a fan of the black card though, it encourages open football and defending without fouling as Monaghan exhibited today. It's the inconsistent application that's the problem."
Was I watching the same ? How the hell was that a black card?

theduke66 (Dublin) - 02/04/2017 20:03:02    1974369

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Dermo's was a red wtf? It wasn't even a booking , I like the idea of it but it's not working the Monaghan one was a shocker never mind Connollys."
Was my first reaction at the game, ill watch it back tonight i thought Dermo rabbit punched him in the midriff right in front of the ref like i said that was my first reaction watching it live, ill have to see it again.

TheUsername (Dublin) - 02/04/2017 20:15:28    1974381

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Dermos a red.... Wat the jaysiz?? It wasnt even a free!! Wat galled me was the umpiring! 4/5 wrong calls!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - 02/04/2017 20:15:53    1974382

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Replying To letterkennyGuy:  "I agree totally.... If you think that was bad you should see o'sheas pull down of Doherty in the Donegal v Mayo game then doherty kicks out at him (shouldnt have done that and had to go ) gets sent off and o'shea gets a yellow!!!!??? All because the ref had serious making up to do to Mayo and thier supporters after what happened against kerry a coupole of yrs ago... Disgrace and needs to be binned..."
The lad Reilly will never pay the debt he owes to us unless he biastly refs us to and all Ireland title!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - 02/04/2017 20:20:23    1974386

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Replying To letterkennyGuy:  "I agree totally.... If you think that was bad you should see o'sheas pull down of Doherty in the Donegal v Mayo game then doherty kicks out at him (shouldnt have done that and had to go ) gets sent off and o'shea gets a yellow!!!!??? All because the ref had serious making up to do to Mayo and thier supporters after what happened against kerry a coupole of yrs ago... Disgrace and needs to be binned..."
I don't think O Shea got a yellow for that incident and if you think the ref today was trying to make up for what happened in Limerick, I think he failed miserably. I know I'm biased but I certainly didn't see us get any favours. I'm sure RTEs extended highlights and in depth analysis tonight will reveal all!

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - 02/04/2017 20:21:05    1974387

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Some very poor umpiring today first off. the first point we got was wide by a clear distance then a couple minutes later rock scores a free and it's given wide, then into same goal in the second half monaghan kick a free wide and he gives a point. felt the monaghan midfielder black was clear as day he tripped Fenton intentionally, it was silly and pointless but clear as day black card for intentional trip. But the inconsistencies of the black card is that dublin were going through for a chance at goal in second half and a trip on the player free awarded and no black card. There were a number of off ball tackles on both sides no black cards. Then Connolly tackles player doesn't hold him with both hands at any stage and gets black card, makes no sense. Another poor peace of officiating in this game was when Fenton was pushed over sideline, mcquillan signalled a free in to Dublin then went down the other end of the field and carded cluxton and monaghan player then came back up field and forgot he had awarded the free for Dublin and instead monaghan took a sideline ball. The old refs are human line will no doubt be thrown out but some of these are happning week in week out it's time to improve officiating standards and not make new rules every time they can't get something right.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - 02/04/2017 21:21:52    1974433

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The black card was introduced to eliminate cynicism in the game. Yet there were two black cards in the Monaghan game today, a game that was probably the least cynical I have seen played in Clones, in my time any way. Two [physical] teams going hard at it for a win in the modern era where strategy has taken over. This is the type of match all supporters crave and [football] incidents like todays are part and partial of a proper football match [/b.] The impact of the black card on Monaghan was severe as we could ill afford to lose a talisman like Hughes, whose direct approach was causing problems, whereas the impact on Dublin could easily be absorbed such is the strength of their squad. It wasn't why we lost but it didn't help

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - 02/04/2017 21:56:09    1974465

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Some very poor umpiring today first off.
the first point we got was wide by a clear distance then a couple minutes later rock scores a free and it's given wide, then into same goal in the second half monaghan kick a free wide and he gives a point.
felt the monaghan midfielder black was clear as day he tripped Fenton intentionally, it was silly and pointless but clear as day black card for intentional trip.
But the inconsistencies of the black card is that dublin were going through for a chance at goal in second half and a trip on the player free awarded and no black card. There were a number of off ball tackles on both sides no black cards. Then Connolly tackles player doesn't hold him with both hands at any stage and gets black card, makes no sense.
Another poor peace of officiating in this game was when Fenton was pushed over sideline, mcquillan signalled a free in to Dublin then went down the other end of the field and carded cluxton and monaghan player then came back up field and forgot he had awarded the free for Dublin and instead monaghan took a sideline ball.
The old refs are human line will no doubt be thrown out but some of these are happning week in week out it's time to improve officiating standards and not make new rules every time they can't get something right."
The dean rock free was wide in my opinion. I seen it a few times on reply and I felt it was wide, just. You were at the game I presume so you didn't see reply and it didn't show it on the highlights tonite.
Connolly is a fantastic player but when it comes to tackling and disciple. Manager sends you on to make an impact and you get carded.
Carey's was the clearest black card of the day.
Hughes' was a joke. Barely any contact and I feel Fenton hit the deck very easily.
Good win from Dublin, looking forward to game vs Kerry next weekend.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - 02/04/2017 22:19:43    1974484

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "The dean rock free was wide in my opinion. I seen it a few times on reply and I felt it was wide, just. You were at the game I presume so you didn't see reply and it didn't show it on the highlights tonite.
Connolly is a fantastic player but when it comes to tackling and disciple. Manager sends you on to make an impact and you get carded.
Carey's was the clearest black card of the day.
Hughes' was a joke. Barely any contact and I feel Fenton hit the deck very easily.
Good win from Dublin, looking forward to game vs Kerry next weekend."
I understand the issues people have with the black card but the Hughes black was as stonewall as you're ever likely to see. It was a deliberate trip. I'm starting to think I might have been watching a different game by the way some people are saying otherwise

Sindar (Roscommon) - 03/04/2017 13:13:12    1974771

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Totally agree sindar If I was Hughes I would be asking though why he gave him one and not the monaghan player who tripped Fenton bursting in on goal who also tripped him intentionally as it's the exact same offence, I think that's what frustrates players more that refs are consistent within a game on awarding them never mind from week to week.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - 03/04/2017 13:50:00    1974802

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Brogan and Hughes committed black card offences. Connollys wasn't even a free. In all three incidents the players went down far too easily but this is irrelevant really.

Breffni39 (Cavan) - 03/04/2017 14:18:15    1974816

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Black card is good, but rules need implementing across the board consistently.

galwayford (Galway) - 03/04/2017 14:26:05    1974823

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Black card is good, but rules need implementing across the board consistently.

galwayford (Galway) - 03/04/2017 14:26:05    1974824

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Thought Dermo deserved his, less so the Monaghan lad. But Dermo was more a red. Also the of the of the ball stuff between Cluxton and McCarron was a red and a black, but only two yellows. I'm a fan of the black card though, it encourages open football and defending without fouling as Monaghan exhibited today. It's the inconsistent application that's the problem."
How did Dermo deserve his if you thought it was a red? If it was a red ( which it certainly wasn't, was barley and yellow if at all) it can't be a black, completely different offences.

Marse (Dublin) - 03/04/2017 15:24:03    1974862

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Replying To Marse:  "How did Dermo deserve his if you thought it was a red? If it was a red ( which it certainly wasn't, was barley and yellow if at all) it can't be a black, completely different offences."
I would like to know too? Baffled!

Jackeen (Dublin) - 03/04/2017 16:36:33    1974903

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