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Stephen o Neill is giving a coaching session tomorrow night at Garvaghy. I think Mickie Harte should send his proposed forwards to this session and maybe they will do better against Kerry. I feel that in Canavan and o Neill Tyrone had two of the best forwards of the noughties and mulligan was great too. Why aren't they in now helping to get Tyrones forwards to kick a ball between the posts. Peter Canavan once said on the last word with Matt Damon on a Friday evening in 2008 that if a forward can't put an O Neill size 5 between the posts then he doesn't deserve to wear the Jersey and that was Tyrone he was talking about. They went out the following day and annihilated Dublin in Croke Park. His message hit hard. I see he must be using the same words to his children as they're only young but already starring in the forwards. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 29/03/2017 19:18:35 1972898 Link 0 |
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You have answered the question already. O'Neill is giving training tonite. Canavan is part of the u21 management team with ex players Dooher and Logan. So they are coaching underage to help I years to come
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 29/03/2017 20:02:09 1972913 Link 0 |
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Agreed!
RonBurgundy. (Tyrone) - Posts: 2 - 01/04/2017 22:42:46 1973966 Link 0 |
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Mark Bradley is a class player and Darren McCurry on his day. Need to look at Lee Brennan to take frees
patnback (Cork) - Posts: 28 - 06/04/2017 11:20:45 1976414 Link 0 |
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1 day in 100 isn't good enough for mc curry. Brennan should def be given the shot now. If he is in the panel put him in! The u21 win a couple of years ago was a surprise win and masked over serious problems in the underage structures. We are now attempting to address these with former players etc heavily involved particularily canavan. This won't bear fruition for a few years yet (if at all) but at least we are trying! redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 06/04/2017 11:50:16 1976429 Link 0 |
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What do folk make of Brolly's comments about a Tyrone player telling him that he absolutely dreaded training. Is that really credible? I don't think it is credible and he is just stirring things up. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 06/04/2017 13:48:51 1976496 Link 0 |
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If a player did happen to tell Joe something in private why is he mouthing off about it? a lot less players/managers will be willing to have a casual chat with Joe if this is where the conversation ends up. I read the article and thought it reeked of bitterness. The dig at Canavan and Sky was schoolboy stuff. His persistent targeting of Cavanagh is tiresome. Joe seems to think he has every tactical system figured out and when his predictions backfire he then acts like he knew all along that this would happen! zero accountability for making wrong predictions time and again. In case it has been forgotten, Tyrone are a newly promoted side and managed a draw with Dublin. Last year they were a kick of a ball from beating Mayo who should have won the AI. They're still a division one side for next year and are current Ulster champions. Just because they lose a couple of league games that will be forgotten by the time the summer comes round, the sensationalist brigade are out in force trying to stir the pot. I would be very surprised if anyone in the Tyrone camp takes Joe seriously enough to speak to him sincerely or get offended by his digs. Another nothing article imo. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 06/04/2017 19:16:17 1976641 Link 0 |
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Maybe some dissatisfied player in the camp wanted to stir the pot. I would be surprised if any manager or his team took any heed of what Joe has to say. In general, I think most players dislike training and would much rather to be playing games.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 06/04/2017 19:41:24 1976653 Link 0 |
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A serious question Fridge, how good a coach is Canavan? I ask because many top class players did not turn out to be good coaches, I know he has picked up experience coaching in Tyrone, Fermanagh and Cavan but would be interested to know your opinion on his impact with the U21 team and do you think he will be a future manager of the senior team,
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 06/04/2017 19:56:23 1976661 Link 0 |
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hmmn its unlikely that a player would choose to stir the pot instead of making his feelings known to his manager. Players aren't obliged to play intercounty football and can leave any time they want if they aren't happy. I agree that training is just something that needs to get done in order to be good enough to play at an elite level and most people view it as a chore before the reward.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 06/04/2017 20:02:37 1976668 Link 0 |
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Joe Brolly, what else can you say. When he isn't in the news for a few weeks he has to say something to make the headlines. Do you ever notice it's always "an unnamed source." He could be pulling it out of his a^*e. It's red top rag journalism. Also every person in Ireland knows not to say anything to Brolly because he will release it, do people think the Tyrone back room team haven't mentioned to the players not to say anything to the media, they will spin it. Also Joe could take a simple comment from a player and spin it to suit his agenda, and we know Joe has plenty of them. I see Joe was saying how great Cooper was, did he not call him a choker? The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 06/04/2017 20:23:40 1976677 Link 0 |
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I feel he will be the next Tyrone manager. Has experience with senior, club and schools. He is ambitious and respected across the board. Good age and if he brings the right people with him could do well. People say he won't take over from M.Harte because if the closeness and friendship. I think Harte will sit him down and convince him it's the right thing to do.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 06/04/2017 20:29:00 1976680 Link 0 |
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I dont think Harte has any intention of stepping down, never mind convincing someone to take the job. Would Logan not be the natural successor however? I honestly dont know much about Logan. Who else has he managed? TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts: 133 - 06/04/2017 21:32:52 1976697 Link 0 |
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I'm with you. Micky should have the job until he decides to step down. I'm not like a couple of keyboard warriors on here and the Tyrone forum calling for mickys head. Can't understand their logic, probably standing on Clones after winning Ulster celebrating and saying how great Micky is. Yes Logan ,Canavan and Dooher seem to be best positioned. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 06/04/2017 22:00:18 1976708 Link 0 |
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Ridiculous comment. Nobody should be above the team or the county but it has got to the stage where micky is. He can't just decide to keep the job as long as he wants. The success of the team and the legacy and history of the county should be out number one priority. We need to stop living in the last decade and we need a new manager to move us on. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 06/04/2017 23:19:17 1976731 Link 0 |
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Be careful what you wish for. Dont just say that we need a new manager, what exactly is your problem with Harte? are you unhappy that were not playing all out attack? In the last two years we have been a kick of the ball away from 2 All-Ireland finals. You cant blame Harte for the lads not stepping up and kicking the ball over the bar in the big moments, in big games. And thats what it boiled down to against Kerry and Mayo. TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts: 133 - 07/04/2017 16:58:41 1976956 Link 0 |
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Completely agree. I've said it many times before. What do we want. Last year many said an Ulster win was the prime target. Beating Donegal in the Ulster final was a massive achievement. Should of beat Mayo who should of beat Dublin in the final. A wee bit of positivity wouldn't go a miss!!!!!
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 07/04/2017 17:58:55 1976968 Link 0 |
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actually think Tyrone have some very nice forwards. woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 07/04/2017 18:27:24 1976974 Link 0 |
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How exactly were we a kick of the ball away from an all Ireland final this past two years?? I've heard this many times and I find it amusing. We were in an quarter final last year and not a semi final and were beat due to a game plan based on pure fear and negativity. The previous year we were beaten by four points by Kerry. We were never a kick of the ball away. And my point is simple. We are a county that bases success on what we achieve at a national level. In the past 10 years we have got to one div 1 league final (beaten) and we have been nowhere near an all Ireland championship final regardless of what you would like to believe. I actually think we have enough quality footballers to compete but we have a management team that refuses to try anything new and shows little to no trust in their players. If you don't learn from your mistakes then you are destined to repeat them and unfortunately our management team are doing just this and supporters like you are happy to let them based on results which they had 10-15 years ago. Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 07/04/2017 22:12:25 1977023 Link 0 |
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Spot on! Great post. I wish more Tyrone supporters could be as honest as this. lambofgod (Mayo) - Posts: 116 - 07/04/2017 23:22:13 1977041 Link 0 |