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Can You See Past Kiltale In The 2019 Championship?

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Replying To Meathman678: "Could still have the beating of Kildalkey though?" Yeah they absolutely could beat Kildalkey! ( don't think they will on a big pitch though) Kildalkey have by far the better spread of players but are very inconsistent , Kildalkey playing well should win by 5+ but if they don't play well longwood could pip them. Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 59 - 18/09/2019 09:51:02 2236978 Link
Replying To Joe_soap1: "You proved my point in the second part "but in fairness" . Longwood are a strong unit with 2/3 v good hurlers mixed in. Look at the likes of trim that have 15 v good hurlers and are only scraping by the likes of na fianna in the last round. Not working great as a unit I think they will have enough to get over kildalkey aswell just need to show up on the day and get into kildalkeys faces from the throw in." I Think Trim are a team in Transition. The heffernans,joyce,douglas,mcgees generation are now into their 30s ans then the majority or the remaining bunch are spring chickens from the last two minor seasons so they have an awful lot of young guys who are still adapting to the speed and physicallity of senior hurling. Very good Individual hurlers but as you said they need a system and to realise they need to work as a unit. Getting out of Group B will stand to them next year. People need to also remember that douglas single handedly got trim to the final last year and was the best hurler in the county, but this year he has had a busted hand so has not been as effective. Kiltale remarkably have only got better this year by adding a few and players coming back like mahady and cruised through the groups. I dont take the final game against rathoth as they always take their foot off in the last game. They will take some beating and i dont see trim doing it. I expect Longwood to beat kildalky by a few points as i think they are on a downward curve now. But in my opinion the final for this years championship is on Sunday as if Trim do squeeze past Kiltale it would be had to see them not beat either of the other two. Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 18/09/2019 10:13:15 2236981 Link
Replying To Joe_soap1: "You proved my point in the second part "but in fairness" . Longwood are a strong unit with 2/3 v good hurlers mixed in. Look at the likes of trim that have 15 v good hurlers and are only scraping by the likes of na fianna in the last round. Not working great as a unit I think they will have enough to get over kildalkey aswell just need to show up on the day and get into kildalkeys faces from the throw in." 2-3 very good hurlers are not going to win a game on their own, let's be honest they have 3-4 that actually cannot hit a ball !! They have played the majority of their games on a tight pitch in Rathmolyn which suits them and while anything can happen in a s.final I just don't see them getting away with a number of passengers on the team on a pitch like navan. Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 59 - 18/09/2019 12:55:20 2237078 Link
Replying To Irish_downunder: "I Think Trim are a team in Transition. The heffernans,joyce,douglas,mcgees generation are now into their 30s ans then the majority or the remaining bunch are spring chickens from the last two minor seasons so they have an awful lot of young guys who are still adapting to the speed and physicallity of senior hurling. Very good Individual hurlers but as you said they need a system and to realise they need to work as a unit. Getting out of Group B will stand to them next year. People need to also remember that douglas single handedly got trim to the final last year and was the best hurler in the county, but this year he has had a busted hand so has not been as effective. Kiltale remarkably have only got better this year by adding a few and players coming back like mahady and cruised through the groups. I dont take the final game against rathoth as they always take their foot off in the last game. They will take some beating and i dont see trim doing it. I expect Longwood to beat kildalky by a few points as i think they are on a downward curve now. But in my opinion the final for this years championship is on Sunday as if Trim do squeeze past Kiltale it would be had to see them not beat either of the other two." Quigley, Birmingham and Farrell the only 3 young lads ? Open to correction on that one Meathman678 (Meath) - Posts: 63 - 18/09/2019 14:58:29 2237164 Link
Replying To Irish_downunder: "I Think Trim are a team in Transition. The heffernans,joyce,douglas,mcgees generation are now into their 30s ans then the majority or the remaining bunch are spring chickens from the last two minor seasons so they have an awful lot of young guys who are still adapting to the speed and physicallity of senior hurling. Very good Individual hurlers but as you said they need a system and to realise they need to work as a unit. Getting out of Group B will stand to them next year. People need to also remember that douglas single handedly got trim to the final last year and was the best hurler in the county, but this year he has had a busted hand so has not been as effective. Kiltale remarkably have only got better this year by adding a few and players coming back like mahady and cruised through the groups. I dont take the final game against rathoth as they always take their foot off in the last game. They will take some beating and i dont see trim doing it. I expect Longwood to beat kildalky by a few points as i think they are on a downward curve now. But in my opinion the final for this years championship is on Sunday as if Trim do squeeze past Kiltale it would be had to see them not beat either of the other two." I take your point that Kildalkey are on a downward curve: lost 1 senior match this year in all competitions, they are in the Division 1 League Final, they are in the Division 3 League Final, Brendan Davis Cup Final, Semi-Final of Senior and Junior Championship. Definitely a downward curve. Stiofan (Meath) - Posts: 65 - 18/09/2019 15:41:54 2237181 Link
Replying To Meathman678: "Quigley, Birmingham and Farrell the only 3 young lads ? Open to correction on that one" they are the three from last years minor team. however the likes of Mikey Cullen Beno Dowling Peter Farrell, Gerry Dwane and Charlie Ennis are all 21 and under meathareclass (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 18/09/2019 15:49:41 2237190 Link
Replying To Meathman678: "Quigley, Birmingham and Farrell the only 3 young lads ? Open to correction on that one" In 'old money' they are minors. Just can't see a team with three minors winning a SHC. Going in right direction, yes, but ready to beat one of the best teams to win a championship, I just don't think so. showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 18/09/2019 19:39:44 2237299 Link
winners of trim v kiltale will be very hard bet in the final. dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 687 - 20/09/2019 22:24:26 2237955 Link
Big pitch not a friend of longwood for the second year in a row. They were very poor yesterday , big guns were quiet. Mayby believed their own hype? Cant play every game in rathmolyon Kildalkey were good but hadnt much to beat Thought ref blew every possible free and played no adv at all. Im sure it annoyed both teams Camogie ref id say ? hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 22/09/2019 11:44:25 2238217 Link
Kildalkey into final with a comprehensive win over longwood... seemed to be a lot of frees tho in that game ... reckon kiltale by 4 against Trim today. Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 79 - 22/09/2019 11:52:32 2238220 Link
i think kildalkey could well beat kiltale on this weekends form. kiltales backs were average enough and the keeper looked jittery. kildalkey should target high balls in around the square and have good finishers to poach goals , kildalkey prob need 3-4 goals to win but on the form the last two days that could hapen. dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 687 - 22/09/2019 19:54:35 2238329 Link
Replying To hurlit: "Big pitch not a friend of longwood for the second year in a row. They were very poor yesterday , big guns were quiet. Mayby believed their own hype? Cant play every game in rathmolyon Kildalkey were good but hadnt much to beat Thought ref blew every possible free and played no adv at all. Im sure it annoyed both teams Camogie ref id say ?" He's from Dublin, not D/Ash as stated. Very sad to see two outside referees doing the county semi-finals, latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 22/09/2019 21:36:11 2238368 Link
Replying To latouche25: "He's from Dublin, not D/Ash as stated. Very sad to see two outside referees doing the county semi-finals," He did first round Kilmessan and Trim and it was the same. Turned it into a free taking exhibition. Kiltale or Kildalkey won't be getting handy frees in Leinster club. I believe that the style of refereeing needs to allow for a bit more physicality. We will benefit in long run. showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 22/09/2019 22:07:53 2238377 Link
Replying To showforit: "He did first round Kilmessan and Trim and it was the same. Turned it into a free taking exhibition. Kiltale or Kildalkey won't be getting handy frees in Leinster club. I believe that the style of refereeing needs to allow for a bit more physicality. We will benefit in long run." Conor no whistle Ferguson is the man for that final. Your right were not allowing physicality. StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 22/09/2019 23:19:20 2238399 Link
Replying To showforit: "He did first round Kilmessan and Trim and it was the same. Turned it into a free taking exhibition. Kiltale or Kildalkey won't be getting handy frees in Leinster club. I believe that the style of refereeing needs to allow for a bit more physicality. We will benefit in long run." Yes he did the same in the second round. My issue is that there are referees in Meath not getting matches yet we are bringing in these lads from outside the county. They come with no umpires and start games with no umpires or lines men. I have witnessed this on several occasions this year. Several referees have walked away because of this. We won't have any hurling referees left if this continues. latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 520 - 23/09/2019 08:06:22 2238421 Link
Would like to find out what our local refs think about this. Do they not want games or why are these lads brought in? Interesting to see who gets the final hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 23/09/2019 10:00:03 2238436 Link
Replying To showforit: "He did first round Kilmessan and Trim and it was the same. Turned it into a free taking exhibition. Kiltale or Kildalkey won't be getting handy frees in Leinster club. I believe that the style of refereeing needs to allow for a bit more physicality. We will benefit in long run." Well there definitely won't be any physicality if Ritchie Morris or Fergus Smith get the game both of them are very whistle happy .. Also don't think they should be allowed to ref the final as both off their own home clubs are practically neighbours with kiltale Sliotar84 (Dublin) - Posts: 12 - 23/09/2019 12:50:17 2238492 Link
Replying To showforit: "He did first round Kilmessan and Trim and it was the same. Turned it into a free taking exhibition. Kiltale or Kildalkey won't be getting handy frees in Leinster club. I believe that the style of refereeing needs to allow for a bit more physicality. We will benefit in long run." Well there definitely won't be any physicality if Ritchie Morris or Fergus Smith get the game both of them are very whistle happy .. Also don't think they should be allowed to ref the final as both off their own home clubs are practically neighbours with kiltale Sliotar84 (Dublin) - Posts: 12 - 23/09/2019 12:50:28 2238493 Link
What a game yesterday. Some outstanding performances given the conditions. Kiltale just always seemed to be doing enough, but Trim did finish with a strong final 10 like they did against Ratoath. Kiltale will be very hard beaten now, cannot see Kildalkey laying a finger on them. O Sullivan was superb, and surely is a shoe in for Meath next year if he goes in. Ronan Ryan was calm and composed for a man that has not been hurling. As for Trim, positives for them are that they were in the game until the end, and they are in group A. A good team mixed with youth and experience. Just not their time just yet. Meathman678 (Meath) - Posts: 63 - 23/09/2019 16:09:08 2238585 Link
Replying To Meathman678: "What a game yesterday. Some outstanding performances given the conditions. Kiltale just always seemed to be doing enough, but Trim did finish with a strong final 10 like they did against Ratoath. Kiltale will be very hard beaten now, cannot see Kildalkey laying a finger on them. O Sullivan was superb, and surely is a shoe in for Meath next year if he goes in. Ronan Ryan was calm and composed for a man that has not been hurling. As for Trim, positives for them are that they were in the game until the end, and they are in group A. A good team mixed with youth and experience. Just not their time just yet." If kildalkey played like they did against longwood they will be in with a chance.But will need 2 or 3 goals to win mrmagican (Meath) - Posts: 8 - 23/09/2019 21:37:36 2238644 Link