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National Hurling League 2022 - 7 Like(s)
Replying To tommy k: "A long way off the top 3 and absolutely nowhere in football. I grew up in the 80's and 90's and we had our hurlers in the 80's and footballers in the 90's to entertain us winning AI's etc. in both county and club. I would hate to have been a Limerick fan with nothing to look forward to but continuous failure in both codes e.g. the 5 minute AI in 1994 when the might of Offaly came back from 5 points down to win by 6 - the best example of "calving" in the history of the GAA! Absolutely shocking that Limerick with a very big population have never even won 1 Club AI in either code." Well in '94 Kilkenny the then All Ireland Championships, were eight points up on that Offaly team, in the first half, and in ten minutes Offaly were up about eight on them. The Cats had about 40 minutes to recover and Offaly beat them anyway, as they did Galway, narrowly beaten finalists the year before and they also beat a fine Wexford team, so they richly deserved their All Ireland victory. I am just a little baffled that with half the hurling population of the Tribesmen and as you so readily so little success at underage and club level we have twice the number of All Irelands they have. Despite the fact that Galway won the 1980. All Ireland hurling did not start that year.
By the way we do have two All Irelands in Football and were the first team to beat Dublin in an All Ireland football Final. And we had reasonably good football teams from time In the the forties, sixties, nineties, oughties and even at the start of the last decade we gave the Kerry Aristocrats plenty of it- we are not like KK' who give no support whatsoever to Football.
Of course we are well off the big three in hurling. Cork have five times our hurling population and Kilkenny play absolutely no other game. Tipp is a truly mighty hurling county of course.
Limerick clubs have won All titles in both codes in at All Ireland Club level with NIHE winning the Football back in '78 and Na Piarsaigh the hurling in '16. No harm to check facts every now and again.
Anyway what does club titles matter if All Irelands at Senior Level are scant in the ground.
Well may you mention Offaly. Our Two counties have a stunning record in Finals against the tiny Midland County- a 100% failure.
I have never seen an East Galway man, and I know a good few of them, that would prefer to see Galway win Football titles before hurling ones. And yes Galway do perform well in football and I for one would never belittle their achievements by saying 'Ah Shure they are well off the big two'. You have to take into account that special circumstances make it easier for at least four of the' big five' to win All Irelands and even more significantly always has.
Oldtourman (National) - 14/02/2022 16:07:14
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Where Are The 'New Irish' Hurlers? - 7 Like(s)
Replying To DL_Man: "Just want to return to this absolute blast of a comment.
We have enough without the Irish language? The Irish language is the core component of our identity - our placenames, surnames, etc all come from it. Language is the cornerstone of national identity and it must be protected.
Hiberno Irish - this isn't a thing, I assume you mean Hiberno English, which is barely a dialect and is mostly based from Gaeilge syntax anyway.
Ulster GAA don't name clubs. If you have an issue with Kevin Lynch's, then surely you can't be too happy with Austin Stacks or Seán Treacy's? Sure didn't Treacy and Dan Breen kill innocent policemen without orders before the war had started?
You raise valid points about dropping symbolism to encourage people of different viewpoints to feel included, but please spare us the disregard for our own culture, the patronising nonsense about GAA clubs in Ulster, etc." You are dead right. What is wrong with bilingualism, many European countries are bilingual. In a new global world more and more Irish people are emigrating to countries where English is not the first language of the local people. It is an established fact that those who can speak two languages regularly are able to pick up other languages easier.
As far as this Hiberno English/Irish thing goes, it is a load of nonsense. We speak English like every other English place place that has a dialect of its own. What is it anyway, only badly spoken English. If you are speaking English, at least pay it the compliment of speaking it properly. Some people seem to think that because they throw in a few begobs and begorras laced with with an occasional 'get up the yard and the smell hay' that they speaking in some thing uniquely Irish fashion and thus of great cultural significance. I could disagree more.
Oldtourman (National) - 31/08/2021 09:29:40
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2022 All-Ireland Hurling Championship thread - 6 Like(s)
Replying To katser: "Excellent refereeing by L. Gordon today in Munster....he isn't letting limrik get away with any sly digs!!" Ah will you go away with your usual 'auld' nonsense. Cork had two men sent off against Clare last year and two men also lined last Sunday and you have not a word to say about their lack of discipline. Your obsessed with Limerick. You have never got over '18. All day long Gullane was been pulled and dragged all over the place and no free being given. A Limerick man, living in Galway, was sitting beside me, at the game, and before the start he was praising Liam Gordon as a referee to the High Heavens. However before the game was over he felt that he had a very poor game by his normal high standards. He was just as baffled as the rest of us at some of his decisions. I agree with the contributor below who says that Lyons of Waterford is a far better ref, at least on todays performance.
Oldtourman (National) - 08/05/2022 20:02:07
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How Many More All Irelands For This Limerick Team? - 6 Like(s)
Replying To galwayford: "Limerick is not a natural hurling county. For a long time the GAA has played second or third fiddle in the city and county. I hope that Cork, Galway, and Tipp will catch them. Well done to Limerick. A good coaching team has made "average hurlers" into winners." All Irelands won in three different centuries and eight different decades. God if we were 'a natural hurling county' we would have done the devil and all. I know Galway will be benfitting from the current fine minor teams shortly. I can only wish these young lads all the Best and a very happy Christmas to you and yours
Oldtourman (National) - 13/12/2020 18:46:59
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Hurling All-Stars - 6 Like(s)
Replying To wexico15: "I think Limerick will get about 9 or 10, rightly or wrongly I think any 50/50 calls involving Limerick will go against Limerick. Perfect example goalkeeper where Quaid or Murphy would both be a worthy winner for me but I reckon Murphy will get it. I think alot of the time even optics can play a part which sort of undermines the whole thing." For me the whole has been undermined long ago. When they failed to give John Galvin an All Star in'10 that finished me with the whole charade- he was the best midfielder in Ireland that year by a country mile and when the players picked their team they recognised that. and I could not care less if our lads never got an All Star- all that matters is winning All Irelands or at least provincial titles. Anyway, anything over five awards for any one team is a joke. At least the Railways Cups long ago tried to give recognition to stalwart players from small counties, but The All Stars Selection Committee go out of their way to ignore them
Oldtourman (National) - 07/12/2021 12:54:52
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Clare Hurling thread - 5 Like(s)
Replying To F4: "Like when S. Flanagan grabbed him in a headlock? If Kilkenny man done that would be 2 match ban." Considering Eddie Brennan did not get a two match ban in 2007 I doubt it.
Oldtourman (National) - 25/06/2022 20:46:41
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Official Limerick Senior Hurling 2019 - 5 Like(s)
Replying To ImokillyMan: "Couldn't be picky about yesterday, its a national title and I thought our lads were excellent. No performance is ever perfect and we did hit some soft wides and conceded some poor frees but from what i see, so do most other teams. We can't forget that this is the first time since 1937 that we hold both national titles, plus I'm watching a brand of hurling that I've not seen from a Limerick senior team in my lifetime. We should cherish these days. In terms of the upcoming championship, we are the target and rightly so but the one thing I feel is that whatever happens, our workrate will make us damn hard to beat. Would be wary of Cork as they are too quiet and of all the teams last year, they had us on toast only for us to drag ourselves out of the hole. They won't be far off either I think. Congratulations to whole squad - didn't see full panel from yesterday but does every fella who played a league game get a medal or just yesterdays panel??" Absolutely agree with above sentiments. I have followed Limerick since the late fifties and it is a privilege to be alive and a Limerick supporter at this time. Congratulations to all concerned.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - 01/04/2019 10:36:22
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2021 Hurling Championship - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Rockies: "Hegarty hasn't been marked close enough by most teams! Cadogan snuffed out his threat in the recent Cork Limerick game. Hegarty is a big, awkward hurler with good speed who can be marked. Presence of Damien Cahalane in half forward line would also curtail Kyle Hayes... another big physical player. Am expecting Cork and Limerick for all Ireland... but anything can happen!" Curtail Kyle Hayes. Are you serious Kyle Hayes is eight years younger than Cahalane, a man who was hopelessly beaten for speed, in the Full Back Line, against both Waterford and Limerick in '17 and '18. I do not believe Kingston will even dream of putting him in the HF Line.
Oldtourman (National) - 06/08/2021 15:37:59
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Limerick against Waterford. All Ireland Hurling Final 2020 - 4 Like(s)
Replying To katser: "Just hope the Waterford lads watch their "Backs"
Only one winner here, Waterford all the way." There there now. Maybe you should look forward in hope, not back in anger. If we cannot beat Waterford that is fine. We will take our beating with dignity and wish that fine Deise team well. It is great to see two Munster teams in the Final. If Waterford win, and good luck to them if they do, they will be the fifth county from this Province to win the All Ireland in sixteen years and the cup will repose in the Munster Plains - well it will anyway- for the 74th time. LET US MAKE MUNSTER GREAT AGAIN. But really what is the point- it has always been great.
Oldtourman (National) - 30/11/2020 18:46:05
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2022 All-Ireland Hurling Championship thread - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Galway9801: "Just name the analyst ffs," The man who said a prominent Limerick player 'had it coming to him'. Are you living in a remote cave, FFS
Oldtourman (National) - 12/06/2022 21:25:20
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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Trump2020: "Just starting a thread on the possible havoc that the Corona Virus could have on GAA matches from both scheduling and attendance standpoints. As scheduling is already very tight due to things like weather and club vs county matches, a major pandemic could be ruinous to the 2020 GAA season and beyond. Thoughts?" Just like our luck Trump, when Limerick and Galway have good hurling and football teams respectively. On a more serious note if it comes down to it, like in 1941, games will have to be put off, if public health is at risk.
Oldtourman (National) - 27/02/2020 20:20:03
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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches - 4 Like(s)
Replying To FoolsGold: "Paddy Tally got a 8 week ban a few weeks ago for having Down meeting up when not suppose too. Cork were at it too.
That sort of thing didn't help matters when they were deciding who was elite or not,
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Some might look down at the LOI but they are all either professional or Semi pro," I'll say this much lads. I am over seventy years of age. I live a long way from my own county. I am an avid GAA and have seldom missed a championship or league for past fifty five years odd. There are several more like me through the country. I have followed all the rules since, staying at home to watch games, often on my own. I feel watching the games in the championship was something that really helped us to remain in fairly good spirits. I am very glad we had the games we had and hopefully things will be back, at least behind closed doors soon. Those who broke the rules and went to pubs to see games and the publicans that served them should hang their heads in shame.
Oldtourman (National) - 12/02/2021 22:03:31
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Wexford Hurling thread 2024 - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "If Offaly get themselves back up to the top level, and ourselves and Dublin can get our act together, maybe call their bluff and tell them to get on their horse and head back out into the West if that's going to be their attitude." Well, they were in Munster for Eleven Years, at all levels, from day one, and they high tailed it back to the West when it suited them also.
Oldtourman (National) - 27/01/2024 22:10:09
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Galway Hurling thread - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "Less said about 21 the better Katser" 'Should have won'-nonsense. I have heard this old line from different losing sides several times over my seventy+ years. It is all a load of codology. Teams lose, as Limerick did for Forty four Years, because they are not good enough.
Oldtourman (National) - 01/02/2023 09:26:43
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Kerry have it easy. - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Cavan_Slasher: "There is no question that they were the best.
The question was on how easy their route is and was.
Less games - less chance of slip-up - and easier opposition." Up to the mid fifties Cavan had as many provincial titles as Kerry, yet they had about a quarter of Kerrys All Irelands. Up to then no other Ulster county had won, or ever seriously looked like winning, an All Ireland. By then four different counties had won the major prize in Munster so you could say for at least half the life of the GAA, Kerry had a more difficult route to an All Ireland that any Ulster county.
Oldtourman (National) - 03/08/2017 00:04:28
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National Hurling League 2022 - 4 Like(s)
Replying To tommy k: "Galway are not going to calve anytime soon lol. Again you are one of those annoying Limerick fans that think 2018 was the year that hurling was invented but were very quiet for 45 years before that (and the odd 40 years before that) - a lot of "calving" there don't you think?" Yerra come on Tommy Limerick have won All Irealnds in 8 different decades, and three different centuries. The county has produced three different teams that won more than won All Ireland, while Galway, with at least twice our population, have only had one really great side- that fine eighties team. Every one of what I would call the chasing pack have had their famines. We had one All Ireland in 78 seasons, but ye had one in 93 years. We sure as hell did not start hurling in 2018. And yes we will be down again- so what even Cork and Tipp had famines of their own. The 'most annoying' in what I said here is that it is the facts.
Oldtourman (National) - 13/02/2022 21:58:02
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The Musings Of Tom Smith - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "This is very good Admin!
Does Tom not realise plenty of religious fellas have had a great influence on the GAA since it was founded? Administrators, coaches and players? And plenty of games have been decided by pure luck, no doubt attributable to whatever God or gods you believe in?!" Any way, Preachers have been upset by different things. In St Pauls in London there is a huge steel memorial depicting Nelson on a horse hanging from the ceiling. For some reason both the Horse and Nelson are facing away from the Altar. One day, as the Rector was trying to explain somewhat complex Theological Concept, he looked Heaven wards for inspiration. He was not best pleased with the sight that met his gaze. Expounding aloud in utter desperation, he proclaimed ' How can one preach a cogent sermon, while looking at a Horses Arse'
Oldtourman (National) - 28/12/2023 16:09:00
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Is This The Golden Age Of Hurling? - 3 Like(s)
Replying To ballydalane: "Ciaran Carey never won an All Ireland, possibly best player never to win one?" Yes. There was a famous picture of his sister consoling him in Croke Park after the loss to Wexford in'96 and of the same lady 22 years later, having got through security to embrace her son Cian Lynch in glorious victory. A two point loss in one case, a point win in another- but what a difference.
Oldtourman (National) - 08/08/2019 22:20:15
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Will Rugby World Cup Harm Gaa. - 3 Like(s)
Replying To KillingFields: "please if you are going to criticise rugby then at least dont show yourself up as a fool" How is a fool. After SA, NZ, Australia, England Ireland and France are there that many serious contenders?
Oldtourman (National) - 03/11/2023 08:50:01
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Limerick Senior Hurling 2018. - 3 Like(s)
Replying To PatOLogical: "Bren, I think the dogs on the street knew you meant Dan and I agree he has literally come on in leaps and bounds under Kiely and is well worthy of inclusion.
Am also fully on board with Kiely having Hickey at full back thus far this year. Several He i in a tough spot as he also has several options now "barking at his heels" for #3, including Muke Casey Darragh Fanning, Richie English, Tom Condon, Diarmuid Byrnes, and even Dan Morrissey- had a rough baptism of fire last year against Tipp but wouldn't be surprised if Kiely moulds him into a 3 at a future date- He has the the stature if he can learn the trade. I may have missed a few more options. In the meantime I like Hickey's athleticism and ability as a man marker against a Callanan or a Forde.
Come on Ye Boys In Green, Come what may..." So you reckon Ritchie McCarthy is not even among the first six full backs in the county.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - 15/05/2018 14:52:51
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