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doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 06/02/2015 10:20:34    1690623

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Best of luck to terry and the lads this evening your a great bunch of lads Cabhan abu

asitis (Cavan) - Posts: 233 - 07/02/2015 13:51:53    1690905

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Does it concern anyone that we seem to stick to the same line-up for most games? Surely if we have designs on an Ulster challenge we should be trying out more players in the MaKenna cup and league like the more successful teams do? At this stage we know enough about the likes off R Dunne, Gilsnan, clarke G mac, m dunne, m reilly etc.. Should we not give other lads a try out to see if they are up to the standard and to maybe raise them to the standard or is it a matter of the small county where the MaKenna cup and league survival are the be all and end all.
I'm not saying these competitions aren't important or trying to slag anyone off, just think it's pointless playing the like's of R Dunne at full back in every game when someone else could be blooded in case the more experienced players get an injury and we are left stuck for players in certain positions. I realise there are players injured and off with colleges but surely there's a case for playing B Reilly, Enda Reilly, C Moynagh, etc from the start to get a proper look at them. Too many players like K Tierney have passed by, getting only the odd minute here and there

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1368 - 07/02/2015 19:50:49    1690970

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great result for cavan, and the other div 2 results tonight were

Down 1-11 Roscommon 1-15
Meath 0-13 Kildare 0-11

with 3pts from 2 games if cavan can win next couple of games they would be safe from relegation and could look to mount a promotion challenge

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 07/02/2015 20:57:19    1691002

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Great win 3 from 4 but now the hard work begins where do we pick up more points from the only bonus from the two matches was the one we picked up agains Roscommon for I fancied us to beat laois the only other team I feel that will give us anything is Westmeath so should we beat them that will be five points where else do we get the 6th point. As for the same team starting what you see is what you are going to get from at least twelve Mark McKeever will be dropped to the subs bench so there will not be a lot of changes. I expect Martin Dunne will be on the subs bench also, Anyway a win is a win and we have to take what we can to make sure we stay in division 2. One worry is Rory Dunne deserting his position when we play stronger teams they will use his absence. Kildare loosing tonight makes our task harder for they are now fighting for division two survival.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 07/02/2015 21:14:17    1691016

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no reason why we can not beat any team in this division, meath beat kildare, down lost at home to rosscommon, if we play well why should we fear any of them.

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 07/02/2015 21:20:45    1691019

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What will the anti-hyland brigade whinge about this week?

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 584 - 08/02/2015 08:10:15    1691045

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I didn't manage to get to the game but listened on the radio. Anybody at it that can give us a good report?

From what I heard, we bossed it at midfield, especially in the second half. I think putting Killian Clarke out there with Gearoid is really paying dividends. We are controlling midfield and having that stability in the middle is allowing our wing backs, and in some cases full back line, the opportunity to move forward, support the attack and get on the sccorebord. 8 different players scored for Cavan yesterday. A lot of talk about not having a marquette forward but if we have contributions by that many then there is no need to rely on one or two!

I think this result puts down a marker and with home games to come I think that we are in a very good place. Was delighted to see James McEnroe ba ck in and he put down a marker of his own with what sounded like two great scores. With Mackey to come back in, we are in a very good place at the moment!

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 08/02/2015 08:22:03    1691046

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Usual negative stuff on here. Mowbar, you do realise that Galway stayed up last year with 5 points and we now have three? We also have 3 home games left plus Westmeath and Meath paway, both of whom we have beaten in the last two years. Why you think we may not get points is a mystery to me. We recently beat Down in the McKenna Cup and play them at home next.
We're the top performers in the Division so far. 3 points from two away games is fantastic, including a draw away against a team favourite for promotion. I sincerely hope the players don't read the comments here because the majority of the county, the 98% that don't post here, are delighted with their performances.
The post before mowbar's is about players not getting a chance. Last year we used over 40 in the league! It really is comical stuff.

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 364 - 08/02/2015 09:22:17    1691053

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Not a bad little haul last night, 17 scores, away from home. five games left, 3 at home and 2 away. The graph is upwards and the difference in standard between the teams in division 2 and division 3 is not that marked. Lets take it a game at a time and hopefully management will have a settled side by rounds 5, 6 and 7.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 554 - 08/02/2015 10:02:18    1691060

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Great victory last night but Laois were as I expected hopeless...we are moveing the ball foreward more quickly and have cut down the number of hand-passes which is good... My idea to have Lyng replaced worked a treat...

Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 08/02/2015 10:06:49    1691063

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BreffniGuide
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I am not being negative at all BreffniGuide to be honest I am delighted the way things are going 3 from 4 is fantastic. I am asking the question where we will pick up more points and you accuse me of being negative. I am hoping it continues as it's going but I honestly am worried about where we will pick up the points required to make sure we are safe first the rest can follow once safe. Kildare will not want to drop any points against us and Down plus Meath the same. Westmeath are not doing bad so another hard match. The easy ones are now over so I am asking the question as a genuine question not as a negative one far from it.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 08/02/2015 10:44:02    1691073

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Great win, and some very football played too. Good to see McEnroe back, under rated player. There is a 3 week break now, until Round3 which should hopefully have Cian Mackey back to fitness then.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 1871 - 08/02/2015 10:45:28    1691074

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The idea that we will struggle from now on. 1 is just plain stupid. 2 the opinions of someone who doesnt attend relying on the local club crank with a chip on their shoulder and wont hear of any talk about cavan improvement. I challenge you mowbar to explain using knowledge of players available, recent results against this cavan team and tactical superiority to educate us idiots on why they wont pick up points against westmeath whom they beat last year, meath who they hammered in navan two years ago, down who they beat in mckenna cup and who suffered relegation last year or kildare who have already lost two. Why should we fear galway. Enlighten us mowbar.

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 542 - 08/02/2015 10:54:44    1691078

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That result will be a devastating blow to Laois and indeed to many of our contributors on hogan stand forum, who are very quiet unless there is a whinge to be had.deanmartin is likely inconsolable this morning! I thought it was a good performance and even more pleasing is that there was plenty we can improve on. Well done lads.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1250 - 08/02/2015 12:22:56    1691096

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wishfulthinkin
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1690970 Does it concern anyone that we seem to stick to the same line-up for most games? Surely if we have designs on an Ulster challenge we should be trying out more players in the MaKenna cup and league like the more successful teams do? At this stage we know enough about the likes off R Dunne, Gilsnan, clarke G mac, m dunne, m reilly etc.. Should we not give other lads a try out to see if they are up to the standard and to maybe raise them to the standard or is it a matter of the small county where the MaKenna cup and league survival are the be all and end all.
I'm not saying these competitions aren't important or trying to slag anyone off, just think it's pointless playing the like's of R Dunne at full back in every game when someone else could be blooded in case the more experienced players get an injury and we are left stuck for players in certain positions. I realise there are players injured and off with colleges but surely there's a case for playing B Reilly, Enda Reilly, C Moynagh, etc from the start to get a proper look at them. Too many players like K Tierney have passed by, getting only the odd minute here and there

Tierney started 4 games in the League last year. You need to have a settled team instead of chopping and changing as has been the case in previous years. A big number of players were tried in the League last year,it's not like they aren't getting chances.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 1871 - 08/02/2015 12:25:55    1691097

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Lads discuss the game. No need for sniping or agendas. Positive performance but full forward line is not functioning and still scored 17 points. Mc Veety and Gunner class. Also Paul Smith deserves credit on his league debut.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 08/02/2015 12:28:23    1691098

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Congratulations to the team and management on another great display . Really positive start to the league campaign . Can't wait for the Down game now ! There is still plenty to work on but when you have players coming off the bench and throwing down the gauntlet it speaks volumes for the health of your squad . Competition for a starting jersey against Monaghan is hotting up nicely :)

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 08/02/2015 13:22:36    1691117

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Just something I noticed last night. About ten minutes to go, terrace side of pitch and one of the bigger Laois players in possession on the attack. Gunner hits him hard (legitimate tackle) didnt get the ball, hit him twice as hard (again legitimate tackle) still failed to dispossess, hit him twice as hard and every bit as fair again, gets the ball and clears it down the field. For me it showed such an impressive bit of heart by the player involved and this was reflected throughout the game right around the field McEnroe, McVittey, Clarke, DJ et al The appetite is most definitely there.

Not going to lose the run of ourselves but credit where its due and we can look to the next game with a fair degree of hope if not outright confidence, An Cabhan Abu.

ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts: 286 - 08/02/2015 14:46:55    1691146

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We are definitely going in the right direction and look more hopeful .Good victory last night nice to pick up two points away from home. Have to agree with Sean 66 Laois were very poor , didn't tackle and gave away possession very cheaply. Yes we had a lot of players got up and took a pop but against stronger opposition that won't happen. We played some lovely football, especially Clarke and Mc Vitty but Defensively we were shaky and conceded two goals that could have sunk us. James Mc Enroe was excellent and Barry Reilly too, was surprised neither of them or Hayes didn't start, both Reilly and Hayes were very good when they came on against Roscommon. Mc Enroe would make a great sweeper, fast strong and very smart on the ball. Wing half backs left us very exposed and caused problems for Dunne and Mc Loughlin leaving them very exposed . Fergal Flanagan was excellent at number 6 thought Killian Brady did well. Up front we are just not gettin the best out of Dunne and Mc Dermott. If we are to develop a panel with strength and depth we need to see Barry Reilly, Enda Reilly, Niall Murray , Conor Moynagh, Corr, Tinnelly , Galligan, etc get more game time as well as under 21s Argue and Hayes. (Saw Argue for UUJ so assume he is no longer injured). Kerry Mayo, Tyrone , Dublin etc use the league to create a panel with players able to slot into different positions easily that's what gives them strength and depth for championship, we are not doing that. We are too predictable and too many players too comfortable in the same position ( Brady Mc Loughlin, Dunne and Hayes in FB Line Flannagan as sweeper with no responsibility to mark anyone , DJ Reilly in half back line Dunne and Mc Dermott in FF line, all these players need to be shifted about a bit and fight a bit harder for their places while some players are gettn very little game time and therefore not improvin. Try Martin Dunne on 40, Killian Clarke or Mc Dermott at 14 at FF, Mc Enroe at Centre field or FB, Mc Loughlin and Hayes at wing half or sweeper, DJ or R. Flannagan at corner back with real responsibility to mark a player, Galligan at Midfield or FF, Cavan needs to develop that level of competition for places in the panel, where every position is up for grabs. The "pro Hyland " at all costs brigade will see this as whinging so to answer them in advance. IMO Cavan under Hyland has progressed and the question now is posed is he the manager to take us to the next level. He has the players, he has shown himself to be open to change, movin away from an ultra defencive style to a balanced attack style. He needs to develop all the players in the panel to be of the same high standard so that means 2 players equally able to play any position 1-15. That would create real honest competition for places and improve the standard of all the players . Clarke, Mc Kiernan, Martin Reilly, Mc Loughlin, Dunne x2 are all very good but they could be an awful lot better if they weren't so comfortable, and there's others in there just look like they are along for the ride. So, much done more to do. If Hyland adopts the approach of Joe Schmit and develops all the players in his panel to an equally high standard and that all players can expect that honest effort will be rewarded, rather than promoting the development of a select few, well then yes he is in a position to be the best manager Cavan has ever seen. He has the players he can do it. Question is will he?

shannon414 (Cavan) - Posts: 224 - 08/02/2015 16:19:00    1691204

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