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I have been following and playing football in Cavan for many years, seen alot of very young good players come and go very good players. Over the past few years I have been involved in the training of teams at all levels. mick211 (Cavan) - Posts: 8 - 27/11/2014 08:37:35 1675124 Link 0 |
Mick we talk about this every year and nothing is done about it. mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 27/11/2014 18:46:11 1675248 Link 0 |
Mowbar thanks for the feed back...I to have been saying this for some time while watching it carry on....in the next few weeks I will be putting the welfare of your young players to the county board and asking for a reply. This is the only place that it will be changed a lot will be told by the response I get for them.. if anyone from the county board would like to leave a reply here I would love to here from them.. mick211 (Cavan) - Posts: 8 - 27/11/2014 19:43:20 1675255 Link 0 |
For the last 40 years lads have been playing almost 3 games a week and it didn't do them 1 bit of harm . It's the training methods that have changed . Too much time spent in the gym not enough time spent enjoying the skills of the game on the practice field. I remember playing Minor junior b colleges and maybe a sub on the senior team for a tournament game on a Sunday night. It's the training that's changed .. Lads pushing themselves to extremes in gyms are what brings on the injuries. The skills of the game are getting left behind and been replaced by strength and conditioning. Madness really. U12 u13 u14 it's competition the main thing when practicing the skills and enjoying it should be the number 1 priority. Lads should be down the field practicing frees and kicking with both feet not pumping iron in a gym dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 27/11/2014 20:55:37 1675265 Link 0 |
to be fair though. under 16 players are not allowed to play under 21. (you are not allowed to play 2 grades higher than you are eligible for.) teams have been thrown out for breaking this rule. (and yet some people think that this rule should not apply). also under 16s should not be playing Junior grade. I actually think it's the minor players who get the worst deal. they could be playing club,county,school and also club under-21,junior and or senior.. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 27/11/2014 21:02:45 1675267 Link 0 |
Your right about the under 16's sorry. Still my point remains young people are doing far to much. I don't think that the training in itself is wrong im part of that system myself and have seen some great sessions. But everyone is entitled to have their say that the great thing about the GAA. Maybe your right and Im wrong. I think an easy way to put what im saying is if you had a RACE HORSE and you know 4 great trainers would you give the horse to the 4 of them at the same time and let them do what they want with it with out talking to each other. If the answer is NO then the question is why. As for young players getting back to the basics your right ball work is very important. mick211 (Cavan) - Posts: 8 - 28/11/2014 11:51:48 1675311 Link 0 |
young lads are getting too much training at the minute. They train with their club and if they are good enough, their county. Take a talented 16 yr old. He plays club u16 and minor. County u16, school junior and senior. He is expected to attend all trainings for all teams and play out of his skin for all of them. These young lads do not get a chance to recover from knocks, training and games. One of the most important aspects of physical exercise is recovery. If the body cannot recover then it becomes weary. Not just physically but mentally. StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 28/11/2014 13:45:36 1675337 Link 0 |
There is also a trend in Cavan where any decent young player has to be brought into the Senior Panel as soon as he out of Minor, and then when he 25 or 26 he is tired or burned out. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2752 - 28/11/2014 14:35:10 1675345 Link 0 |
Mackey a good point. The year out actually improved him as a footballer. Hopefully Givney Tierney Killian Clarke will benefit from it. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 28/11/2014 15:08:18 1675353 Link 0 |
Is Killian Clarke back for the full year? dirtybag (Cavan) - Posts: 242 - 28/11/2014 19:07:03 1675399 Link 0 |
The people who should be reading these posts and other important articles on this subject either ignore all that's being said here or are more concerned with administration than players. That's the way it is in most counties. When the Wexford Co Board tried to intervene there was a flood of criticism from various counties. As far as a lot of people are concerned, especially the ones that never kicked a ball, players are just gladiators that are there to entertain us. If they get injured etc. well just go and replace them with others. If they have issues about unemployment etc well that's just too bad. As for taking a break well just look at the reaction to Killian Clarke opting out last year! RoyalBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 198 - 29/11/2014 10:15:21 1675440 Link 0 |
can you sue the GAA for over-training you? Its not compulsory to train or play so how can the GAA be blamed if someone takes it upon themselves to train too much and too hard? wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1668 - 30/11/2014 21:44:21 1675689 Link 0 |
Fair point wishfulthinkin; RoyalBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 198 - 01/12/2014 13:59:18 1675757 Link 0 |
Wishfulthinking......your missing my point young players are being ran into the ground...and as someone that has played for many years like yourself I hope...if a player goes to a manger and says I'm not training this week what do you think he would be told..they need to be looked after.. mick211 (Cavan) - Posts: 8 - 01/12/2014 20:56:27 1675861 Link 0 |
That's where the Stephen Hunt ideals come into it...you have to be mentally strong to say no! wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1668 - 01/12/2014 21:50:43 1675880 Link 0 |
It's not just young players. Senior players too. League final still not played. U21 semis to be played. It's nearly xmas and when it's done their playing again and training for next year. Some teams had to play 3 games in a week this year in champ. Disgrace. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 01/12/2014 21:58:56 1675883 Link 0 |
Definitely applies to senior players as much as anyone else; and parents are far from blameless in my experience with under-age teams. Some want their children in every competition that there is and get very touchy if they are challenged about this. RoyalBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 198 - 02/12/2014 11:26:18 1675921 Link 0 |
Not At Rarely Some Often Very iheardthat (Cavan) - Posts: 89 - 03/12/2014 08:13:05 1676187 Link 0 |
the is a burn out template from the ulster council you should contact them if you are concerned about players and get your players to fill it out iheardthat (Cavan) - Posts: 89 - 03/12/2014 08:30:14 1676192 Link 0 |