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Replying To wexfordwin: "As a matter of interest, how widespread is Hurling 365 and how active are primary schools and teachers in general in driving hurling?" Depends on the school and who it's principal, vice principal and teachers are in my limited experience.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 03/05/2024 18:09:06
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Replying To WEX98: "I see Paudi Foley is renting out the room in Sydney for 4 months (possibly longer) #clubchampo" We're in the same circles on Instagram anyway...
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Replying To Viking66: "4g pitch will happen this winter. No point waiting for someone else to do it. Exiled is 100% right about the need for it. Fair play to all the people who pushed for it. Its going to take a big collective effort to pay for it though.
The combined schools is complicated. Had it continued then Enniscorthy CBS wouldn't have played PP Senior A this year for example. And with the current admissions procedures in place for secondary schools why should Peters and GC be excluded from a combined schools team? Plenty to consider and practical problems to overcome.
The only 2 criticisms I'd have of his posts are that he always dwells on the worst outcomes for us before they even happen, and he can't help being happy/I told you so if they do happen." As someone who is the opposite of being exiled in Dublin albeit without the ties I had to laugh at Exiled posts about the lack of facilities and 4G Pitch in Wsxford. Dublin has a few of them but mostly owned by universities or in Abbottstown funded by Croke Park.
Not too sure about Combinined College being "the solution "as from what I hear the problems are more deep rooted in clubs. I was surprised at some of the stats on here last year about underage. That why I wonder about Hurling 365 and primary schools in general.
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Replying To Viking66: "4g pitch will happen this winter. No point waiting for someone else to do it. Exiled is 100% right about the need for it. Fair play to all the people who pushed for it. Its going to take a big collective effort to pay for it though.
The combined schools is complicated. Had it continued then Enniscorthy CBS wouldn't have played PP Senior A this year for example. And with the current admissions procedures in place for secondary schools why should Peters and GC be excluded from a combined schools team? Plenty to consider and practical problems to overcome.
The only 2 criticisms I'd have of his posts are that he always dwells on the worst outcomes for us before they even happen, and he can't help being happy/I told you so if they do happen." Exile can be a bit negative but he's an alright sort
logger (Wexford) - Posts: 297 - 03/05/2024 19:42:10
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Replying To Viking66: "4g pitch will happen this winter. No point waiting for someone else to do it. Exiled is 100% right about the need for it. Fair play to all the people who pushed for it. Its going to take a big collective effort to pay for it though.
The combined schools is complicated. Had it continued then Enniscorthy CBS wouldn't have played PP Senior A this year for example. And with the current admissions procedures in place for secondary schools why should Peters and GC be excluded from a combined schools team? Plenty to consider and practical problems to overcome.
The only 2 criticisms I'd have of his posts are that he always dwells on the worst outcomes for us before they even happen, and he can't help being happy/I told you so if they do happen." One 4G pitch is to happen this year, and I see from a Wexford GAA bulletin this afternoon that even that depends on grant funding. Exiled's call was for a whole raft of them.
But I don't mean it to look like I have it in for him as well. My main point is that it's all well and good to say we could do with A, B and C, but you also have to consider if they're realistic, and if so, what exactly is needed to make them happen.
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Replying To logger: "Exile can be a bit negative but he's an alright sort" Nothing wrong with Exiled, its the lads who go on a rampage after a defeat but go AWOL after a win who I couldn't tolerate.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 03/05/2024 22:15:17
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Replying To hunting: "Same team picked with liam Ryan on bench. Just team send in for the papers surely," 4 changes
WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 382 - 03/05/2024 22:18:05
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A big day tomorrow for wexford that could decide alot of things. Lose this and it could come down to the carlow match for relegation which would be a disaster but unfortunately last year it was hanging on by fingertips stuff so maybe wexford are closer to relegation then they are to winning leinster its safe to say the 2019 team in full flow is a long way ahead of this team plus 5 years is a long time.That team could break up after this year and being realistic it could be a tough few years because theres a big rebuild required. .What a difference a few months make where all the new lads were going well but now Supporters cant wait to get jippo and the older lads back.The walsh cup wont mean much tomor because teams were at different stages of preparation. Keith on his first year and wanted to get off on a positive note so went all out for the walsh cup and league where in hindsight no one was bothered with the league and its being devalued more every year. It doesnt matter what groups are next year teams havent intrest in the league.The heat has being ramped up in the championship and some of the lads that were going well have struggled.
Id be shocked if there isnt a performance tomor and definitely a few changes will be made. This is when wexford play their best hurling when they are struggling. I was reading that in something like14 round robin matches wexford have only won 4 and 1 of them was against laois and antrim. My god that is absolutely dreadful when you look at it like that. While i'am all for aiming high i think expectations need to be brought back a bit. This is huge game tomor hopefully the weather will be good
Slowandshortsighted (UK) - Posts: 36 - 03/05/2024 23:59:56
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Replying To Viking66: "4g pitch will happen this winter. No point waiting for someone else to do it. Exiled is 100% right about the need for it. Fair play to all the people who pushed for it. Its going to take a big collective effort to pay for it though.
The combined schools is complicated. Had it continued then Enniscorthy CBS wouldn't have played PP Senior A this year for example. And with the current admissions procedures in place for secondary schools why should Peters and GC be excluded from a combined schools team? Plenty to consider and practical problems to overcome.
The only 2 criticisms I'd have of his posts are that he always dwells on the worst outcomes for us before they even happen, and he can't help being happy/I told you so if they do happen." And they do happen more often than not. I don't think he actually enjoys it when they do happen, but he sure gets some solace on here to soothe his pain of Wexford losing.
It's always good to have an outlet!
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1944 - 04/05/2024 00:53:52
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Replying To Pikeman96: "One 4G pitch is to happen this year, and I see from a Wexford GAA bulletin this afternoon that even that depends on grant funding. Exiled's call was for a whole raft of them.
But I don't mean it to look like I have it in for him as well. My main point is that it's all well and good to say we could do with A, B and C, but you also have to consider if they're realistic, and if so, what exactly is needed to make them happen." Spot c on pikeman.
Apparently the cost of the proposed 4G pitch is around the 4 million mark. That was stated at the county board bulletin meeting a few days ago.
Not exactly chicken feed. Even with the grant it would still be a sizeable sum to raise.
Simple fact is we have to live within our means.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 301 - 04/05/2024 05:56:58
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If we were to be relegated ( God forbid) and its a real possibility it would be a real wake up call for all involved in Wexford hurling
Obviously that's a place we don't want to go.
The consequences of dropping down would be A - fall off in attendances.
B- players not committing. ( current panel members)
C - revenue from games significantly decreasing.
D- little or no media attention ie TV and national press.
E - lack of interest by the general public.
F- It would be necessary to tackle that scenario root and branch and do everything to get us back playing at the top level.
G- Difficult to attract players to play with the county team.
H- Other sports who are in direct competition with the GAA would benefit from our downfall.
I know the above is all doom and gloom but unfortunately we may find ourselves in that situation. Hopefully we can get the wins needed and get rid of the negativity.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 301 - 04/05/2024 07:02:48
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Replying To wexfordwin: "As someone who is the opposite of being exiled in Dublin albeit without the ties I had to laugh at Exiled posts about the lack of facilities and 4G Pitch in Wsxford. Dublin has a few of them but mostly owned by universities or in Abbottstown funded by Croke Park.
Not too sure about Combinined College being "the solution "as from what I hear the problems are more deep rooted in clubs. I was surprised at some of the stats on here last year about underage. That why I wonder about Hurling 365 and primary schools in general." Had a son involved with the combined colleges and thought it was great but the effort and coordination for management players and parents at the worst time of year requires buy in from everyone to make it successful.
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 489 - 04/05/2024 09:43:09
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Replying To foreveryoung: "And they do happen more often than not. I don't think he actually enjoys it when they do happen, but he sure gets some solace on here to soothe his pain of Wexford losing.
It's always good to have an outlet!" Just posts what he sees and adds a bit of realism to the conversation
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 489 - 04/05/2024 09:49:15
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Replying To Slowandshortsighted: "A big day tomorrow for wexford that could decide alot of things. Lose this and it could come down to the carlow match for relegation which would be a disaster but unfortunately last year it was hanging on by fingertips stuff so maybe wexford are closer to relegation then they are to winning leinster its safe to say the 2019 team in full flow is a long way ahead of this team plus 5 years is a long time.That team could break up after this year and being realistic it could be a tough few years because theres a big rebuild required. .What a difference a few months make where all the new lads were going well but now Supporters cant wait to get jippo and the older lads back.The walsh cup wont mean much tomor because teams were at different stages of preparation. Keith on his first year and wanted to get off on a positive note so went all out for the walsh cup and league where in hindsight no one was bothered with the league and its being devalued more every year. It doesnt matter what groups are next year teams havent intrest in the league.The heat has being ramped up in the championship and some of the lads that were going well have struggled.
Id be shocked if there isnt a performance tomor and definitely a few changes will be made. This is when wexford play their best hurling when they are struggling. I was reading that in something like14 round robin matches wexford have only won 4 and 1 of them was against laois and antrim. My god that is absolutely dreadful when you look at it like that. While i'am all for aiming high i think expectations need to be brought back a bit. This is huge game tomor hopefully the weather will be good" A post which accurately sums up the year so far. If we don't get a performance today we never will. We will have to be much better than everything we've seen so far. Will it be good enough time we'll know at 6.00. Hoping I'm wrong but Think we'll come up just short .
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 489 - 04/05/2024 09:57:44
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Replying To Magpie2: "If we were to be relegated ( God forbid) and its a real possibility it would be a real wake up call for all involved in Wexford hurling
Obviously that's a place we don't want to go.
The consequences of dropping down would be A - fall off in attendances.
B- players not committing. ( current panel members)
C - revenue from games significantly decreasing.
D- little or no media attention ie TV and national press.
E - lack of interest by the general public.
F- It would be necessary to tackle that scenario root and branch and do everything to get us back playing at the top level.
G- Difficult to attract players to play with the county team.
H- Other sports who are in direct competition with the GAA would benefit from our downfall.
I know the above is all doom and gloom but unfortunately we may find ourselves in that situation. Hopefully we can get the wins needed and get rid of the negativity." We should heed advice from a line in our other iconic GAA song. 'It's a privilege I was told, to wear the Purple and Gold'. Anyone who doesn't want to commit because there mightn't be the same profile (or personal fame) isn't the sort of character we'd need during these difficult times.
It could be a blessing in disguise. Call up lads that actually want to play for Wexford, even in the boondocks. Gives us more of an opportunity to blood the next generation with the pressure not as intense, and perhaps just as importantly cast off the established lads away from the spotlight.
Look at the Wexford footballers, rooted in Division Four for a while now, but they aren't struggling for committment. Brosnan is 37 and still soldiering on when we have talk of a raft of retirements should the hurlers go down. Yes there are a few lads travelling that conceivably could be part of the panel, but that's no different to the hurling. There does seem to be a good camarderie within, and a high turnover of new players. Perhaps playing at a realistic level (constant challengers for promotion) and having a tangible chance of silverware (Tailteann) is something worth committing to. Is there any difference between winning the TC and Joe McDonagh?
Revenue would be a big concern yes, and the support would be less fair-weather, but it would be the kick up the arse we need collectively as a county. I wouldn't worry too much about media coverage- they make a hames of promoting their biggest product anyway.
Look at Offaly, they have won more Leinsters and All-Ireland titles than Wexford in my lifetime (36 years old), and have a stronger club scene than us too, yet they haven't treated their relegation to the second tier as being 'too good to go down'. Their supporters haven't exactly walked away from them either (although having a talented crop of youngsters coming through is a help).
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Replying To Slowandshortsighted: "A big day tomorrow for wexford that could decide alot of things. Lose this and it could come down to the carlow match for relegation which would be a disaster but unfortunately last year it was hanging on by fingertips stuff so maybe wexford are closer to relegation then they are to winning leinster its safe to say the 2019 team in full flow is a long way ahead of this team plus 5 years is a long time.That team could break up after this year and being realistic it could be a tough few years because theres a big rebuild required. .What a difference a few months make where all the new lads were going well but now Supporters cant wait to get jippo and the older lads back.The walsh cup wont mean much tomor because teams were at different stages of preparation. Keith on his first year and wanted to get off on a positive note so went all out for the walsh cup and league where in hindsight no one was bothered with the league and its being devalued more every year. It doesnt matter what groups are next year teams havent intrest in the league.The heat has being ramped up in the championship and some of the lads that were going well have struggled.
Id be shocked if there isnt a performance tomor and definitely a few changes will be made. This is when wexford play their best hurling when they are struggling. I was reading that in something like14 round robin matches wexford have only won 4 and 1 of them was against laois and antrim. My god that is absolutely dreadful when you look at it like that. While i'am all for aiming high i think expectations need to be brought back a bit. This is huge game tomor hopefully the weather will be good" Sadly some of the lads who went really well in the League have been injured too. CBD and Patsy looked good for example
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 04/05/2024 10:30:11
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Replying To beano: "We should heed advice from a line in our other iconic GAA song. 'It's a privilege I was told, to wear the Purple and Gold'. Anyone who doesn't want to commit because there mightn't be the same profile (or personal fame) isn't the sort of character we'd need during these difficult times.
It could be a blessing in disguise. Call up lads that actually want to play for Wexford, even in the boondocks. Gives us more of an opportunity to blood the next generation with the pressure not as intense, and perhaps just as importantly cast off the established lads away from the spotlight.
Look at the Wexford footballers, rooted in Division Four for a while now, but they aren't struggling for committment. Brosnan is 37 and still soldiering on when we have talk of a raft of retirements should the hurlers go down. Yes there are a few lads travelling that conceivably could be part of the panel, but that's no different to the hurling. There does seem to be a good camarderie within, and a high turnover of new players. Perhaps playing at a realistic level (constant challengers for promotion) and having a tangible chance of silverware (Tailteann) is something worth committing to. Is there any difference between winning the TC and Joe McDonagh?
Revenue would be a big concern yes, and the support would be less fair-weather, but it would be the kick up the arse we need collectively as a county. I wouldn't worry too much about media coverage- they make a hames of promoting their biggest product anyway.
Look at Offaly, they have won more Leinsters and All-Ireland titles than Wexford in my lifetime (36 years old), and have a stronger club scene than us too, yet they haven't treated their relegation to the second tier as being 'too good to go down'. Their supporters haven't exactly walked away from them either (although having a talented crop of youngsters coming through is a help)." We are far from too good to go down. Any more than any of the other top tier counties. The Round Robin is a 5 game tournament. Whoever finishes bottom can have few complaints. They got what they deserved. And if that county happens to be us well we will just have to work harder to get back up.
Anyway that's all just conjecture. Hopefully we win today and that will give us the confidence to win the next two games. If we win all 3 we are guaranteed a Leinster final spot.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 04/05/2024 11:55:27
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Replying To beano: "We should heed advice from a line in our other iconic GAA song. 'It's a privilege I was told, to wear the Purple and Gold'. Anyone who doesn't want to commit because there mightn't be the same profile (or personal fame) isn't the sort of character we'd need during these difficult times.
It could be a blessing in disguise. Call up lads that actually want to play for Wexford, even in the boondocks. Gives us more of an opportunity to blood the next generation with the pressure not as intense, and perhaps just as importantly cast off the established lads away from the spotlight.
Look at the Wexford footballers, rooted in Division Four for a while now, but they aren't struggling for committment. Brosnan is 37 and still soldiering on when we have talk of a raft of retirements should the hurlers go down. Yes there are a few lads travelling that conceivably could be part of the panel, but that's no different to the hurling. There does seem to be a good camarderie within, and a high turnover of new players. Perhaps playing at a realistic level (constant challengers for promotion) and having a tangible chance of silverware (Tailteann) is something worth committing to. Is there any difference between winning the TC and Joe McDonagh?
Revenue would be a big concern yes, and the support would be less fair-weather, but it would be the kick up the arse we need collectively as a county. I wouldn't worry too much about media coverage- they make a hames of promoting their biggest product anyway.
Look at Offaly, they have won more Leinsters and All-Ireland titles than Wexford in my lifetime (36 years old), and have a stronger club scene than us too, yet they haven't treated their relegation to the second tier as being 'too good to go down'. Their supporters haven't exactly walked away from them either (although having a talented crop of youngsters coming through is a help)." We are far from too good to go down. Any more than any of the other top tier counties. The Round Robin is a 5 game tournament. Whoever finishes bottom can have few complaints. They got what they deserved. And if that county happens to be us well we will just have to work harder to get back up.
Anyway that's all just conjecture. Hopefully we win today and that will give us the confidence to win the next two games. If we win all 3 we are guaranteed a Leinster final spot.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12224 - 04/05/2024 11:55:38
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OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 72 - 04/05/2024 12:22:56
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Replying To Magpie2: "If we were to be relegated ( God forbid) and its a real possibility it would be a real wake up call for all involved in Wexford hurling
Obviously that's a place we don't want to go.
The consequences of dropping down would be A - fall off in attendances.
B- players not committing. ( current panel members)
C - revenue from games significantly decreasing.
D- little or no media attention ie TV and national press.
E - lack of interest by the general public.
F- It would be necessary to tackle that scenario root and branch and do everything to get us back playing at the top level.
G- Difficult to attract players to play with the county team.
H- Other sports who are in direct competition with the GAA would benefit from our downfall.
I know the above is all doom and gloom but unfortunately we may find ourselves in that situation. Hopefully we can get the wins needed and get rid of the negativity." We may not go down this year as I think we will beat Carlow for a start. Biggest concern is when the likes of O Hanlon and Chin step away and some others who have been central figures in team for over a decade. The problem is there dosent seem to be players coming through of there quality, hope I'm wrong but happens any team unfortunately who lose players like that. We may have to rebuild for a few years
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 174 - 04/05/2024 12:26:54
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