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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Pikeman96, can you show me the post where I said about a raft of 4G pitches? I said one in Wexford and it will pay for itself time and again because it means weather issues are mitigated a lot. I mentioned a raft of them nationwide when it was asked how to logistically play club championships nationwide.
Also, you and others say logistically combined colleges won't work but are you really saying in a GAA world where the county boards are able to pay for thousands for inter county managers, mindfulness coaches and a load of other nonsense we can't get 3-4 buses driven to Ferns a couple of times a week to train and a good coach to train them?
How is it working in Offaly, they are making it work?" I think things are slightly different in Offaly in that I don't think they have a team hurling in the colleges A championship so they use the combined colleges also as preparation for their county minor/u20 teams.
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In a short sentence this is how the table will look . If all the favourites win the remaining matches that includes kk beating wexford and there is no other surprises wexford and dublin will be on 5 point each so it will go down to score difference this is why if we get a run on carlow we need a big score difference. BUT you can be sure there will be alot of surprises in the leinster round Robin series before it finishes. So a big score against carlow is very important.
Jimbob96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 05/05/2024 16:35:12
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I see Dublin Minors beat Kilkenny today so we play Offaly away next week and if we win that then it's Dublin away in the Semi Final.
So we can get to a Leinster Final without having to beat Galway or Kilkenny in a knockout game. Great chance for these young men. And if they beat Offaly then there will be a back door into All Ireland Series.
Just imagine being from Kilkenny.. Coming bottom of a 4 team group. If we think we are in crisis imagine how their supporters see themselves. Yet we would take their hand off to be as competitive as them.
IMO other than Clare and Limerick every other County thinks they are in crisis.. We are doing loads right and only need to tweak / improve our structures a small bit to be as good as most everyone else.
And our U14s 15s and 16s footballers all did very well yesterday too.
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Replying To gannett83: "Well lads what is the story with this team i for one said we were heading for the Joe McDonagh.. I honestly don't know where that performance came from yesterday I knew we have it in us but just could not see it coming… our backs were superb though your Eoin Ryan did very well.. Liam Ryan brought a presence to our defence yesterday and I think all around him were so much calmer knowing he was there… I think on 2 occasions in first half we tried playing it from half back line and gave away score along with 1 more from a poor fanning puck out.. other than that the direct ball clearly works for us so why not do it more.. Rory o Connor is a joy to watch and I been saying it for years that his up there with top 5 forwards in Ireland.. chin and Mac immense again.. midfield worked well and is a good combination.. should not be thinking of anything else only Carlow in 2 weeks not about Points what way we can qualify etc.. hopefully d o keefe and cian molly can return plus Jacko to bolster squad again.. one final note does this team need a sports psychologist I think they do how can we only fight like this when we are on our backs??" We do have a sports psychologist.
Maybe it takes a while for the players to buy in to what he wants them to do, before and during games. Consistency is what we need most and if the psychologist can get that consistency he will have done a good job.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 301 - 05/05/2024 16:56:49
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Well there will be no negativity from me today. To remind people, I also didn't kick either team when they were down after match v us or v Antrim. I leave that for people who probably never held 3ft of ash in their life.
What we saw yesterday in the park, both on the pitch, on the line and in the stand has to become the norm rather than a one-off. Everybody knows what is potentially in these Wexford lads. Getting to that level every day has to become the norm because that is where top counties are hurling every week.
The team was picked to go at Galway and Wexford teams often play on the other teams terms, rather than going out to put teams on their arse and die for every ball. They did all that and more. The crowd were 100% behind the team throughout.
Rory O'Connor was left close to goal and fast ball went in. What do good forwards do with good fast ball? Score 1-6. What do good forwards do with slow, ponderous ball? Go out the field chasing it.
What you now need to do is back it up v Carlow and treat them as they did yesterday. Do that, and they have a great chance v Kilkenny. Don't do it, and the same scenario I warned of is still on re relegation.
But show that passion, that intensity, that drive again for the next 2 games and Wexford can go a long way." You are absolutely right. Give the ball in fast to the forwards in a scoring position. They might only win 50% of them but the other 50% they are wearing down the opposition backs. We are an example. Giving the ball into Dessie, Kiely and Bennett with Pendergast raiding behind them is hard to stop scoring.
!!! "Rory O'Connor was left close to goal and fast ball went in. What do good forwards do with good fast ball? Score 1-6. What do good forwards do with slow, ponderous ball? Go out the field chasing it." !!!
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2673 - 05/05/2024 17:13:57
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Replying To Paull: "I see Dublin Minors beat Kilkenny today so we play Offaly away next week and if we win that then it's Dublin away in the Semi Final.
So we can get to a Leinster Final without having to beat Galway or Kilkenny in a knockout game. Great chance for these young men. And if they beat Offaly then there will be a back door into All Ireland Series.
Just imagine being from Kilkenny.. Coming bottom of a 4 team group. If we think we are in crisis imagine how their supporters see themselves. Yet we would take their hand off to be as competitive as them.
IMO other than Clare and Limerick every other County thinks they are in crisis.. We are doing loads right and only need to tweak / improve our structures a small bit to be as good as most everyone else.
And our U14s 15s and 16s footballers all did very well yesterday too." Don't know who said it but someone said on here a few weeks ago that Wexford, Kilkenny, Galway, and Dublin were a long way clear of the rest at Leinster Minor Hurling level this year, let's see whether that's borne out next week
Offaly beat Meath by 3, Antrim by 6, Wicklow by 29 (Pretty much everyone hopped off them), Westmeath by 5, and Laois by 3
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 285 - 05/05/2024 17:26:24
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Replying To Paull: "I see Dublin Minors beat Kilkenny today so we play Offaly away next week and if we win that then it's Dublin away in the Semi Final.
So we can get to a Leinster Final without having to beat Galway or Kilkenny in a knockout game. Great chance for these young men. And if they beat Offaly then there will be a back door into All Ireland Series.
Just imagine being from Kilkenny.. Coming bottom of a 4 team group. If we think we are in crisis imagine how their supporters see themselves. Yet we would take their hand off to be as competitive as them.
IMO other than Clare and Limerick every other County thinks they are in crisis.. We are doing loads right and only need to tweak / improve our structures a small bit to be as good as most everyone else.
And our U14s 15s and 16s footballers all did very well yesterday too." "Just imagine being from Kilkenny.. Coming bottom of a 4 team group. If we think we are in crisis imagine how their supporters see themselves."
You obviously have a very vivid imagination. Minor hurling teams change a lot, from one year to the next. If you are going to judge the state of minor hurling in a county, you need to look at performances over several years. In the last 25 years, Kilkenny minors have played in 19 Leinster finals, winning 14 of them. I can only speak for myself, but I doubt many Kilkenny supporters are talking about a 'crisis' when it comes to minor hurling.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2486 - 05/05/2024 17:49:44
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: ""Just imagine being from Kilkenny.. Coming bottom of a 4 team group. If we think we are in crisis imagine how their supporters see themselves."
You obviously have a very vivid imagination. Minor hurling teams change a lot, from one year to the next. If you are going to judge the state of minor hurling in a county, you need to look at performances over several years. In the last 25 years, Kilkenny minors have played in 19 Leinster finals, winning 14 of them. I can only speak for myself, but I doubt many Kilkenny supporters are talking about a 'crisis' when it comes to minor hurling." My point is that every County including Kilkenny think they could be doing a whole lot better and I can also tell you that an awful lot of Kilkenny supporters and people involved in GAA in Kilkenny think they are not producing enough top players.
And coming bottom of a 4 team Round Robin Group losing to Wexford and Dublin will only add fuel to that fire rightly or wrongly.
Paull (Wexford) - Posts: 179 - 05/05/2024 18:29:34
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Replying To Jimbob96: "In a short sentence this is how the table will look . If all the favourites win the remaining matches that includes kk beating wexford and there is no other surprises wexford and dublin will be on 5 point each so it will go down to score difference this is why if we get a run on carlow we need a big score difference. BUT you can be sure there will be alot of surprises in the leinster round Robin series before it finishes. So a big score against carlow is very important." I think it's important to try and beat them 1st. Trying for goals that weren't on and building up score difference was one of the reasons we lost the game to Westmeath last year.
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Replying To Paull: "My point is that every County including Kilkenny think they could be doing a whole lot better and I can also tell you that an awful lot of Kilkenny supporters and people involved in GAA in Kilkenny think they are not producing enough top players.
And coming bottom of a 4 team Round Robin Group losing to Wexford and Dublin will only add fuel to that fire rightly or wrongly." Won one game well and lost 2 very close games. Not as bad as u make it sound
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Replying To Newyorkkat: "Won one game well and lost 2 very close games. Not as bad as u make it sound" You don't get my point. I don't think there are any issues with Kilkenny and would love us to be as strong as them at all age grades. But because they lost 2 from 3 it's very easy to jump on a negative bandwagon. Because we beat Galway their supporters think it's the worst Galway team for 30 years. Waterford supporters think their underage is miles behind every other top tier County.
The list goes on.
Paull (Wexford) - Posts: 179 - 05/05/2024 19:54:04
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Pikeman96, can you show me the post where I said about a raft of 4G pitches? I said one in Wexford and it will pay for itself time and again because it means weather issues are mitigated a lot. I mentioned a raft of them nationwide when it was asked how to logistically play club championships nationwide.
Also, you and others say logistically combined colleges won't work but are you really saying in a GAA world where the county boards are able to pay for thousands for inter county managers, mindfulness coaches and a load of other nonsense we can't get 3-4 buses driven to Ferns a couple of times a week to train and a good coach to train them?
How is it working in Offaly, they are making it work?" I don't care about the logistics but rather I am against combined teams as I believe that while there may be a short term lift, it puts off putting through the changes that really need to happen in order to allow the schools to stand on the own. Unlike clubs it's not as if schools do not have the population - they do, what they need to look at is why these kids are not either playing the game or not to the right level. With amalgamations the focus becomes winning and everyone loses sight of the reason they had to merge in the first place.
For what it's worth I do believe there are perhaps too many clubs that ultimately has a negative I.pact on development. So it's not that I am against combining teams just the purpose has to be part of a strategic plan and I cannot see how that works for the secondary schools
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Replying To Newyorkkat: "Won one game well and lost 2 very close games. Not as bad as u make it sound" I think the point he's making is some people just go over the top with their negativity on this forums, e.g some lads here were talking about a crisis in underage hurling in Wexford after losing to Dublin by 3 in minor 2 weeks ago, after the Seniors drew with Dublin someone here said outside of 3 players were a Joe Mcdonagh standard team.
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Yesterday was good for the heart but when we can produce performances like that it makes the one in Belfast even more frustrating. We got our match ups bang on in defence, every defender at the very worst broke even in their individual battle Jippo's presence alone was a game changer, Hearne and Richie cleaned Glennon and Monaghan, Chin on current form is 1 of the best players in the country and Rory can be too if can maintain the form of yesterday, Conor Mc was back to his best in the 1st half, I taught pre championship Cian Byrne might be year off it physically but he's showed up well in his 3 championship appearances so far, hopefully he'll learn from the red card, it was 100% deserved but the comment earlier that it was dirty and he let the team down was out of order, it was clumsy and naive wasn't malicious in my opinion. Atmosphere was electric 3 or 4 thousand less in attendance than the Dublin game but the place was rocking.
I said in a post during the week that I hoped the Westmeath game last year would be a watershed moment, we now have to make the Antrim game a watershed moment, Rossi's motivation for the Carlow game should be easy, approach the game like we did yesterday and we'll win, approach it like we did in Antrim we're in bother, bit premature to be talking about Leinster finals at the moment, putting a glass half empty hat on we're still not clear of Joe Mcdonagh relegation, approach the Carlow game in the right manner and we will be and we're in the fight going into round 5, interesting that 4 games will be played between now and our next game with Dublin v Antrim and Carlow v Kilkenny next Saturday while we have a Sunday throw in vs Carlow with Antrim v Galway and Dublin v Kilkenny the day prior, so we'll know alot more about possible permutations by the time the game comes around, honestly I had Galway's 2 games remaining chalked down for 4 points but if they don't get a kick could be vulnerable in Belfast, hopefully Antrim don't phone it in pre game like they did vs Kilkenny, interesting Kilkenny, Dublin, Antrim and Carlow all have to play 3 weeks on the spin with ourselves and Galway getting that hard slog done, Carlow for example have Kilkenny, ourselves and Antrim in that order so will they write off Kilkenny same as Antrim?
Minors was a strange game, created plenty of opportunities but Galway were far more clinical, their no. 13 Callanan was sensational and close to unmarkable, Galway 1st goal which opened up the game was a scandalous decision, after the 3 games my main concern would be the reliance on Sean O'Brien for scores who looks a fantastic prospect I must add.
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U20 game Wednesday against Dublin in Parnell park. Looking forward to it I think the win against against Galway will rub off them and give them a big boost
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Replying To Magpie2: "Seen a headline somewhere yesterday that Keith Rossiter was unhappy about some keyboard warriors. Some on here are always negative but most are well informed, honest and are passionate Wexford supporters.
We were all hugely disappointed with our first two games and we on this forum and elsewhere were right to be critical of the team.we were hardly going to say ," ah sure the lads played well we were beaten but don't worry.
Usually constructive critism is what's required.
It gets the players saying to themselves and their teammates " we can do better than this and let's go out next day and prove our critics wrong.
I believe that's what was thought and said in training during the week and look what happened.
So Keith, a little critism is really not such a bad thing." Magpie2, I think constructive criticism is good, however, what has been written on social media on different forums over the past week has been utterly disgusting and shameful, so I would imagine this is what is being referred to. These are all amateur sports people who have to get up on a Monday morning and do a days work, and the personal attacks on these players and management that have been online the past week is uncalled for and unnecessary . I wonder how many of these people making these nasty personal comments have hurled at inter county level or hurled at all for that matter, very few I would imagine. They have no idea of the commitment it takes to do this. As I said, I'm not referring to the constructive criticism that has been made, it's very much warranted and needed, but as for the other stuff, these people have no place in a sporting world.
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Replying To Wexforduser89: "U20 game Wednesday against Dublin in Parnell park. Looking forward to it I think the win against against Galway will rub off them and give them a big boost" Hope so too. They were very poor last week in a challenge game. They need to get a win to help with their confidence. They aren't bad players.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12227 - 06/05/2024 09:38:12
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Replying To Jimbob96: "In a short sentence this is how the table will look . If all the favourites win the remaining matches that includes kk beating wexford and there is no other surprises wexford and dublin will be on 5 point each so it will go down to score difference this is why if we get a run on carlow we need a big score difference. BUT you can be sure there will be alot of surprises in the leinster round Robin series before it finishes. So a big score against carlow is very important." If I were part of that Antrim set up now I'd be mad to get at Galway and Dublin now.
Equally Dublin will be wanting to kick Galway when they're down and they've a good record against them.
Looking at the head to head in the last few years nobody could write us off in nowlan park either.
There are still twists and turns to come.
All we can do is try to bring consistency and intensity to our remaining games. If we do that we've a chance. Anything less and we're still in trouble.
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Replying To Viking66: "Hope so too. They were very poor last week in a challenge game. They need to get a win to help with their confidence. They aren't bad players." Who did they play in challenge game and how did it go viking?
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Replying To wexfan09: "Magpie2, I think constructive criticism is good, however, what has been written on social media on different forums over the past week has been utterly disgusting and shameful, so I would imagine this is what is being referred to. These are all amateur sports people who have to get up on a Monday morning and do a days work, and the personal attacks on these players and management that have been online the past week is uncalled for and unnecessary . I wonder how many of these people making these nasty personal comments have hurled at inter county level or hurled at all for that matter, very few I would imagine. They have no idea of the commitment it takes to do this. As I said, I'm not referring to the constructive criticism that has been made, it's very much warranted and needed, but as for the other stuff, these people have no place in a sporting world." I don't think getting nasty or personal in comments is good but if you pay €25 for a ticket you are entitled to an opinion.
Requiring people to have hurled or hurled inter county or trained teams before they are allowed to post is just ridiculous.
Do we have to be elected to the Dail before we give out about politicians? Do we have to be qualified meteorologists before we give out about the weather?
Everyone here wants Wexford to do well and are never happier than when we see them win. But we also get frustrated when we see them turn in performances that are below par when we know they are capable of much more.
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